Is America the greatest country in the world?

cincybearcat said:

brianlux said:

HFD is an idiot, one of my closest friends is a jerk, and AMT is a shithole. 

 

So 1) i said sound a like an idiot. And again I misread the room, seemed like a lighthearted barroom discussion about sports. HFD - I’m sorry. I wasn’t calling you an idiot for real and thought you would take it as joking talk amongst friends. I misjudged and I won’t do it again.

2) I guess you didn’t accept my apology as I should have stated “jerk statement” but we’ve been through that and you said you were ok, and apparently aren’t.

3) and yes AMT is becoming less and less enjoyable. Too many 1 sided discussions where people are berated if they think differently by groups of people to wear the points being made aren’t discussed anymore. And too many people being too sensative. I mistakenly thought that over the years several of us (though most are gone) have achieved a certain report. That’s my mistake. I think it’s likely that only 1 person left I can joke around with. So I’ll have to change how I interact or leave. And at this point I don’t want to leave. But I enjoyed this place a lot more when we could mess with each other without people taking things personally. I’ll just try and be more straightlaced. 

you simply cannot expect people to know when you are kidding and when you are serious when it is a direct statement without obvious sarcasm in the written form. it's isn't about being straightlaced. it's about being clear in your delivery. 

I can't speak for Brian, but from what I saw of that apology was actually more of you doubling down on your initial statement. you seemed to simply refuse to acknowledge the events as Brian laid them out (his friend was ignorant on horse racing, saw something in real time that disturbed them, decided to look it up while there and quietly showed it to him). 

I fall on different sides of discussions depending on what it is. what I have seen lately that has bothered me the most is people chiming in with trolling comments complaining about the discussion itself. complaining about someone being devil's advocate (which actually wasn't what I was doing at all) is the most recent one that I was involved in.

but whatever. I take breaks from this place all the time, because yeah, sometimes AMT does become a bit too much to take sometimes. when I notice myself chiming in making stupid comments that don't further the discussion, which I admittedly have done in the past (just ask @Thirty Bills Unpaid about the death penalty thread), I take a break. 

HughFreakingDillon said:

cincybearcat said:

brianlux said:

HFD is an idiot, one of my closest friends is a jerk, and AMT is a shithole. 

 

So 1) i said sound a like an idiot. And again I misread the room, seemed like a lighthearted barroom discussion about sports. HFD - I’m sorry. I wasn’t calling you an idiot for real and thought you would take it as joking talk amongst friends. I misjudged and I won’t do it again.

2) I guess you didn’t accept my apology as I should have stated “jerk statement” but we’ve been through that and you said you were ok, and apparently aren’t.

3) and yes AMT is becoming less and less enjoyable. Too many 1 sided discussions where people are berated if they think differently by groups of people to wear the points being made aren’t discussed anymore. And too many people being too sensative. I mistakenly thought that over the years several of us (though most are gone) have achieved a certain report. That’s my mistake. I think it’s likely that only 1 person left I can joke around with. So I’ll have to change how I interact or leave. And at this point I don’t want to leave. But I enjoyed this place a lot more when we could mess with each other without people taking things personally. I’ll just try and be more straightlaced. 

you simply cannot expect people to know when you are kidding and when you are serious when it is a direct statement without obvious sarcasm in the written form. it's about being straightlaced. it's about being clear in your delivery. 

I can't speak for Brian, but from what I saw of that apology was actually more of you doubling down on your initial statement. you seemed to simply refuse to acknowledge the events as Brian laid them out (his friend was ignorant on horse racing, saw something in real time that disturbed them, decided to look it up while there and quietly showed it to him). 

I fall on different sides of discussions depending on what it is. what I have seen lately that has bothered me the most is people chiming in with trolling comments complaining about the discussion itself. complaining about someone being devil's advocate (which actually wasn't what I was doing at all) is the most recent one that I was involved in.

but whatever. I take breaks from this place all the time, because yeah, sometimes AMT does become a bit too much to take sometimes. when I notice myself chiming in making stupid comments that don't further the discussion, which I admittedly have done in the past (just ask @Thirty Bills Unpaid about the death penalty thread), I take a break. 

