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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,944
    edited April 2019
    mcgruff10 said:
    so if some of us are grossly exaggerating the dirtiness of shoe tread, at the same time as underestimating how gross someone's feet are, would you be ok with someone walking/driving around your neighbourhood, stopping for gas and going to the washroom there, and then coming into your house and walking around with those same bare feet?
    Who cares?  Do you guys lick or eat off the floor? If the floor gets dirty I bust out my vacuum or swiffer and clean it up. 
    Exactly. It's a floor, not a table.... although either way, I clean them.
    What are the no shoes no matter what people's thoughts on pets on the tables and counters?
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • mcgruff10 said:
    so if some of us are grossly exaggerating the dirtiness of shoe tread, at the same time as underestimating how gross someone's feet are, would you be ok with someone walking/driving around your neighbourhood, stopping for gas and going to the washroom there, and then coming into your house and walking around with those same bare feet?
    Who cares?  Do you guys lick or eat off the floor? If the floor gets dirty I bust out my vacuum or swiffer and clean it up. 
    I don't know about you, but I prefer to not have neighbourhood animal fecal matter in my house. 
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  • PJ_Soul said:
    so if some of us are grossly exaggerating the dirtiness of shoe tread, at the same time as underestimating how gross someone's feet are, would you be ok with someone walking/driving around your neighbourhood, stopping for gas and going to the washroom there, and then coming into your house and walking around with those same bare feet?
    I don't know if I'd want someone who refuses to ever wear shoes over at my house in any case, lol.
    that wasn't the point. 
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,944
    PJ_Soul said:
    so if some of us are grossly exaggerating the dirtiness of shoe tread, at the same time as underestimating how gross someone's feet are, would you be ok with someone walking/driving around your neighbourhood, stopping for gas and going to the washroom there, and then coming into your house and walking around with those same bare feet?
    I don't know if I'd want someone who refuses to ever wear shoes over at my house in any case, lol.
    that wasn't the point. 
    I know.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,476
    mcgruff10 said:
    so if some of us are grossly exaggerating the dirtiness of shoe tread, at the same time as underestimating how gross someone's feet are, would you be ok with someone walking/driving around your neighbourhood, stopping for gas and going to the washroom there, and then coming into your house and walking around with those same bare feet?
    Who cares?  Do you guys lick or eat off the floor? If the floor gets dirty I bust out my vacuum or swiffer and clean it up. 
    I don't know about you, but I prefer to not have neighbourhood animal fecal matter in my house. 
    Give me your address and I ll send you a doormat for your birthday. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,944
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    so if some of us are grossly exaggerating the dirtiness of shoe tread, at the same time as underestimating how gross someone's feet are, would you be ok with someone walking/driving around your neighbourhood, stopping for gas and going to the washroom there, and then coming into your house and walking around with those same bare feet?
    Who cares?  Do you guys lick or eat off the floor? If the floor gets dirty I bust out my vacuum or swiffer and clean it up. 
    I don't know about you, but I prefer to not have neighbourhood animal fecal matter in my house. 
    Give me your address and I ll send you a doormat for your birthday. 
    :lol:
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    so if some of us are grossly exaggerating the dirtiness of shoe tread, at the same time as underestimating how gross someone's feet are, would you be ok with someone walking/driving around your neighbourhood, stopping for gas and going to the washroom there, and then coming into your house and walking around with those same bare feet?
    Who cares?  Do you guys lick or eat off the floor? If the floor gets dirty I bust out my vacuum or swiffer and clean it up. 
    I don't know about you, but I prefer to not have neighbourhood animal fecal matter in my house. 
    Give me your address and I ll send you a doormat for your birthday. 
    I'm good thanks. 
    new album "Cigarettes" out Spring 2025!

