Elizabeth Warren and Her Ancestry. Thoughts?
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Gotcha...I agree with this. Just didn't understand what you were saying.PJ_Soul said:
You just explained why. Because so many people apparently think she is the total ass and not him, just because of this, without mention of all that ridiculous crap Trump said about it and that he promised $1M that he now won't give to charity. This one thing has been blown wildly out of proportion, while everything Trump does on a day to day basis is being minimized.cincybearcat said:
Why? Trump looks like an ass for a lot of things, his nicknaming is one.PJ_Soul said:
You just explained what is so seriously wrong with America right now.my2hands said:Because it is funny... whether people realize it or not she looks like a total ass to most people now because of this, not him
But in this specific situation, she certainly looks pretty bad herself.hippiemom = goodness0 -
Or search for how to freeze your ass off and live in a country that can't even win a trophy in the sport it invented while eating maple syrup.PJ_Soul said:brianlux said:PJ_Soul said:
You just explained why. Because so many people apparently think she is the total ass and not him, just because of this. This one thing has been blown wildly out of proportion, while everything Trump does on a day to day basis is being minimized.cincybearcat said:
Why? Trump looks like an ass for a lot of things, his nicknaming is one.PJ_Soul said:
You just explained what is so seriously wrong with America right now.my2hands said:Because it is funny... whether people realize it or not she looks like a total ass to most people now because of this, not him
But in this specific situation, she certainly looks pretty bad herself.Exactly! And how crazy is that!?Say, how difficult is it to emigrate to Canada these days? My step daughter lives in Alaska, my sister in the Bay Area, and my brother and some nephews in Washington state. BC would put me about half way between the extremes and would be a release from this insane asylum we live in.Just google "how to immigrate (or emigrate) to Canada" Brian, and you will find all the answers you're looking for.
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You don't think it will be used against her by other Democrats in the primary? Shiiiiiiit lolbrianlux said:
I really don't think voters will be focused on this petty issue in two years. If they are, and they re-elect Trump, then the idiot voters get what they deserve and the rest of us have to live in the same pool of slime. Or do what I will do, move to Saturn.cincybearcat said:
It's not a big deal in reality....but when talking about elections you have to look at the optics of the situation. And that matters to a lot of voters. Part of the reason why JFK beat Nixon. Optics.brianlux said:I don't understand why this is such a big deal. Of all the things we could complain about most politicians... wow.
So while it doesn't matter to me more than issues, I'm betting it will to plenty of voters.
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Nominee? It will be used in the primaries, lets not fool ourselves herecincybearcat said:
If Warren is the nominee it will certainly come up. No doubt about it. Teflon Don has a way of being awful and still making others pay for the 1 time they lied or were awful....I don;t get it, but I've seen it too many times to discount it anymore.brianlux said:
I really don't think voters will be focused on this petty issue in two years. If they are, and they re-elect Trump, then the idiot voters get what they deserve and the rest of us have to live in the same pool of slime. Or do what I will do, move to Saturn.cincybearcat said:
It's not a big deal in reality....but when talking about elections you have to look at the optics of the situation. And that matters to a lot of voters. Part of the reason why JFK beat Nixon. Optics.brianlux said:I don't understand why this is such a big deal. Of all the things we could complain about most politicians... wow.
So while it doesn't matter to me more than issues, I'm betting it will to plenty of voters.0 -
cincybearcat said:
If Warren is the nominee it will certainly come up. No doubt about it. Teflon Don has a way of being awful and still making others pay for the 1 time they lied or were awful....I don;t get it, but I've seen it too many times to discount it anymore.brianlux said:
I really don't think voters will be focused on this petty issue in two years. If they are, and they re-elect Trump, then the idiot voters get what they deserve and the rest of us have to live in the same pool of slime. Or do what I will do, move to Saturn.cincybearcat said:
It's not a big deal in reality....but when talking about elections you have to look at the optics of the situation. And that matters to a lot of voters. Part of the reason why JFK beat Nixon. Optics.brianlux said:I don't understand why this is such a big deal. Of all the things we could complain about most politicians... wow.