“Stupid comments”...are you calling me stupid? /s, , joking. 

brianlux said:

cincybearcat said:

brianlux said:

HFD is an idiot, one of my closest friends is a jerk, and AMT is a shithole. 

 

So 1) i said sound a like an idiot. And again I misread the room, seemed like a lighthearted barroom discussion about sports. HFD - I’m sorry. I wasn’t calling you an idiot for real and thought you would take it as joking talk amongst friends. I misjudged and I won’t do it again.

2) I guess you didn’t accept my apology as I should have stated “jerk statement” but we’ve been through that and you said you were ok, and apparently aren’t.

3) and yes AMT is becoming less and less enjoyable. Too many 1 sided discussions where people are berated if they think differently by groups of people to wear the points being made aren’t discussed anymore. And too many people being too sensative. I mistakenly thought that over the years several of us (though most are gone) have achieved a certain report. That’s my mistake. I think it’s likely that only 1 person left I can joke around with. So I’ll have to change how I interact or leave. And at this point I don’t want to leave. But I enjoyed this place a lot more when we could mess with each other without people taking things personally. I’ll just try and be more straightlaced. 

I too was kidding but it didn't come across as such so, sorry.

Forums are weird in that it's all just writing on a screen.  We should all meet up some day and have a good drunken brawl and then get all sentimental and mushy.   

Meeting up would be great, I'll make the beer and hippie lettuce run while the brawl is underway...lol.  May I suggest we meet in a quiet mountain town...

cincybearcat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

cincybearcat said:

brianlux said:

HFD is an idiot, one of my closest friends is a jerk, and AMT is a shithole. 

 

So 1) i said sound a like an idiot. And again I misread the room, seemed like a lighthearted barroom discussion about sports. HFD - I’m sorry. I wasn’t calling you an idiot for real and thought you would take it as joking talk amongst friends. I misjudged and I won’t do it again.

2) I guess you didn’t accept my apology as I should have stated “jerk statement” but we’ve been through that and you said you were ok, and apparently aren’t.

3) and yes AMT is becoming less and less enjoyable. Too many 1 sided discussions where people are berated if they think differently by groups of people to wear the points being made aren’t discussed anymore. And too many people being too sensative. I mistakenly thought that over the years several of us (though most are gone) have achieved a certain report. That’s my mistake. I think it’s likely that only 1 person left I can joke around with. So I’ll have to change how I interact or leave. And at this point I don’t want to leave. But I enjoyed this place a lot more when we could mess with each other without people taking things personally. I’ll just try and be more straightlaced. 

you simply cannot expect people to know when you are kidding and when you are serious when it is a direct statement without obvious sarcasm in the written form. it's about being straightlaced. it's about being clear in your delivery. 

I can't speak for Brian, but from what I saw of that apology was actually more of you doubling down on your initial statement. you seemed to simply refuse to acknowledge the events as Brian laid them out (his friend was ignorant on horse racing, saw something in real time that disturbed them, decided to look it up while there and quietly showed it to him). 

I fall on different sides of discussions depending on what it is. what I have seen lately that has bothered me the most is people chiming in with trolling comments complaining about the discussion itself. complaining about someone being devil's advocate (which actually wasn't what I was doing at all) is the most recent one that I was involved in.

but whatever. I take breaks from this place all the time, because yeah, sometimes AMT does become a bit too much to take sometimes. when I notice myself chiming in making stupid comments that don't further the discussion, which I admittedly have done in the past (just ask @Thirty Bills Unpaid about the death penalty thread), I take a break. 

“Stupid comments”...are you calling me stupid? /s, , joking. 

well were you serious about telling me about how I'm "wrong on most accounts"?

HughFreakingDillon said:

cincybearcat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

cincybearcat said:

brianlux said:

HFD is an idiot, one of my closest friends is a jerk, and AMT is a shithole. 

 

So 1) i said sound a like an idiot. And again I misread the room, seemed like a lighthearted barroom discussion about sports. HFD - I’m sorry. I wasn’t calling you an idiot for real and thought you would take it as joking talk amongst friends. I misjudged and I won’t do it again.

