***DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN IMPEACHED***

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    edited December 2018
    2018
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Leon Panetta on CNN saying how it’s always been about “following the money,” and “connecting dots.” I just wish he had added, “from Russia with love and a PTape all the way to impeachment.”
    :lol: I think if I'd heard that my mind would have automatically turned to you and added that on.
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  • OnWis97
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    Jeff Flake perhaps the most appropriately named politician of all time, tends to be all talk. Looks like he’s going to go out with a little bit of a spine.  Any republican standing in the way of the bill to protect Mueller is a traitor.  Looking at you, Majority Leader.

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    OnWis97 said:
    Jeff Flake perhaps the most appropriately named politician of all time, tends to be all talk. Looks like he’s going to go out with a little bit of a spine.  Any republican standing in the way of the bill to protect Mueller is a traitor.  Looking at you, Majority Leader.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/419084-flake-mueller-bill-has-votes-to-pass-senate%3famp
    The establishment hates Team Trump Treason. McConnell is complicit and will never allow a vote. Republic be damned.
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  • The Juggler
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    I'm lazy.  Someone help me with this question.  Was it illegal for Donald Trump to be involved in or aware during his campaign of a building negotiation in Russia?   I'm just wondering what will be the item that causes Republicans to impeach.  That certainly won't.  Paying off some women won't.   I haven't heard anything yet that will make him be impeached.  Is it going to be perjury that does it?
    Mickeyrat posted a link that explains it pretty well but I think it’ll be perjury, obstruction of justice and conspiracy that will cause the senate to convict as it’ll be an election issue. Team Mueller has very intelligently listed the house and senate intelligence committees as what spurred Cohen’s recent plea deal. The integrity and honor of the senate will be on trial. Never mind the money laundering and tax evasion as a private citizen, candidate and potentially, President elect. There’s a reason we have a FICA. I believe Team Trump Treason violated it and have stated as such well before today.
    I think the breaking point will be when one (or multiple) members of his family are convicted or will be facing likely convictions and he pardons or attempts to pardon them. Clear obstruction there to even the most ardent of supporters. By that point ALL of the dirt will be out. Approval ratings will be even lower than they are now. The election will be right around the corner. The writing will be on the wall. It will be resignation instead of conviction after impeachment (which is happening, folks). Having the economy slow down a little earlier than anticipated will make it easier on the Republicans to urge him to step aside.

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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
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    I watched All the President's Men from start to finish for the first time the other night. I've always only caught bits and pieces of it. So well done.

    Parallels are so easy to spot...especially early on when people refused to believe it could all be true. 
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  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
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    The Juggler said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    I'm lazy.  Someone help me with this question.  Was it illegal for Donald Trump to be involved in or aware during his campaign of a building negotiation in Russia?   I'm just wondering what will be the item that causes Republicans to impeach.  That certainly won't.  Paying off some women won't.   I haven't heard anything yet that will make him be impeached.  Is it going to be perjury that does it?
    Mickeyrat posted a link that explains it pretty well but I think it’ll be perjury, obstruction of justice and conspiracy that will cause the senate to convict as it’ll be an election issue. Team Mueller has very intelligently listed the house and senate intelligence committees as what spurred Cohen’s recent plea deal. The integrity and honor of the senate will be on trial. Never mind the money laundering and tax evasion as a private citizen, candidate and potentially, President elect. There’s a reason we have a FICA. I believe Team Trump Treason violated it and have stated as such well before today.
    I think the breaking point will be when one (or multiple) members of his family are convicted or will be facing likely convictions and he pardons or attempts to pardon them. Clear obstruction there to even the most ardent of supporters. By that point ALL of the dirt will be out. Approval ratings will be even lower than they are now. The election will be right around the corner. The writing will be on the wall. It will be resignation instead of conviction after impeachment (which is happening, folks). Having the economy slow down a little earlier than anticipated will make it easier on the Republicans to urge him to step aside.

    #2019
    For the first time in this bizarre turn of events we call 'the last election',  I have a belief that he will not finish out his term.  I am a no for the P-tape viewing but I am a hell yes for reading the entire Mueller report. 

  • OnWis97
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    As I’ve been thinking the entire time, we didn’t have the right wing media when Nixon went down.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/01/opinion/sunday/robert-mueller-trump-manafort-corsi-report.html?fbclid=IwAR0p7BkWT41PiLVCkhuyNQrssTY8X2yylCAxs4tq0DPF_WOBrBnZCYddcPU
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    OnWis97 said:
    As I’ve been thinking the entire time, we didn’t have the right wing media when Nixon went down.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/01/opinion/sunday/robert-mueller-trump-manafort-corsi-report.html?fbclid=IwAR0p7BkWT41PiLVCkhuyNQrssTY8X2yylCAxs4tq0DPF_WOBrBnZCYddcPU
    And now we do, so?
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  • brianlux
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    edited December 2018
    It's well-nigh time to...