So while it doesn't matter to me more than issues, I'm betting it will to plenty of voters.So maybe EW should just learn to grab willies, treat men like dirt, use the word "billions" over and over and over, talk about how she really had just hoped she didn't have any of that dirty injun blood in her, and say and tweet stupid shit. This is the kind of stuff America really wants. Maybe then she would have a chance to become POTUS.And come up with a clever acronym/ slogan like, KARS. Keep American Ridiculously Stupid!
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brianlux said:cincybearcat said:
If Warren is the nominee it will certainly come up. No doubt about it. Teflon Don has a way of being awful and still making others pay for the 1 time they lied or were awful....I don;t get it, but I've seen it too many times to discount it anymore.brianlux said:
I really don't think voters will be focused on this petty issue in two years. If they are, and they re-elect Trump, then the idiot voters get what they deserve and the rest of us have to live in the same pool of slime. Or do what I will do, move to Saturn.cincybearcat said:
It's not a big deal in reality....but when talking about elections you have to look at the optics of the situation. And that matters to a lot of voters. Part of the reason why JFK beat Nixon. Optics.brianlux said:I don't understand why this is such a big deal. Of all the things we could complain about most politicians... wow.
So while it doesn't matter to me more than issues, I'm betting it will to plenty of voters.So maybe EW should just learn to grab willies, treat men like dirt, use the word "billions" over and over and over, talk about how she really had just hoped she didn't have any of that dirty injun blood in her, and say and tweet stupid shit. This is the kind of stuff America really wants. Maybe then she would have a chance to become POTUS.And come up with a clever acronym/ slogan like, KARS. Keep American Ridiculously Stupid!Great strategy if she ran as a republican.Dem voters have cognitive ability above neanderthal though.0 -
This is what got him elected, and this is what is going to get him reelectedSmellyman said:brianlux said:cincybearcat said:
If Warren is the nominee it will certainly come up. No doubt about it. Teflon Don has a way of being awful and still making others pay for the 1 time they lied or were awful....I don;t get it, but I've seen it too many times to discount it anymore.brianlux said:
I really don't think voters will be focused on this petty issue in two years. If they are, and they re-elect Trump, then the idiot voters get what they deserve and the rest of us have to live in the same pool of slime. Or do what I will do, move to Saturn.cincybearcat said:
It's not a big deal in reality....but when talking about elections you have to look at the optics of the situation. And that matters to a lot of voters. Part of the reason why JFK beat Nixon. Optics.brianlux said:I don't understand why this is such a big deal. Of all the things we could complain about most politicians... wow.
So while it doesn't matter to me more than issues, I'm betting it will to plenty of voters.So maybe EW should just learn to grab willies, treat men like dirt, use the word "billions" over and over and over, talk about how she really had just hoped she didn't have any of that dirty injun blood in her, and say and tweet stupid shit. This is the kind of stuff America really wants. Maybe then she would have a chance to become POTUS.And come up with a clever acronym/ slogan like, KARS. Keep American Ridiculously Stupid!Great strategy if she ran as a republican.Dem voters have cognitive ability above neanderthal though.
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Fear of the “other” and putin on the ritz is what got him elected.my2hands said:
This is what got him elected, and this is what is going to get him reelectedSmellyman said:brianlux said:cincybearcat said:
If Warren is the nominee it will certainly come up. No doubt about it. Teflon Don has a way of being awful and still making others pay for the 1 time they lied or were awful....I don;t get it, but I've seen it too many times to discount it anymore.brianlux said:
I really don't think voters will be focused on this petty issue in two years. If they are, and they re-elect Trump, then the idiot voters get what they deserve and the rest of us have to live in the same pool of slime. Or do what I will do, move to Saturn.cincybearcat said:
It's not a big deal in reality....but when talking about elections you have to look at the optics of the situation. And that matters to a lot of voters. Part of the reason why JFK beat Nixon. Optics.brianlux said:I don't understand why this is such a big deal. Of all the things we could complain about most politicians... wow.
