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Ok so Bolton acknowledges Russian meddling in our elections but it had no effect ok that’s good enough no lol this country has become one fucking ugly joke ...jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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You got ittbergs said:
I read it as, they are no more of a threat than they were yesterday or 10 years ago so don't let fear mongering play a part in how safe you feel after reading that story. It served it's purpose; caused fear in older white voters who will want to see increased spending and focus on this deadly gang that is running rampant in NJ.my2hands said:
My question was genuine. The post infers that they aren't a big deal because they target immigrants. Nit taking a position one way or another, I just thought the statement if the post was odd, specifically from that poster.tbergs said:
C'mon man. You know that's not what he's saying. You accuse H2M of being a bully and then proceed to start being the anti-message bully.my2hands said:
So because they mostly target undocumented immigrants we shouldn't worry about them? You're safe, so fuck it who cares?Bentleyspop said:
Up until about 12 years ago I lived in a DC suburb neighborhood that bordered a neighborhood infested with MS13. I was at no time in danger of being assaulted by them. And I never lived in fear of them. I was not their target. Their target then, and now, is mostly illegals and the local businesses associated with them.mcgruff10 said:
Yeah I am not a fan of any of the gangs you listed. The article was about how ms-13 is increasing their numbers and territory in Jersey; when I see a bloods and crips article I ll be sure to post.The Juggler said:
Are you afraid of the Bloods and the Crips too? What about Hell's Angels? Why do you think Trump singles out only this one kind of gang when there are many others like them?mcgruff10 said:
From the article I read their numbers are going up in nj.mrussel1 said:
Exactly..I know they've been in DC for years.Go Beavers said:
If you’re claiming he was right, what was he right about. No one is saying ms 13 doesn’t exist. trump over stated the gang trying to weave it into a manipulative message about immigration policy. The actual number of ms 13 gang members has been the same for many years and was originally born in the US prison system.mcgruff10 said:9
Ok whatever, I am not understanding your point. He emphasized a long time ago and everyone on the forum downplayed it; turns out he was right.Spiritual_Chaos said:
No, it was "not bad in mY book".mcgruff10 said:
Hey I call them like I see them, he was right.Spiritual_Chaos said:
"Not bad in Your book" , right?mcgruff10 said:Headline from my local newspaper (main area of distribution is two counties with approx one million people.) Seems like trump wasn’t wrong on this one:
by the way, it was “my neck of the woods.” When you want to use my own words use them right.
More of my neighbors were hurt by the DC sniper than have ever been hurt by MS13.
They are as big a threat to the average american as is antifa and the proud boys.
The point is that, why must only this group all of a sudden be a target? We all know the answer so quit acting like it means we don't care about their violence.
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Most corrupt incompetent pathological liar sexual liar racist pig ever ! It’s embarrassing that any sane American can support this vile human ..Meltdown99 said:jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
Welcome to just one wee little aspect of Team Trump Treason’s ‘ Murica. Don’t let your wives, sisters, daughters, girlfriends fly alone.
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Trump declares himself a nationalist... well we all knew he acted like one, but now the mask is off. https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/412649-trump-you-know-what-i-am-im-a-nationalist
Reminds me of the quote by DeGaulle. More befitting words are rarely spoken
"Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first."0 -
mrussel1 said:Trump declares himself a nationalist... well we all knew he acted like one, but now the mask is off. https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/412649-trump-you-know-what-i-am-im-a-nationalist
Reminds me of the quote by DeGaulle. More befitting words are rarely spoken
"Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first."
And it means nothing. The simpletons were yuckin' it up and lovin' them some nationalism (most of them confused by any word with more than two syllables).
Nothing Trump has done has changed the mindset of his 'base'. The next election is going to come down to voter turnout. I refuse to believe there are that many idiots in America to continue with this goofball as their president. I believe that Republicans with half a brain or an ounce of morals will not vote for their team (this wouldn't be a majority). I believe that women with any integrity would use their vote to express their disgust. I believe minorities that have been marginalized will use their vote. And I believe every single Democrat will count as well.
The midterm will reveal a lot.
