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Not using a lot of discretion.mcgruff10 said:
The poem was actually added to the statue to try to get donations.cincybearcat said:France gave us that statue to set us up for this immigration problem. Damn French
So if Democrats aren’t for open borders why the apprehension for a wall? Why so down on ice when they help deport illegal citizens?"My brain's a good brain!"0 -
Yes I know. But that’s not as funnymcgruff10 said:
The poem was actually added to the statue to try to get donations.cincybearcat said:France gave us that statue to set us up for this immigration problem. Damn French
So if Democrats aren’t for open borders why the apprehension for a wall? Why so down on ice when they help deport illegal citizens?hippiemom = goodness0 -
Because the wall is not the most effective way to stop illegal crossings. You could use more advanced technology, drones, and other methods to stop crossings. More importantly, apply resources and criminal penalties against BUSINESSES THAT HIRE THEM. If there are no under the table jobs, they will go back and stop coming. There's a reason immigrants come here illegally, because they can get work.mcgruff10 said:
How would putting up the other 2/3 not be effective to slowing down or stopping illegal immigration?mrussel1 said:
Because the wall isn't effective (there's already a third of the border with a wall), it's expensive, and the symbolism is awful. It's a gimmick for Trump, just more marketing.mcgruff10 said:
The poem was actually added to the statue to try to get donations.cincybearcat said:France gave us that statue to set us up for this immigration problem. Damn French
So if Democrats aren’t for open borders why the apprehension for a wall? Why so down on ice when they help deport illegal citizens?
I'd ask you to read this article from the Cato Institute, and published in Reason magazine. These are not liberal publications. Cato is conservative and Reason is the authority in true Libertarian thought (not psycho objectivism). It's a compelling and detailed argument about the wasteful "wall" argument.
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njnancy said:
No one is calling for open borders. That is a talking point. There should be immigration reform, it is badly needed and overdue. We need to know who is coming into the country, how many, from where and steps for citizenship or worker visas. But there is no outcry over the Russian influx of women who fly into Florida and have their babies here so that they are US citizens, or the people from European countries who come in on work and school visas and overstay and just blend in. The outcry is over the brown people 'pouring into the country' on the Southern border. The vast majority of those people are seeking asylum from horrific conditions. Just like my grandparents did.bootlegger10 said:Liberals don't understand that their push for open borders paved the way for Trump. It wasn't abortion. It wasn't taxes. It wasn't war mongering. Liberals can have it all if they supported a secured border and the laws in place. The Dems can then win presidency back and Congress and then actually change laws if they don't like them.
Are we the country that has a Statue of Liberty that says 'Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.
That is what it says on the Statue of Liberty and that is how most of us got here - no matter how many generations we go back. Is that no longer the values of America when the scary brown people from the Middle East or Central America are running away from death and violence. We don't lift our lamp to them? But my Irish grandparents were welcomed? Doesn't seem to make any sense to me. There are bad people in every ethnic group. But every person in this country is an immigrant and was welcomed into this country. Only the Native Americans can say that they truly belong here and look at how they are treated.
America is an idea and if we become a nation that no longer cares about those who are yearning for freedom, then we are no longer America. That dream is dead.
Immigration laws are needed and there is no call for open borders - I don't even know what that means. But we are becoming a country who has forgotten our purpose and Americans who were born here are forgetting that they are immigrants, just like the people who are running from danger. Why don't we use some of the money that we just gave to the ultra rich to help fix the problems in Central America instead of denigrating those people. Why don't we use a tiny portion of our military budget to solve the problems of these countries that have become so unsafe that people will walk 2000 miles.
I do not want open borders but I do want to welcome the tempest tossed into our great country.
I don't like that our VISA enforcement control is so lax. Other 1st world countries emphatically enforce their VISA periods without uproar. I do not support people flying here just to have kids.I don't think the Irish were welcomed with open arms back in the 1800's. Unless the movie Gangs of New York lied to me. Kidding on GONY.
Per the Pew Research Center 77% of illegal immigrants are from Hispanic countries. Asia was 14%, Europe was 5%, and Middle East/Africa was 4%. So if you are against illegal immigration in 2018 where is the majority of your energy going to be focused? By default it is the southern border. You say it is because they are anti-Hispanic, but the only way to test your theory is to see what the reaction would be if there were 500 cruise ships coming from Norway with 500,000 Norwegians ready to enter the country without authorization. I would suspect that Conservatives would require the ships to turn around.