So while it doesn't matter to me more than issues, I'm betting it will to plenty of voters.So maybe EW should just learn to grab willies, treat men like dirt, use the word "billions" over and over and over, talk about how she really had just hoped she didn't have any of that dirty injun blood in her, and say and tweet stupid shit. This is the kind of stuff America really wants. Maybe then she would have a chance to become POTUS.And come up with a clever acronym/ slogan like, KARS. Keep American Ridiculously Stupid!Great strategy if she ran as a republican.Dem voters have cognitive ability above neanderthal though.
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my2hands said:
This is what got him elected, and this is what is going to get him reelectedSmellyman said:brianlux said:cincybearcat said:
If Warren is the nominee it will certainly come up. No doubt about it. Teflon Don has a way of being awful and still making others pay for the 1 time they lied or were awful....I don;t get it, but I've seen it too many times to discount it anymore.brianlux said:
I really don't think voters will be focused on this petty issue in two years. If they are, and they re-elect Trump, then the idiot voters get what they deserve and the rest of us have to live in the same pool of slime. Or do what I will do, move to Saturn.cincybearcat said:
It's not a big deal in reality....but when talking about elections you have to look at the optics of the situation. And that matters to a lot of voters. Part of the reason why JFK beat Nixon. Optics.brianlux said:I don't understand why this is such a big deal. Of all the things we could complain about most politicians... wow.
So while it doesn't matter to me more than issues, I'm betting it will to plenty of voters.So maybe EW should just learn to grab willies, treat men like dirt, use the word "billions" over and over and over, talk about how she really had just hoped she didn't have any of that dirty injun blood in her, and say and tweet stupid shit. This is the kind of stuff America really wants. Maybe then she would have a chance to become POTUS.And come up with a clever acronym/ slogan like, KARS. Keep American Ridiculously Stupid!Great strategy if she ran as a republican.Dem voters have cognitive ability above neanderthal though.
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I felt this way in 2016 but just couldn't bring myself to vote for Trump. Maybe I will in 2020...if people keep looking down their noses at Trump supporters because that is pretty annoying to see. Trump supporters either had a good reason to vote for him (maybe they're just conservative and want conservatism to "trump" liberalism), were duped (really bought that he's a great businessman), or are just entertained by him (he can be funny sometimes). I think those are the three main groups of Trump voters. I think the racist or sexist voters turned on by Trump (cause there's definitely some) are the minority of his voting base.Smellyman said:my2hands said:
This is what got him elected, and this is what is going to get him reelectedSmellyman said:brianlux said:cincybearcat said:
If Warren is the nominee it will certainly come up. No doubt about it. Teflon Don has a way of being awful and still making others pay for the 1 time they lied or were awful....I don;t get it, but I've seen it too many times to discount it anymore.brianlux said:
I really don't think voters will be focused on this petty issue in two years. If they are, and they re-elect Trump, then the idiot voters get what they deserve and the rest of us have to live in the same pool of slime. Or do what I will do, move to Saturn.cincybearcat said:
It's not a big deal in reality....but when talking about elections you have to look at the optics of the situation. And that matters to a lot of voters. Part of the reason why JFK beat Nixon. Optics.brianlux said:I don't understand why this is such a big deal. Of all the things we could complain about most politicians... wow.
So while it doesn't matter to me more than issues, I'm betting it will to plenty of voters.So maybe EW should just learn to grab willies, treat men like dirt, use the word "billions" over and over and over, talk about how she really had just hoped she didn't have any of that dirty injun blood in her, and say and tweet stupid shit. This is the kind of stuff America really wants. Maybe then she would have a chance to become POTUS.And come up with a clever acronym/ slogan like, KARS. Keep American Ridiculously Stupid!Great strategy if she ran as a republican.Dem voters have cognitive ability above neanderthal though.
ElitismTrump may be a moron, racist, bigot, misogynist, narcissist, sexual predator, liar, tax evader, traitor, treasonous POS. But i will vote for him out of spite.