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Most corrupt incompetent pathological liar sexual liar racist pig ever ! It’s embarrassing that any sane American can support this vile human ..Meltdown99 said:njnancy said:
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My home country should be my priority. Oh no, I’m not a globalist either.mrussel1 said:Trump declares himself a nationalist... well we all knew he acted like one, but now the mask is off. https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/412649-trump-you-know-what-i-am-im-a-nationalist
Reminds me of the quote by DeGaulle. More befitting words are rarely spoken
"Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first."0 -
I think it's abundantly clear that Trump is a nationalist using DeGaulle's definition... that is unless the country in question offers Trump or his family a clear financial benefit. Then inherent prejudices can be overlooked.unsung said:
My home country should be my priority. Oh no, I’m not a globalist either.mrussel1 said:Trump declares himself a nationalist... well we all knew he acted like one, but now the mask is off. https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/412649-trump-you-know-what-i-am-im-a-nationalist
Reminds me of the quote by DeGaulle. More befitting words are rarely spoken
"Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first."0 -
Great info. Thank you.tbergs said:
Ok, I don't think any of us are experts on the exact number of gangs in our states unless you work in LE so I wouldn't think you would know for sure how big of an impact they or any other gang have in your specific city, but you specifically said Trump was right and that it was downplayed. It wasn't downplayed that MS-13 is a bad gang, what got downplayed was it being used as the reason for a wall and his whole "bad hombres" talk. Yes, any MS-13 member who has illegally entered this country is a problem, but making it sound like thousands of them are pouring across the border on a regular basis so we need to build a wall is a lie and being used as a fear mongering tactic.mcgruff10 said:
Yeah I am not a fan of any of the gangs you listed. The article was about how ms-13 is increasing their numbers and territory in Jersey; when I see a bloods and crips article I ll be sure to post.The Juggler said:
Are you afraid of the Bloods and the Crips too? What about Hell's Angels? Why do you think Trump singles out only this one kind of gang when there are many others like them?mcgruff10 said:
From the article I read their numbers are going up in nj.mrussel1 said:
Exactly..I know they've been in DC for years.Go Beavers said:
If you’re claiming he was right, what was he right about. No one is saying ms 13 doesn’t exist. trump over stated the gang trying to weave it into a manipulative message about immigration policy. The actual number of ms 13 gang members has been the same for many years and was originally born in the US prison system.mcgruff10 said:9
Ok whatever, I am not understanding your point. He emphasized a long time ago and everyone on the forum downplayed it; turns out he was right.Spiritual_Chaos said:
No, it was "not bad in mY book".mcgruff10 said:
Hey I call them like I see them, he was right.Spiritual_Chaos said:
"Not bad in Your book" , right?mcgruff10 said:Headline from my local newspaper (main area of distribution is two counties with approx one million people.) Seems like trump wasn’t wrong on this one:
by the way, it was “my neck of the woods.” When you want to use my own words use them right.
That's great that they ran a story on MS-13, have you researched the gang activity of your area to see how much of a threat they are as opposed to other gangs? For the most part all gangs are bad, but I would be wondering a bit more about why all of a sudden this story is getting press a few weeks before an election in a state that has an upstart Republican candidate looking to knock off the incumbent democrat mired in some corruption scandals.
Here is what the data on gangs in NJ said in 2010:
https://www.njsp.org/info/pdf/gangs_in_nj_2010.pdf
I could not find anything newer than that, but this article had more current information and was more straight forward.
https://www.nj.com/essex/index.ssf/2018/08/how_many_ms-13_members_are_in_us_nj.html
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unsung said:
Too bad so many of those darlings on the right have taken to suing those they disagree with. Not even claiming hate speech, mind you; just things they don't want said.
Jason Miller, former Trump communications adviser, is suing the journalists who reported on the court filings in his custody battle. As the article says, he is "unlikely to prevail", as it is generally accepted that journalists are allowed to report on court proceedings, but that hasn't stopped him.
Jordan Peterson, too, has attempted to sue a university and threatened to sue a journalist who called his work misogynistic. Snowflake much?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/22/opinion/free-speech-metoo-lawsuits-snowflakes.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
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Jason Miller....yet another conservative family values hypocrite. That custody case stems from an affair he had, outside of his marriage, with another Trump media person during the '16 campaign. These people are all terribleoftenreading said:unsung said:
Too bad so many of those darlings on the right have taken to suing those they disagree with. Not even claiming hate speech, mind you; just things they don't want said.