    www.headstonesband.com




  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Posts: 16,433
    so if some of us are grossly exaggerating the dirtiness of shoe tread, at the same time as underestimating how gross someone's feet are, would you be ok with someone walking/driving around your neighbourhood, stopping for gas and going to the washroom there, and then coming into your house and walking around with those same bare feet?
    Sure, why not? It's not like I'm licking their feet or eating off the floor they walk on. And I clean my floors regularly so I don't see a big deal.
  • PJ_Soul said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    so if some of us are grossly exaggerating the dirtiness of shoe tread, at the same time as underestimating how gross someone's feet are, would you be ok with someone walking/driving around your neighbourhood, stopping for gas and going to the washroom there, and then coming into your house and walking around with those same bare feet?
    Who cares?  Do you guys lick or eat off the floor? If the floor gets dirty I bust out my vacuum or swiffer and clean it up. 
    Exactly. It's a floor, not a table.... although either way, I clean them.
    What are the no shoes no matter what people's thoughts on pets on the tables and counters?
    it's not "no matter what". as outlined, there are exceptions. 

    cats are a lot cleaner than humans are. 
    new album "Cigarettes" out Spring 2025!

    www.headstonesband.com




  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,944
    PJ_Soul said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    so if some of us are grossly exaggerating the dirtiness of shoe tread, at the same time as underestimating how gross someone's feet are, would you be ok with someone walking/driving around your neighbourhood, stopping for gas and going to the washroom there, and then coming into your house and walking around with those same bare feet?
    Who cares?  Do you guys lick or eat off the floor? If the floor gets dirty I bust out my vacuum or swiffer and clean it up. 
    Exactly. It's a floor, not a table.... although either way, I clean them.
    What are the no shoes no matter what people's thoughts on pets on the tables and counters?
    it's not "no matter what". as outlined, there are exceptions. 

    cats are a lot cleaner than humans are. 
    Not if your big concern is animal fecal matter in your house.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • so if some of us are grossly exaggerating the dirtiness of shoe tread, at the same time as underestimating how gross someone's feet are, would you be ok with someone walking/driving around your neighbourhood, stopping for gas and going to the washroom there, and then coming into your house and walking around with those same bare feet?
    Sure, why not? It's not like I'm licking their feet or eating off the floor they walk on. And I clean my floors regularly so I don't see a big deal.
    I don't know. I just get annoyed when I step on a tiny pebble (kinda like stepping on a lego) or dirt that has been brought in by my kids who may forget to take their footwear off right away. 

    and then that gets tracked onto the furniture inevitably. people put their feet up on the couch, on the coffee table, etc. I prefer not to have my nice couch wrecked by ground in dirt. 
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    www.headstonesband.com




  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,944
    edited April 2019
    I think most people are not okay with shoes on the furniture, but dang, those must be some dirt-caked shoes if they are leaving all that dirt all over the place. I think you should take Scruffy up on his offer!
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,906
    edited April 2019
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    so if some of us are grossly exaggerating the dirtiness of shoe tread, at the same time as underestimating how gross someone's feet are, would you be ok with someone walking/driving around your neighbourhood, stopping for gas and going to the washroom there, and then coming into your house and walking around with those same bare feet?
    Who cares?  Do you guys lick or eat off the floor? If the floor gets dirty I bust out my vacuum or swiffer and clean it up. 
    Exactly. It's a floor, not a table.... although either way, I clean them.
    What are the no shoes no matter what people's thoughts on pets on the tables and counters?
    it's not "no matter what". as outlined, there are exceptions. 

    cats are a lot cleaner than humans are. 
    Not if your big concern is animal fecal matter in your house.
    it's not my "big concern".

    they constantly clean themselves. and there's really no way to prevent a cat from going wherever the fuck it wants to. a cat is rude and does what it wants. humans have the option of being considerate about not tracking their dirt everywhere they go. 

    and I don't have pets. 
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  • PJ_Soul said:
    I think most people are not okay with shoes on the furniture, but dang, those must be some dirt-caked shoes if they are leaving all that dirt all over the place. I think you should take Scruffy up on his offer!
    you misunderstood. I'm saying that if there is dirt in my house from someone's shoes, then me walking around my house barefoot or in socks will track that dirt elsewhere; the couch, my bed, etc. 
    new album "Cigarettes" out Spring 2025!