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Referring to your last sentence, based upon what?Ledbetterman10 said:
I felt this way in 2016 but just couldn't bring myself to vote for Trump. Maybe I will in 2020...if people keep looking down their noses at Trump supporters because that is pretty annoying to see. Trump supporters either had a good reason to vote for him (maybe they're just conservative and want conservatism to "trump" liberalism), were duped (really bought that he's a great businessman), or are just entertained by him (he can be funny sometimes). I think those are the three main groups of Trump voters. I think the racist or sexist voters turned on by Trump (cause there's definitely some) are the minority of his voting base.Smellyman said:my2hands said:
This is what got him elected, and this is what is going to get him reelectedSmellyman said:brianlux said:cincybearcat said:
If Warren is the nominee it will certainly come up. No doubt about it. Teflon Don has a way of being awful and still making others pay for the 1 time they lied or were awful....I don;t get it, but I've seen it too many times to discount it anymore.brianlux said:
I really don't think voters will be focused on this petty issue in two years. If they are, and they re-elect Trump, then the idiot voters get what they deserve and the rest of us have to live in the same pool of slime. Or do what I will do, move to Saturn.cincybearcat said:
It's not a big deal in reality....but when talking about elections you have to look at the optics of the situation. And that matters to a lot of voters. Part of the reason why JFK beat Nixon. Optics.brianlux said:I don't understand why this is such a big deal. Of all the things we could complain about most politicians... wow.
So while it doesn't matter to me more than issues, I'm betting it will to plenty of voters.So maybe EW should just learn to grab willies, treat men like dirt, use the word "billions" over and over and over, talk about how she really had just hoped she didn't have any of that dirty injun blood in her, and say and tweet stupid shit. This is the kind of stuff America really wants. Maybe then she would have a chance to become POTUS.And come up with a clever acronym/ slogan like, KARS. Keep American Ridiculously Stupid!Great strategy if she ran as a republican.Dem voters have cognitive ability above neanderthal though.
ElitismTrump may be a moron, racist, bigot, misogynist, narcissist, sexual predator, liar, tax evader, traitor, treasonous POS. But i will vote for him out of spite.
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Well I can't back it up with any statistics because there's no exit-polling data on whether someone is racist or not. But I contend that his racist base can't be that big because where were all these racists the past two elections? If there was ever a time for racists to get out and vote, it was in 2008 and 2012 against Obama right?Halifax2TheMax said:
Referring to your last sentence, based upon what?Ledbetterman10 said:
I felt this way in 2016 but just couldn't bring myself to vote for Trump. Maybe I will in 2020...if people keep looking down their noses at Trump supporters because that is pretty annoying to see. Trump supporters either had a good reason to vote for him (maybe they're just conservative and want conservatism to "trump" liberalism), were duped (really bought that he's a great businessman), or are just entertained by him (he can be funny sometimes). I think those are the three main groups of Trump voters. I think the racist or sexist voters turned on by Trump (cause there's definitely some) are the minority of his voting base.Smellyman said:my2hands said:
This is what got him elected, and this is what is going to get him reelectedSmellyman said:brianlux said:cincybearcat said:
If Warren is the nominee it will certainly come up. No doubt about it. Teflon Don has a way of being awful and still making others pay for the 1 time they lied or were awful....I don;t get it, but I've seen it too many times to discount it anymore.brianlux said:
I really don't think voters will be focused on this petty issue in two years. If they are, and they re-elect Trump, then the idiot voters get what they deserve and the rest of us have to live in the same pool of slime. Or do what I will do, move to Saturn.cincybearcat said:
It's not a big deal in reality....but when talking about elections you have to look at the optics of the situation. And that matters to a lot of voters. Part of the reason why JFK beat Nixon. Optics.brianlux said:I don't understand why this is such a big deal. Of all the things we could complain about most politicians... wow.