2) I guess you didn’t accept my apology as I should have stated “jerk statement” but we’ve been through that and you said you were ok, and apparently aren’t.

3) and yes AMT is becoming less and less enjoyable. Too many 1 sided discussions where people are berated if they think differently by groups of people to wear the points being made aren’t discussed anymore. And too many people being too sensative. I mistakenly thought that over the years several of us (though most are gone) have achieved a certain report. That’s my mistake. I think it’s likely that only 1 person left I can joke around with. So I’ll have to change how I interact or leave. And at this point I don’t want to leave. But I enjoyed this place a lot more when we could mess with each other without people taking things personally. I’ll just try and be more straightlaced. 

you simply cannot expect people to know when you are kidding and when you are serious when it is a direct statement without obvious sarcasm in the written form. it's about being straightlaced. it's about being clear in your delivery. 

I can't speak for Brian, but from what I saw of that apology was actually more of you doubling down on your initial statement. you seemed to simply refuse to acknowledge the events as Brian laid them out (his friend was ignorant on horse racing, saw something in real time that disturbed them, decided to look it up while there and quietly showed it to him). 

I fall on different sides of discussions depending on what it is. what I have seen lately that has bothered me the most is people chiming in with trolling comments complaining about the discussion itself. complaining about someone being devil's advocate (which actually wasn't what I was doing at all) is the most recent one that I was involved in.

but whatever. I take breaks from this place all the time, because yeah, sometimes AMT does become a bit too much to take sometimes. when I notice myself chiming in making stupid comments that don't further the discussion, which I admittedly have done in the past (just ask @Thirty Bills Unpaid about the death penalty thread), I take a break. 

“Stupid comments”...are you calling me stupid? /s, , joking. 

well were you serious about telling me about how I'm "wrong on most accounts"?

Ugh seriously dude? When discussion American football vs Canadian football?  If you want, let’s go. Otherwise I already apologized and ready to move on. 

HughFreakingDillon said:

cincybearcat said:

brianlux said:

HFD is an idiot, one of my closest friends is a jerk, and AMT is a shithole. 

 

So 1) i said sound a like an idiot. And again I misread the room, seemed like a lighthearted barroom discussion about sports. HFD - I’m sorry. I wasn’t calling you an idiot for real and thought you would take it as joking talk amongst friends. I misjudged and I won’t do it again.

2) I guess you didn’t accept my apology as I should have stated “jerk statement” but we’ve been through that and you said you were ok, and apparently aren’t.

3) and yes AMT is becoming less and less enjoyable. Too many 1 sided discussions where people are berated if they think differently by groups of people to wear the points being made aren’t discussed anymore. And too many people being too sensative. I mistakenly thought that over the years several of us (though most are gone) have achieved a certain report. That’s my mistake. I think it’s likely that only 1 person left I can joke around with. So I’ll have to change how I interact or leave. And at this point I don’t want to leave. But I enjoyed this place a lot more when we could mess with each other without people taking things personally. I’ll just try and be more straightlaced. 

you simply cannot expect people to know when you are kidding and when you are serious when it is a direct statement without obvious sarcasm in the written form. it's isn't about being straightlaced. it's about being clear in your delivery. 

I can't speak for Brian, but from what I saw of that apology was actually more of you doubling down on your initial statement. you seemed to simply refuse to acknowledge the events as Brian laid them out (his friend was ignorant on horse racing, saw something in real time that disturbed them, decided to look it up while there and quietly showed it to him). 

I fall on different sides of discussions depending on what it is. what I have seen lately that has bothered me the most is people chiming in with trolling comments complaining about the discussion itself. complaining about someone being devil's advocate (which actually wasn't what I was doing at all) is the most recent one that I was involved in.

but whatever. I take breaks from this place all the time, because yeah, sometimes AMT does become a bit too much to take sometimes. when I notice myself chiming in making stupid comments that don't further the discussion, which I admittedly have done in the past (just ask @Thirty Bills Unpaid about the death penalty thread), I take a break. 

All good, Hugh. There's been moments, but it will always will be good regardless of those moments. I know you're one of the good guys.