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If you’re claiming he was right, what was he right about. No one is saying ms 13 doesn’t exist. trump over stated the gang trying to weave it into a manipulative message about immigration policy. The actual number of ms 13 gang members has been the same for many years and was originally born in the US prison system.mcgruff10 said:
Ok whatever, I am not understanding your point. He emphasized a long time ago and everyone on the forum downplayed it; turns out he was right.Spiritual_Chaos said:
No, it was "not bad in mY book".mcgruff10 said:
Hey I call them like I see them, he was right.Spiritual_Chaos said:
"Not bad in Your book" , right?mcgruff10 said:Headline from my local newspaper (main area of distribution is two counties with approx one million people.) Seems like trump wasn’t wrong on this one:
by the way, it was “my neck of the woods.” When you want to use my own words use them right.0 -
My grandparents came through Ellis Island in the 1920 or 30's so the majority of hate for the Irish was gone. By welcomed, I meant that they were allowed to become citizens of this country and raise a family. There has always been prejudice and mistrust of the 'new' wave of immigrants; I just don't happen to have those feelings. Doesn't make me better or worse than anyone, I just don't understand the hate some people have for immigrants, especially those who are seeking asylum. That's all.bootlegger10 said:njnancy said:
No one is calling for open borders. That is a talking point. There should be immigration reform, it is badly needed and overdue. We need to know who is coming into the country, how many, from where and steps for citizenship or worker visas. But there is no outcry over the Russian influx of women who fly into Florida and have their babies here so that they are US citizens, or the people from European countries who come in on work and school visas and overstay and just blend in. The outcry is over the brown people 'pouring into the country' on the Southern border. The vast majority of those people are seeking asylum from horrific conditions. Just like my grandparents did.bootlegger10 said:Liberals don't understand that their push for open borders paved the way for Trump. It wasn't abortion. It wasn't taxes. It wasn't war mongering. Liberals can have it all if they supported a secured border and the laws in place. The Dems can then win presidency back and Congress and then actually change laws if they don't like them.
Are we the country that has a Statue of Liberty that says 'Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.
That is what it says on the Statue of Liberty and that is how most of us got here - no matter how many generations we go back. Is that no longer the values of America when the scary brown people from the Middle East or Central America are running away from death and violence. We don't lift our lamp to them? But my Irish grandparents were welcomed? Doesn't seem to make any sense to me. There are bad people in every ethnic group. But every person in this country is an immigrant and was welcomed into this country. Only the Native Americans can say that they truly belong here and look at how they are treated.
America is an idea and if we become a nation that no longer cares about those who are yearning for freedom, then we are no longer America. That dream is dead.
Immigration laws are needed and there is no call for open borders - I don't even know what that means. But we are becoming a country who has forgotten our purpose and Americans who were born here are forgetting that they are immigrants, just like the people who are running from danger. Why don't we use some of the money that we just gave to the ultra rich to help fix the problems in Central America instead of denigrating those people. Why don't we use a tiny portion of our military budget to solve the problems of these countries that have become so unsafe that people will walk 2000 miles.
I do not want open borders but I do want to welcome the tempest tossed into our great country.
I don't like that our VISA enforcement control is so lax. Other 1st world countries emphatically enforce their VISA periods without uproar. I do not support people flying here just to have kids.I don't think the Irish were welcomed with open arms back in the 1800's. Unless the movie Gangs of New York lied to me. Kidding on GONY.
Per the Pew Research Center 77% of illegal immigrants are from Hispanic countries. Asia was 14%, Europe was 5%, and Middle East/Africa was 4%. So if you are against illegal immigration in 2018 where is the majority of your energy going to be focused? By default it is the southern border. You say it is because they are anti-Hispanic, but the only way to test your theory is to see what the reaction would be if there were 500 cruise ships coming from Norway with 500,000 Norwegians ready to enter the country without authorization. I would suspect that Conservatives would require the ships to turn around.