So while it doesn't matter to me more than issues, I'm betting it will to plenty of voters.So maybe EW should just learn to grab willies, treat men like dirt, use the word "billions" over and over and over, talk about how she really had just hoped she didn't have any of that dirty injun blood in her, and say and tweet stupid shit. This is the kind of stuff America really wants. Maybe then she would have a chance to become POTUS.And come up with a clever acronym/ slogan like, KARS. Keep American Ridiculously Stupid!Great strategy if she ran as a republican.Dem voters have cognitive ability above neanderthal though.
ElitismTrump may be a moron, racist, bigot, misogynist, narcissist, sexual predator, liar, tax evader, traitor, treasonous POS. But i will vote for him out of spite.
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Guess you didn’t read the article or the paper it’s based upon then?Ledbetterman10 said:
Well I can't back it up with any statistics because there's no exit-polling data on whether someone is racist or not. But I contend that his racist base can't be that big because where were all these racists the past two elections? If there was ever a time for racists to get out and vote, it was in 2008 and 2012 against Obama right?Halifax2TheMax said:
Referring to your last sentence, based upon what?Ledbetterman10 said:
I felt this way in 2016 but just couldn't bring myself to vote for Trump. Maybe I will in 2020...if people keep looking down their noses at Trump supporters because that is pretty annoying to see. Trump supporters either had a good reason to vote for him (maybe they're just conservative and want conservatism to "trump" liberalism), were duped (really bought that he's a great businessman), or are just entertained by him (he can be funny sometimes). I think those are the three main groups of Trump voters. I think the racist or sexist voters turned on by Trump (cause there's definitely some) are the minority of his voting base.Smellyman said:my2hands said:
This is what got him elected, and this is what is going to get him reelectedSmellyman said:brianlux said:cincybearcat said:
If Warren is the nominee it will certainly come up. No doubt about it. Teflon Don has a way of being awful and still making others pay for the 1 time they lied or were awful....I don;t get it, but I've seen it too many times to discount it anymore.brianlux said:
I really don't think voters will be focused on this petty issue in two years. If they are, and they re-elect Trump, then the idiot voters get what they deserve and the rest of us have to live in the same pool of slime. Or do what I will do, move to Saturn.cincybearcat said:
It's not a big deal in reality....but when talking about elections you have to look at the optics of the situation. And that matters to a lot of voters. Part of the reason why JFK beat Nixon. Optics.brianlux said:I don't understand why this is such a big deal. Of all the things we could complain about most politicians... wow.
So while it doesn't matter to me more than issues, I'm betting it will to plenty of voters.So maybe EW should just learn to grab willies, treat men like dirt, use the word "billions" over and over and over, talk about how she really had just hoped she didn't have any of that dirty injun blood in her, and say and tweet stupid shit. This is the kind of stuff America really wants. Maybe then she would have a chance to become POTUS.And come up with a clever acronym/ slogan like, KARS. Keep American Ridiculously Stupid!Great strategy if she ran as a republican.Dem voters have cognitive ability above neanderthal though.
ElitismTrump may be a moron, racist, bigot, misogynist, narcissist, sexual predator, liar, tax evader, traitor, treasonous POS. But i will vote for him out of spite.
Obama lost the white vote by 8% in 2008 and by 20% in 2012. But racism has been eliminated.