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  • my2hands
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    OnWis97 said:
    As I’ve been thinking the entire time, we didn’t have the right wing media when Nixon went down.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/01/opinion/sunday/robert-mueller-trump-manafort-corsi-report.html?fbclid=IwAR0p7BkWT41PiLVCkhuyNQrssTY8X2yylCAxs4tq0DPF_WOBrBnZCYddcPU
    So Trump should be impeached because Roger Stone knew wikileaks would be releasing John Podesta's emails? That is the jist of that opinion piece, i sure hope there is more than that
  • The Juggler
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    njnancy said:
    The Juggler said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    I'm lazy.  Someone help me with this question.  Was it illegal for Donald Trump to be involved in or aware during his campaign of a building negotiation in Russia?   I'm just wondering what will be the item that causes Republicans to impeach.  That certainly won't.  Paying off some women won't.   I haven't heard anything yet that will make him be impeached.  Is it going to be perjury that does it?
    Mickeyrat posted a link that explains it pretty well but I think it’ll be perjury, obstruction of justice and conspiracy that will cause the senate to convict as it’ll be an election issue. Team Mueller has very intelligently listed the house and senate intelligence committees as what spurred Cohen’s recent plea deal. The integrity and honor of the senate will be on trial. Never mind the money laundering and tax evasion as a private citizen, candidate and potentially, President elect. There’s a reason we have a FICA. I believe Team Trump Treason violated it and have stated as such well before today.
    I think the breaking point will be when one (or multiple) members of his family are convicted or will be facing likely convictions and he pardons or attempts to pardon them. Clear obstruction there to even the most ardent of supporters. By that point ALL of the dirt will be out. Approval ratings will be even lower than they are now. The election will be right around the corner. The writing will be on the wall. It will be resignation instead of conviction after impeachment (which is happening, folks). Having the economy slow down a little earlier than anticipated will make it easier on the Republicans to urge him to step aside.

    #2019
    For the first time in this bizarre turn of events we call 'the last election',  I have a belief that he will not finish out his term.  I am a no for the P-tape viewing but I am a hell yes for reading the entire Mueller report. 

    That is funny. My brother said the same thing to me the other night. Gonna be a wild year coming up....
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  • Kat
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    So how would everyone feel about it if the Mueller report showed evidence beyond a reasonable doubt about the kids and some evidence about puppetmaster himself and then a plea deal was made to not prosecute the kids if he resigns?
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • The Juggler
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    edited December 2018
    2019
    Kat said:
    So how would everyone feel about it if the Mueller report showed evidence beyond a reasonable doubt about the kids and some evidence about puppetmaster himself and then a plea deal was made to not prosecute the kids if he resigns?
    I'm all for it. That's actually what I am hoping for and think the odds for something like this are better than any other scenario of him not finishing his term. Cohen gave them 70 hours of testimony. Weiselberg is talking to them. Mueller has been digging around their business for a while now and that business has been corrupt for decades. And its essentially a.....family business. They're all fucked (well except Tiffany!).
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    Kat said:
    So how would everyone feel about it if the Mueller report showed evidence beyond a reasonable doubt about the kids and some evidence about puppetmaster himself and then a plea deal was made to not prosecute the kids if he resigns?
    Needs more guillotines
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Kat said:
    So how would everyone feel about it if the Mueller report showed evidence beyond a reasonable doubt about the kids and some evidence about puppetmaster himself and then a plea deal was made to not prosecute the kids if he resigns?
    It depends on the seriousness and level of the crimes committed. I think either way, Team Trump Treason is not in office after January 20th, 2021.
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  • dignin
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    Kat said:
    So how would everyone feel about it if the Mueller report showed evidence beyond a reasonable doubt about the kids and some evidence about puppetmaster himself and then a plea deal was made to not prosecute the kids if he resigns?
    I think they should all serve time if guilty. No deals.
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
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    I’d take that deal.  As long as Trump is out disgracefully, that’s a positive.
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  • Meltdown99
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    Kat said:
    So how would everyone feel about it if the Mueller report showed evidence beyond a reasonable doubt about the kids and some evidence about puppetmaster himself and then a plea deal was made to not prosecute the kids if he resigns?
    Why not find evidence of the crimes that family has committed and toss them all in jail?  I'm sick of wealthy people getting away with crimes...
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  • OnWis97
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    OnWis97 said:
    As I’ve been thinking the entire time, we didn’t have the right wing media when Nixon went down.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/01/opinion/sunday/robert-mueller-trump-manafort-corsi-report.html?fbclid=IwAR0p7BkWT41PiLVCkhuyNQrssTY8X2yylCAxs4tq0DPF_WOBrBnZCYddcPU
    So Trump should be impeached because Roger Stone knew wikileaks would be releasing John Podesta's emails? That is the jist of that opinion piece, i sure hope there is more than that
    My take is simply that Fox is successfully discrediting it and that will continue. It’s a big part of why I’m not on the edge of my seat waiting on Mueller.
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  • Meltdown99
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    And if the evidence shows they were traitors...then the DP should be in play.
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