Jason Miller, former Trump communications adviser, is suing the journalists who reported on the court filings in his custody battle. As the article says, he is "unlikely to prevail", as it is generally accepted that journalists are allowed to report on court proceedings, but that hasn't stopped him.
Jordan Peterson, too, has attempted to sue a university and threatened to sue a journalist who called his work misogynistic. Snowflake much?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/22/opinion/free-speech-metoo-lawsuits-snowflakes.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepagewww.myspace.com0 -
unsung said:
My home country should be my priority. Oh no, I’m not a globalist either.mrussel1 said:Trump declares himself a nationalist... well we all knew he acted like one, but now the mask is off. https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/412649-trump-you-know-what-i-am-im-a-nationalist
Reminds me of the quote by DeGaulle. More befitting words are rarely spoken
"Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first."
Your home country is not your priority. You have proven yourself to be self-centered and give two shits about your country. You only care about self. But to your point - why stop at country?
My self should be my priority.
My home should be my priority.
My hometown should be my priority.
My state should be my priority.
My country should be my priority.
My continent should be my priority.
My hemisphere should be my priority.
My globe should be my priority.
My planet is my home.
Preservation of the planet is preservation of self.
But you can't see past the nose on your face, can you?
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sums it up nicelyCM189191 said:unsung said:
My home country should be my priority. Oh no, I’m not a globalist either.mrussel1 said:Trump declares himself a nationalist... well we all knew he acted like one, but now the mask is off. https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/412649-trump-you-know-what-i-am-im-a-nationalist
Reminds me of the quote by DeGaulle. More befitting words are rarely spoken
"Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first."
Your home country is not your priority. You have proven yourself to be self-centered and give two shits about your country. You only care about self. But to your point - why stop at country?
My self should be my priority.
My home should be my priority.
My hometown should be my priority.
My state should be my priority.
My country should be my priority.
My continent should be my priority.
My hemisphere should be my priority.
My globe should be my priority.
My planet is my home.
Preservation of the planet is preservation of self.
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Not only that but he impregnated his girlfriend and then gave her a drug in a smoothie to induce an abortion, which she had and almost died from complications. Nice guy that Jason Miller. Real defender of life. Proud repub and Team Trump Treason supporter. Oh, and he met his girlfriend at a strip club. Incel? Couldn't he just have gotten a divorce like Junior Mints?The Juggler said:
Jason Miller....yet another conservative family values hypocrite. That custody case stems from an affair he had, outside of his marriage, with another Trump media person during the '16 campaign. These people are all terribleoftenreading said:unsung said:
Too bad so many of those darlings on the right have taken to suing those they disagree with. Not even claiming hate speech, mind you; just things they don't want said.
Jason Miller, former Trump communications adviser, is suing the journalists who reported on the court filings in his custody battle. As the article says, he is "unlikely to prevail", as it is generally accepted that journalists are allowed to report on court proceedings, but that hasn't stopped him.
Jordan Peterson, too, has attempted to sue a university and threatened to sue a journalist who called his work misogynistic. Snowflake much?
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There was a group of "nationalists" that formed in Germany in the late 1920s.mrussel1 said:
I think it's abundantly clear that Trump is a nationalist using DeGaulle's definition... that is unless the country in question offers Trump or his family a clear financial benefit. Then inherent prejudices can be overlooked.unsung said:
My home country should be my priority. Oh no, I’m not a globalist either.mrussel1 said:Trump declares himself a nationalist... well we all knew he acted like one, but now the mask is off. https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/412649-trump-you-know-what-i-am-im-a-nationalist
Reminds me of the quote by DeGaulle. More befitting words are rarely spoken
"Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first."0 -
Wow.oftenreading said:unsung said:
Too bad so many of those darlings on the right have taken to suing those they disagree with. Not even claiming hate speech, mind you; just things they don't want said.
Jason Miller, former Trump communications adviser, is suing the journalists who reported on the court filings in his custody battle. As the article says, he is "unlikely to prevail", as it is generally accepted that journalists are allowed to report on court proceedings, but that hasn't stopped him.
Jordan Peterson, too, has attempted to sue a university and threatened to sue a journalist who called his work misogynistic. Snowflake much?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/22/opinion/free-speech-metoo-lawsuits-snowflakes.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
What a hunk of shit.
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The Juggler said:Great info. Thank you.
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