    www.headstonesband.com




  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,476
    PJ_Soul said:
    I think most people are not okay with shoes on the furniture, but dang, those must be some dirt-caked shoes if they are leaving all that dirt all over the place. I think you should take Scruffy up on his offer!
    you misunderstood. I'm saying that if there is dirt in my house from someone's shoes, then me walking around my house barefoot or in socks will track that dirt elsewhere; the couch, my bed, etc. 
    you wear socks to bed?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,944
    edited April 2019
    PJ_Soul said:
    I think most people are not okay with shoes on the furniture, but dang, those must be some dirt-caked shoes if they are leaving all that dirt all over the place. I think you should take Scruffy up on his offer!
    you misunderstood. I'm saying that if there is dirt in my house from someone's shoes, then me walking around my house barefoot or in socks will track that dirt elsewhere; the couch, my bed, etc. 
    I understood.
    .... I think I am taking this conversation a lot less seriously than you are. ;)
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Posts: 16,433
    I'm looking at the bottom of my shoes now.  Aside from being visibly discolored from normal wear, there is no caked-on dirt or loose debris that could be tracked anywhere.  Now I'm sure I could get a high-powered magnifying glass out and be proven differently, but when we're talking microscopic scale then we've reached the point of insignificance.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,906
    edited April 2019
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I think most people are not okay with shoes on the furniture, but dang, those must be some dirt-caked shoes if they are leaving all that dirt all over the place. I think you should take Scruffy up on his offer!
    you misunderstood. I'm saying that if there is dirt in my house from someone's shoes, then me walking around my house barefoot or in socks will track that dirt elsewhere; the couch, my bed, etc. 
    I understood.
    .... I think I am taking this conversation a lot less seriously than you are. ;)
    you obviously misunderstood if you thought I was talking about shoes on the furniture. and I stated pretty clearly earlier how silly this discussion is. it's a fun and interesting conversation, as I have honestly never heard of people tramping around someone's house with their shoes on. 
    Post edited by HughFreakingDillon on
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  • mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I think most people are not okay with shoes on the furniture, but dang, those must be some dirt-caked shoes if they are leaving all that dirt all over the place. I think you should take Scruffy up on his offer!
    you misunderstood. I'm saying that if there is dirt in my house from someone's shoes, then me walking around my house barefoot or in socks will track that dirt elsewhere; the couch, my bed, etc. 
    you wear socks to bed?
    nope. 
    new album "Cigarettes" out Spring 2025!

    www.headstonesband.com




  • I'm looking at the bottom of my shoes now.  Aside from being visibly discolored from normal wear, there is no caked-on dirt or loose debris that could be tracked anywhere.  Now I'm sure I could get a high-powered magnifying glass out and be proven differently, but when we're talking microscopic scale then we've reached the point of insignificance.
    my porch mats get quite dirty and need to be cleaned often. 
    new album "Cigarettes" out Spring 2025!

    www.headstonesband.com




  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    mcgruff10 said:
    so if some of us are grossly exaggerating the dirtiness of shoe tread, at the same time as underestimating how gross someone's feet are, would you be ok with someone walking/driving around your neighbourhood, stopping for gas and going to the washroom there, and then coming into your house and walking around with those same bare feet?
    Who cares?  Do you guys lick or eat off the floor? If the floor gets dirty I bust out my vacuum or swiffer and clean it up. 
    My kids do all the time, kids are gross.

    This debate is great.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,435
    I live in a neighborhood that is new...under construction.  Lots of dirt all around.  If you don't take your shoes off at my door, you will get dirt on the hardwood or even worse wherever their is carpet.  So everyone is removing shoes.

    I personally don't understand the extremes here.  It's just up to whoever's house it is.  That's it.
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  • dignin said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    so if some of us are grossly exaggerating the dirtiness of shoe tread, at the same time as underestimating how gross someone's feet are, would you be ok with someone walking/driving around your neighbourhood, stopping for gas and going to the washroom there, and then coming into your house and walking around with those same bare feet?
    Who cares?  Do you guys lick or eat off the floor? If the floor gets dirty I bust out my vacuum or swiffer and clean it up. 
    My kids do all the time, kids are gross.

