Donald Trump

njnancy said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

The Juggler said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

remember folks, Obama actually attempted to do this very same thing to Fox News, but backed down after outcry from other news orgs. I don't recall much, if any, outrage from liberals/democrats when that happened. 

You sure about that?  This is a quote from Major Garrett from two weeks ago..

"Now, they never tried to pull my pass, but they had this sort of arms-length relationship to Fox, and tried to demonize it on a daily basis. So that's another part of American history and journalism in the White House press corps I think that at least should be noted at this moment," he said. 

Garrett's comments come amid increased tensions between CNN and the Trump administration. 

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/417100-it-should-be-noted-obama-white-house-demonized-fox-news-on-daily-basis-says-cbs

it wasn't official like pulling a press pass, but there were email leaks that the admin attempted to deliberately omit fox news from the press pool, which the WH at the time said was just a mistake. 

The Obama administration made a deliberate effort to exclude Fox News from a press pool during the height of its war with the network, newly released documents show.

At the time, in the fall of 2009, the administration dismissed the matter as simply a mistake. “There was no plot to exclude Fox News, and they had the same interview that their competitors did. Much ado about absolutely nothing,” the Treasury Department said in a statement. But internal e-mails obtained by the watchdog group Judicial Watch show that the attempted exclusion from an interview with federal pay czar Ken Feinberg was part of a deliberate strategy. The attempt failed when the other networks refused to go along unless Fox was included.

On Oct. 22, 2009, Dag Vega, the White House director of broadcast media, wrote to a Treasury official that “we’d prefer if you skip Fox please.” Deputy White House communications director Jennifer Psaki wrote the official, Jenni LeCompte, and other colleagues about a report by Fox anchor Bret Baier on the network’s exclusion that “brett baier just did a stupid piece on it -- but he is a lunatic.”

 

yes, I am aware. trump also did an interview with 60 minutes quite recently. 

Well, the President this morning said that there needs to be 'decorum' in the White House when asked about the decision about due process in favor of CNN (1st & 5th Amendment decision will not be decided till next week). It should be refreshing to see decorum in all areas of the White House now. I would hope that would preclude the President from calling reporters 'disgusting human beings'. 

Yes, Obama hated Fox News. They were also pushing the conspiracy theory that he was not born in the United States, along with blatant racist references. He was able to withstand that without declaring the entire news organization as the enemy of the people. And neither he nor the press secretaries exhibited hostility towards the press. 

I know you are aware of this and were just pointing out that Fox News has been the bane of Democratic administrations and have been the target of those administrations jabs and the desire to not include them in a gaggle.  (This has happened several times to several news organizations in the current administrations - exclusion from audio only gaggles). 

Interesting to add, Fox News signed on as a friend of the court, siding with CNN/Acosta in the lawsuit. It isn't as much about Acosta or CNN as a White House believing, now or in the future, that they have the ability to stifle and restrict people who challenge them. And Trump calls on Acosta all the time. So this was just a play to the base. It's an important lawsuit to set a precedent for all journalists from all media outlets for not only this administration, but for future administrations also. 

Does anyone remember Sam Donaldson? Now that was a dogged journalist. Never had his press pass pulled. 

njnancy said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

The Juggler said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

remember folks, Obama actually attempted to do this very same thing to Fox News, but backed down after outcry from other news orgs. I don't recall much, if any, outrage from liberals/democrats when that happened. 

You sure about that?  This is a quote from Major Garrett from two weeks ago..

"Now, they never tried to pull my pass, but they had this sort of arms-length relationship to Fox, and tried to demonize it on a daily basis. So that's another part of American history and journalism in the White House press corps I think that at least should be noted at this moment," he said. 

Garrett's comments come amid increased tensions between CNN and the Trump administration. 

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/417100-it-should-be-noted-obama-white-house-demonized-fox-news-on-daily-basis-says-cbs

it wasn't official like pulling a press pass, but there were email leaks that the admin attempted to deliberately omit fox news from the press pool, which the WH at the time said was just a mistake. 

The Obama administration made a deliberate effort to exclude Fox News from a press pool during the height of its war with the network, newly released documents show.

At the time, in the fall of 2009, the administration dismissed the matter as simply a mistake. “There was no plot to exclude Fox News, and they had the same interview that their competitors did. Much ado about absolutely nothing,” the Treasury Department said in a statement. But internal e-mails obtained by the watchdog group Judicial Watch show that the attempted exclusion from an interview with federal pay czar Ken Feinberg was part of a deliberate strategy. The attempt failed when the other networks refused to go along unless Fox was included.

On Oct. 22, 2009, Dag Vega, the White House director of broadcast media, wrote to a Treasury official that “we’d prefer if you skip Fox please.” Deputy White House communications director Jennifer Psaki wrote the official, Jenni LeCompte, and other colleagues about a report by Fox anchor Bret Baier on the network’s exclusion that “brett baier just did a stupid piece on it -- but he is a lunatic.”

 

yes, I am aware. trump also did an interview with 60 minutes quite recently. 

Well, the President this morning said that there needs to be 'decorum' in the White House when asked about the decision about due process in favor of CNN (1st & 5th Amendment decision will not be decided till next week). It should be refreshing to see decorum in all areas of the White House now. I would hope that would preclude the President from calling reporters 'disgusting human beings'. 

Yes, Obama hated Fox News. They were also pushing the conspiracy theory that he was not born in the United States, along with blatant racist references. He was able to withstand that without declaring the entire news organization as the enemy of the people. And neither he nor the press secretaries exhibited hostility towards the press. 

I know you are aware of this and were just pointing out that Fox News has been the bane of Democratic administrations and have been the target of those administrations jabs and the desire to not include them in a gaggle.  (This has happened several times to several news organizations in the current administrations - exclusion from audio only gaggles). 

Interesting to add, Fox News signed on as a friend of the court, siding with CNN/Acosta in the lawsuit. It isn't as much about Acosta or CNN as a White House believing, now or in the future, that they have the ability to stifle and restrict people who challenge them. And Trump calls on Acosta all the time. So this was just a play to the base. It's an important lawsuit to set a precedent for all journalists from all media outlets for not only this administration, but for future administrations also. 

Does anyone remember Sam Donaldson? Now that was a dogged journalist. Never had his press pass pulled. 

Bentleyspop said:

Freedom of the press 
First amendment rights

Another win for the constitution 

Judge orders White House to return Jim Acosta's press pass

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/16/media/cnn-trump-lawsuit-hearing/index.html

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJPOWER said:

Bentleyspop said:

Freedom of the press 
First amendment rights

Another win for the constitution 

Judge orders White House to return Jim Acosta's press pass

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/16/media/cnn-trump-lawsuit-hearing/index.html

Wait, wait, wait, don’t you mean the “cawnsta tooshin”

You can really only say it that way whistling through a big gap between buckteeth with a piece of hay dangling from your lips (thumbs tucked in your overalls).

mrussel1 said:

Is Trump even bothering to try to gaslight us at this point?  A coal lobbyist as EPA administrator.  What a friggin' joke.  Another member of the Legion of Doom apparently..

https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/417159-trump-to-nominate-acting-epa-chief-wheeler-for-senate-confirmation

stuckinline said:

Without explaining himself, the President said the floors of the forests need to be taken care of and again talked about time needed to be spent on raking and cleaning.
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-california-wildfires/index.html

my2hands said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/08/opinion/midterms-working-class-labor.html