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And Obama won the black vote 93% to 6 % in 2012. So all those black people are racist for voting against a white guy?Halifax2TheMax said:
Guess you didn’t read the article or the paper it’s based upon then?Ledbetterman10 said:
Well I can't back it up with any statistics because there's no exit-polling data on whether someone is racist or not. But I contend that his racist base can't be that big because where were all these racists the past two elections? If there was ever a time for racists to get out and vote, it was in 2008 and 2012 against Obama right?Halifax2TheMax said:
Referring to your last sentence, based upon what?Ledbetterman10 said:
I felt this way in 2016 but just couldn't bring myself to vote for Trump. Maybe I will in 2020...if people keep looking down their noses at Trump supporters because that is pretty annoying to see. Trump supporters either had a good reason to vote for him (maybe they're just conservative and want conservatism to "trump" liberalism), were duped (really bought that he's a great businessman), or are just entertained by him (he can be funny sometimes). I think those are the three main groups of Trump voters. I think the racist or sexist voters turned on by Trump (cause there's definitely some) are the minority of his voting base.Smellyman said:my2hands said:
This is what got him elected, and this is what is going to get him reelectedSmellyman said:brianlux said:cincybearcat said:
If Warren is the nominee it will certainly come up. No doubt about it. Teflon Don has a way of being awful and still making others pay for the 1 time they lied or were awful....I don;t get it, but I've seen it too many times to discount it anymore.brianlux said:
I really don't think voters will be focused on this petty issue in two years. If they are, and they re-elect Trump, then the idiot voters get what they deserve and the rest of us have to live in the same pool of slime. Or do what I will do, move to Saturn.cincybearcat said:
It's not a big deal in reality....but when talking about elections you have to look at the optics of the situation. And that matters to a lot of voters. Part of the reason why JFK beat Nixon. Optics.brianlux said:I don't understand why this is such a big deal. Of all the things we could complain about most politicians... wow.
So while it doesn't matter to me more than issues, I'm betting it will to plenty of voters.So maybe EW should just learn to grab willies, treat men like dirt, use the word "billions" over and over and over, talk about how she really had just hoped she didn't have any of that dirty injun blood in her, and say and tweet stupid shit. This is the kind of stuff America really wants. Maybe then she would have a chance to become POTUS.And come up with a clever acronym/ slogan like, KARS. Keep American Ridiculously Stupid!Great strategy if she ran as a republican.Dem voters have cognitive ability above neanderthal though.
ElitismTrump may be a moron, racist, bigot, misogynist, narcissist, sexual predator, liar, tax evader, traitor, treasonous POS. But i will vote for him out of spite.
Obama lost the white vote by 8% in 2008 and by 20% in 2012. But racism has been eliminated.
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Read the link.Ledbetterman10 said:
And Obama won the black vote 93% to 6 % in 2012. So all those black people are racist for voting against a white guy?Halifax2TheMax said:
Guess you didn’t read the article or the paper it’s based upon then?Ledbetterman10 said:
Well I can't back it up with any statistics because there's no exit-polling data on whether someone is racist or not. But I contend that his racist base can't be that big because where were all these racists the past two elections? If there was ever a time for racists to get out and vote, it was in 2008 and 2012 against Obama right?Halifax2TheMax said:
Referring to your last sentence, based upon what?Ledbetterman10 said:
I felt this way in 2016 but just couldn't bring myself to vote for Trump. Maybe I will in 2020...if people keep looking down their noses at Trump supporters because that is pretty annoying to see. Trump supporters either had a good reason to vote for him (maybe they're just conservative and want conservatism to "trump" liberalism), were duped (really bought that he's a great businessman), or are just entertained by him (he can be funny sometimes). I think those are the three main groups of Trump voters. I think the racist or sexist voters turned on by Trump (cause there's definitely some) are the minority of his voting base.Smellyman said:my2hands said:
This is what got him elected, and this is what is going to get him reelectedSmellyman said:brianlux said:cincybearcat said:
If Warren is the nominee it will certainly come up. No doubt about it. Teflon Don has a way of being awful and still making others pay for the 1 time they lied or were awful....I don;t get it, but I've seen it too many times to discount it anymore.brianlux said:
I really don't think voters will be focused on this petty issue in two years. If they are, and they re-elect Trump, then the idiot voters get what they deserve and the rest of us have to live in the same pool of slime. Or do what I will do, move to Saturn.cincybearcat said:
It's not a big deal in reality....but when talking about elections you have to look at the optics of the situation. And that matters to a lot of voters. Part of the reason why JFK beat Nixon. Optics.brianlux said:I don't understand why this is such a big deal. Of all the things we could complain about most politicians... wow.