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As you rightly point out, there has always been prejudice in this country against the immigrants. First it was the Catholics, the Irish in the 19th century, Italians at the turn of the century, and then the slavs. The nativist movement always springs to life during waves of immigration. It's the Hispanics turn this time.njnancy said:
My grandparents came through Ellis Island in the 1920 or 30's so the majority of hate for the Irish was gone. By welcomed, I meant that they were allowed to become citizens of this country and raise a family. There has always been prejudice and mistrust of the 'new' wave of immigrants; I just don't happen to have those feelings. Doesn't make me better or worse than anyone, I just don't understand the hate some people have for immigrants, especially those who are seeking asylum. That's all.bootlegger10 said:njnancy said:
No one is calling for open borders. That is a talking point. There should be immigration reform, it is badly needed and overdue. We need to know who is coming into the country, how many, from where and steps for citizenship or worker visas. But there is no outcry over the Russian influx of women who fly into Florida and have their babies here so that they are US citizens, or the people from European countries who come in on work and school visas and overstay and just blend in. The outcry is over the brown people 'pouring into the country' on the Southern border. The vast majority of those people are seeking asylum from horrific conditions. Just like my grandparents did.bootlegger10 said:Liberals don't understand that their push for open borders paved the way for Trump. It wasn't abortion. It wasn't taxes. It wasn't war mongering. Liberals can have it all if they supported a secured border and the laws in place. The Dems can then win presidency back and Congress and then actually change laws if they don't like them.
Are we the country that has a Statue of Liberty that says 'Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.
That is what it says on the Statue of Liberty and that is how most of us got here - no matter how many generations we go back. Is that no longer the values of America when the scary brown people from the Middle East or Central America are running away from death and violence. We don't lift our lamp to them? But my Irish grandparents were welcomed? Doesn't seem to make any sense to me. There are bad people in every ethnic group. But every person in this country is an immigrant and was welcomed into this country. Only the Native Americans can say that they truly belong here and look at how they are treated.
America is an idea and if we become a nation that no longer cares about those who are yearning for freedom, then we are no longer America. That dream is dead.
Immigration laws are needed and there is no call for open borders - I don't even know what that means. But we are becoming a country who has forgotten our purpose and Americans who were born here are forgetting that they are immigrants, just like the people who are running from danger. Why don't we use some of the money that we just gave to the ultra rich to help fix the problems in Central America instead of denigrating those people. Why don't we use a tiny portion of our military budget to solve the problems of these countries that have become so unsafe that people will walk 2000 miles.
I do not want open borders but I do want to welcome the tempest tossed into our great country.
I don't like that our VISA enforcement control is so lax. Other 1st world countries emphatically enforce their VISA periods without uproar. I do not support people flying here just to have kids.I don't think the Irish were welcomed with open arms back in the 1800's. Unless the movie Gangs of New York lied to me. Kidding on GONY.
Per the Pew Research Center 77% of illegal immigrants are from Hispanic countries. Asia was 14%, Europe was 5%, and Middle East/Africa was 4%. So if you are against illegal immigration in 2018 where is the majority of your energy going to be focused? By default it is the southern border. You say it is because they are anti-Hispanic, but the only way to test your theory is to see what the reaction would be if there were 500 cruise ships coming from Norway with 500,000 Norwegians ready to enter the country without authorization. I would suspect that Conservatives would require the ships to turn around.
But what people fail to remember (or don't care to learn) is the repetitive cycle of assimilation. The immigrants tend to struggle with the language. Their children are typically bilingual, and then the next generation is fully assimilated. We've seen this with every wave in American history, yet the reactionaries act like this is some new problem that we are grappling with. It's not.