    This debate is great.
    LOL. 5 SECOND RULE! 
    new album "Cigarettes" out Spring 2025!

    www.headstonesband.com




  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,906
    edited April 2019
    I live in a neighborhood that is new...under construction.  Lots of dirt all around.  If you don't take your shoes off at my door, you will get dirt on the hardwood or even worse wherever their is carpet.  So everyone is removing shoes.

    I personally don't understand the extremes here.  It's just up to whoever's house it is.  That's it.
    Not extreme to explain cultural norms where I am and what I've observed elsewhere. 

    people can do what they wish as long as they aren't being a dick to whomever they are visiting, as you said. 
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    www.headstonesband.com




  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,493
    I'm looking at the bottom of my shoes now.  Aside from being visibly discolored from normal wear, there is no caked-on dirt or loose debris that could be tracked anywhere.  Now I'm sure I could get a high-powered magnifying glass out and be proven differently, but when we're talking microscopic scale then we've reached the point of insignificance.
    well I still shower even though I dont see any caked on dirt or loose debris on me. Stupid me. 

    Maybe its different across the pond. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,476
    dignin said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    so if some of us are grossly exaggerating the dirtiness of shoe tread, at the same time as underestimating how gross someone's feet are, would you be ok with someone walking/driving around your neighbourhood, stopping for gas and going to the washroom there, and then coming into your house and walking around with those same bare feet?
    Who cares?  Do you guys lick or eat off the floor? If the floor gets dirty I bust out my vacuum or swiffer and clean it up. 
    My kids do all the time, kids are gross.

    This debate is great.
    Agreed, kids are gross. The other day My five year old decided to pissin the garbage can instead of the toilet. Good times.   
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    dignin said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    so if some of us are grossly exaggerating the dirtiness of shoe tread, at the same time as underestimating how gross someone's feet are, would you be ok with someone walking/driving around your neighbourhood, stopping for gas and going to the washroom there, and then coming into your house and walking around with those same bare feet?
    Who cares?  Do you guys lick or eat off the floor? If the floor gets dirty I bust out my vacuum or swiffer and clean it up. 
    My kids do all the time, kids are gross.

    This debate is great.
    LOL. 5 SECOND RULE! 
    As a kid it was 10 seconds, as an adult...5.
  • I'm looking at the bottom of my shoes now.  Aside from being visibly discolored from normal wear, there is no caked-on dirt or loose debris that could be tracked anywhere.  Now I'm sure I could get a high-powered magnifying glass out and be proven differently, but when we're talking microscopic scale then we've reached the point of insignificance.
    well I still shower even though I dont see any caked on dirt or loose debris on me. Stupid me. 

    Maybe its different across the pond. 
    LOL
    new album "Cigarettes" out Spring 2025!

    www.headstonesband.com




  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,493
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    so if some of us are grossly exaggerating the dirtiness of shoe tread, at the same time as underestimating how gross someone's feet are, would you be ok with someone walking/driving around your neighbourhood, stopping for gas and going to the washroom there, and then coming into your house and walking around with those same bare feet?
    Who cares?  Do you guys lick or eat off the floor? If the floor gets dirty I bust out my vacuum or swiffer and clean it up. 
    My kids do all the time, kids are gross.

    This debate is great.
    Agreed, kids are gross. The other day My five year old decided to pissin the garbage can instead of the toilet. Good times.   
    Swedish kids never do that
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    so if some of us are grossly exaggerating the dirtiness of shoe tread, at the same time as underestimating how gross someone's feet are, would you be ok with someone walking/driving around your neighbourhood, stopping for gas and going to the washroom there, and then coming into your house and walking around with those same bare feet?
    Who cares?  Do you guys lick or eat off the floor? If the floor gets dirty I bust out my vacuum or swiffer and clean it up. 
    My kids do all the time, kids are gross.

    This debate is great.
    Agreed, kids are gross. The other day My five year old decided to pissin the garbage can instead of the toilet. Good times.   
    glad I have girls. LOL
    new album "Cigarettes" out Spring 2025!

    www.headstonesband.com




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