My father was an immigrant from the Ukraine. He was very young (they came in about 1930). He learned English fluently, but my grandparents never did. Also, my real last name was Rosul, not Russell. My dad Americanized it so he could get a job. No one wanted to hire a Uke in Cleveland during the depression.0 -
Plus MS13 preys mostly on illegalsGo Beavers said:
If you’re claiming he was right, what was he right about. No one is saying ms 13 doesn’t exist. trump over stated the gang trying to weave it into a manipulative message about immigration policy. The actual number of ms 13 gang members has been the same for many years and was originally born in the US prison system.mcgruff10 said:
Ok whatever, I am not understanding your point. He emphasized a long time ago and everyone on the forum downplayed it; turns out he was right.Spiritual_Chaos said:
No, it was "not bad in mY book".mcgruff10 said:
Hey I call them like I see them, he was right.Spiritual_Chaos said:
"Not bad in Your book" , right?mcgruff10 said:Headline from my local newspaper (main area of distribution is two counties with approx one million people.) Seems like trump wasn’t wrong on this one:
by the way, it was “my neck of the woods.” When you want to use my own words use them right.0 -
Exactly..I know they've been in DC for years.Go Beavers said:
If you’re claiming he was right, what was he right about. No one is saying ms 13 doesn’t exist. trump over stated the gang trying to weave it into a manipulative message about immigration policy. The actual number of ms 13 gang members has been the same for many years and was originally born in the US prison system.mcgruff10 said:9
Ok whatever, I am not understanding your point. He emphasized a long time ago and everyone on the forum downplayed it; turns out he was right.Spiritual_Chaos said:
No, it was "not bad in mY book".mcgruff10 said:
Hey I call them like I see them, he was right.Spiritual_Chaos said:
"Not bad in Your book" , right?mcgruff10 said:Headline from my local newspaper (main area of distribution is two counties with approx one million people.) Seems like trump wasn’t wrong on this one:
by the way, it was “my neck of the woods.” When you want to use my own words use them right.0 -
Be afraid, be very afraid, particularly of the other. Maybe Faux News can go back to the scrolling color alert system for MS-13 and Team Trump Treason can refer to the caravan south of the border as the Terrorvan?mrussel1 said:
Exactly..I know they've been in DC for years.Go Beavers said:
If you’re claiming he was right, what was he right about. No one is saying ms 13 doesn’t exist. trump over stated the gang trying to weave it into a manipulative message about immigration policy. The actual number of ms 13 gang members has been the same for many years and was originally born in the US prison system.mcgruff10 said:9
Ok whatever, I am not understanding your point. He emphasized a long time ago and everyone on the forum downplayed it; turns out he was right.Spiritual_Chaos said:
No, it was "not bad in mY book".mcgruff10 said:
Hey I call them like I see them, he was right.Spiritual_Chaos said:
"Not bad in Your book" , right?mcgruff10 said:Headline from my local newspaper (main area of distribution is two counties with approx one million people.) Seems like trump wasn’t wrong on this one:
by the way, it was “my neck of the woods.” When you want to use my own words use them right.
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Typical textbook narcissist.....Trump gets ready to play midterm blowout blame game.https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/22/trump-midterms-blame-republicans-921782
According to one person with knowledge of these talks, Trump has said of Ryan and McConnell: “These are their elections … and if they screw it up, it’s not my fault.”Other sources said Trump is sure to lash out at perhaps his favorite bogeyman of all — the media — for allegedly opposing him.
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He did the same thing when we all thought he was going to lose in 2016. Wasn’t necessary then; isn’t now.1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine
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From the article I read their numbers are going up in nj.mrussel1 said:
Exactly..I know they've been in DC for years.Go Beavers said:
If you’re claiming he was right, what was he right about. No one is saying ms 13 doesn’t exist. trump over stated the gang trying to weave it into a manipulative message about immigration policy. The actual number of ms 13 gang members has been the same for many years and was originally born in the US prison system.mcgruff10 said:9
Ok whatever, I am not understanding your point. He emphasized a long time ago and everyone on the forum downplayed it; turns out he was right.Spiritual_Chaos said:
No, it was "not bad in mY book".mcgruff10 said:
Hey I call them like I see them, he was right.Spiritual_Chaos said:
"Not bad in Your book" , right?mcgruff10 said:Headline from my local newspaper (main area of distribution is two counties with approx one million people.) Seems like trump wasn’t wrong on this one:
by the way, it was “my neck of the woods.” When you want to use my own words use them right.
I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
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Yep they just want you to be man/woman, who else is left for this administration to attack?jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
What are they afraid of? Oh yea, the “other.”josevolution said:https://apple.news/AApI1C7vASruuUKqJyd5nEA
Yep they just want you to be man/woman, who else is left for this administration to attack?
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Are you afraid of the Bloods and the Crips too? What about Hell's Angels? Why do you think Trump singles out only this one kind of gang when there are many others like them?mcgruff10 said:
From the article I read their numbers are going up in nj.mrussel1 said:
Exactly..I know they've been in DC for years.Go Beavers said:
If you’re claiming he was right, what was he right about. No one is saying ms 13 doesn’t exist. trump over stated the gang trying to weave it into a manipulative message about immigration policy. The actual number of ms 13 gang members has been the same for many years and was originally born in the US prison system.mcgruff10 said:9
Ok whatever, I am not understanding your point. He emphasized a long time ago and everyone on the forum downplayed it; turns out he was right.Spiritual_Chaos said:
No, it was "not bad in mY book".mcgruff10 said:
Hey I call them like I see them, he was right.Spiritual_Chaos said:
"Not bad in Your book" , right?mcgruff10 said:Headline from my local newspaper (main area of distribution is two counties with approx one million people.) Seems like trump wasn’t wrong on this one:
by the way, it was “my neck of the woods.” When you want to use my own words use them right.www.myspace.com0 -
Yeah I am not a fan of any of the gangs you listed. The article was about how ms-13 is increasing their numbers and territory in Jersey; when I see a bloods and crips article I ll be sure to post.The Juggler said:
Are you afraid of the Bloods and the Crips too? What about Hell's Angels? Why do you think Trump singles out only this one kind of gang when there are many others like them?mcgruff10 said:
From the article I read their numbers are going up in nj.mrussel1 said:
Exactly..I know they've been in DC for years.Go Beavers said:
If you’re claiming he was right, what was he right about. No one is saying ms 13 doesn’t exist. trump over stated the gang trying to weave it into a manipulative message about immigration policy. The actual number of ms 13 gang members has been the same for many years and was originally born in the US prison system.mcgruff10 said:9
Ok whatever, I am not understanding your point. He emphasized a long time ago and everyone on the forum downplayed it; turns out he was right.Spiritual_Chaos said:
No, it was "not bad in mY book".mcgruff10 said:
Hey I call them like I see them, he was right.Spiritual_Chaos said:
"Not bad in Your book" , right?mcgruff10 said:Headline from my local newspaper (main area of distribution is two counties with approx one million people.) Seems like trump wasn’t wrong on this one:
by the way, it was “my neck of the woods.” When you want to use my own words use them right.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
I don't believe the liberals want open borders as none of them has stated that. Stop believing what our carnival barking president is telling you. Every other word out of his mouth is an easily provable lie.bootlegger10 said:Liberals don't understand that their push for open borders paved the way for Trump. It wasn't abortion. It wasn't taxes. It wasn't war mongering. Liberals can have it all if they supported a secured border and the laws in place. The Dems can then win presidency back and Congress and then actually change laws if they don't like them.
And this didn't "pave the way for Trump" as 3 million more people voted against him. What "paved the way" was him running against a terrible candidate, and the help of Jim Comey and Vladimir Putin.www.myspace.com0 -
What was Trump right about? Why do you think Trump singles out only this one kind of gang when there are many others like them?mcgruff10 said:
Yeah I am not a fan of any of the gangs you listed. The article was about how ms-13 is increasing their numbers and territory in Jersey; when I see a bloods and crips article I ll be sure to post.The Juggler said:
Are you afraid of the Bloods and the Crips too? What about Hell's Angels? Why do you think Trump singles out only this one kind of gang when there are many others like them?mcgruff10 said:
From the article I read their numbers are going up in nj.mrussel1 said:
Exactly..I know they've been in DC for years.Go Beavers said:
If you’re claiming he was right, what was he right about. No one is saying ms 13 doesn’t exist. trump over stated the gang trying to weave it into a manipulative message about immigration policy. The actual number of ms 13 gang members has been the same for many years and was originally born in the US prison system.mcgruff10 said:9
Ok whatever, I am not understanding your point. He emphasized a long time ago and everyone on the forum downplayed it; turns out he was right.Spiritual_Chaos said:
No, it was "not bad in mY book".mcgruff10 said:
Hey I call them like I see them, he was right.Spiritual_Chaos said:
"Not bad in Your book" , right?mcgruff10 said:Headline from my local newspaper (main area of distribution is two counties with approx one million people.) Seems like trump wasn’t wrong on this one:
by the way, it was “my neck of the woods.” When you want to use my own words use them right.
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- 56.8K Non-Pearl Jam Discussion
- 22.2K A Moving Train
- 31.7K All Encompassing Trip
- 2.9K Technical Stuff and Help