So while it doesn't matter to me more than issues, I'm betting it will to plenty of voters.So maybe EW should just learn to grab willies, treat men like dirt, use the word "billions" over and over and over, talk about how she really had just hoped she didn't have any of that dirty injun blood in her, and say and tweet stupid shit. This is the kind of stuff America really wants. Maybe then she would have a chance to become POTUS.And come up with a clever acronym/ slogan like, KARS. Keep American Ridiculously Stupid!Great strategy if she ran as a republican.Dem voters have cognitive ability above neanderthal though.
ElitismTrump may be a moron, racist, bigot, misogynist, narcissist, sexual predator, liar, tax evader, traitor, treasonous POS. But i will vote for him out of spite.
Obama lost the white vote by 8% in 2008 and by 20% in 2012. But racism has been eliminated.
Linked yesterday.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Because Obama represented their values and respected everyone?so yea.Ledbetterman10 said:
And Obama won the black vote 93% to 6 % in 2012. So all those black people are racist for voting against a white guy?Halifax2TheMax said:
Guess you didn’t read the article or the paper it’s based upon then?Ledbetterman10 said:
Well I can't back it up with any statistics because there's no exit-polling data on whether someone is racist or not. But I contend that his racist base can't be that big because where were all these racists the past two elections? If there was ever a time for racists to get out and vote, it was in 2008 and 2012 against Obama right?Halifax2TheMax said:
Referring to your last sentence, based upon what?Ledbetterman10 said:
I felt this way in 2016 but just couldn't bring myself to vote for Trump. Maybe I will in 2020...if people keep looking down their noses at Trump supporters because that is pretty annoying to see. Trump supporters either had a good reason to vote for him (maybe they're just conservative and want conservatism to "trump" liberalism), were duped (really bought that he's a great businessman), or are just entertained by him (he can be funny sometimes). I think those are the three main groups of Trump voters. I think the racist or sexist voters turned on by Trump (cause there's definitely some) are the minority of his voting base.Smellyman said:my2hands said:
This is what got him elected, and this is what is going to get him reelectedSmellyman said:brianlux said:cincybearcat said:
If Warren is the nominee it will certainly come up. No doubt about it. Teflon Don has a way of being awful and still making others pay for the 1 time they lied or were awful....I don;t get it, but I've seen it too many times to discount it anymore.brianlux said:
I really don't think voters will be focused on this petty issue in two years. If they are, and they re-elect Trump, then the idiot voters get what they deserve and the rest of us have to live in the same pool of slime. Or do what I will do, move to Saturn.cincybearcat said:
It's not a big deal in reality....but when talking about elections you have to look at the optics of the situation. And that matters to a lot of voters. Part of the reason why JFK beat Nixon. Optics.brianlux said:I don't understand why this is such a big deal. Of all the things we could complain about most politicians... wow.
So while it doesn't matter to me more than issues, I'm betting it will to plenty of voters.So maybe EW should just learn to grab willies, treat men like dirt, use the word "billions" over and over and over, talk about how she really had just hoped she didn't have any of that dirty injun blood in her, and say and tweet stupid shit. This is the kind of stuff America really wants. Maybe then she would have a chance to become POTUS.And come up with a clever acronym/ slogan like, KARS. Keep American Ridiculously Stupid!Great strategy if she ran as a republican.Dem voters have cognitive ability above neanderthal though.
ElitismTrump may be a moron, racist, bigot, misogynist, narcissist, sexual predator, liar, tax evader, traitor, treasonous POS. But i will vote for him out of spite.
Obama lost the white vote by 8% in 2008 and by 20% in 2012. But racism has been eliminated.
Linked yesterday.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Sure. And I highly doubt you read either.my2hands said:That link and study prove bupkusPost edited by Halifax2TheMax on09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Dear Watson,
All it shows is a consistent voting pattern over the past 40+ years that about 40% of white people support the Democratic candidate...
2008 Obama had the highest amount of support by whites for a Democrat since 1976 and Jimmy Carter... and in 2008 Obama enjoyed 54% support by young white voters... that's a huge number for a Democrat
The drop in support from 2008 to 2012 is simply a return to the historical average after an electric and transitional candidate in 2008 brought in large numbers of independents and swing voters that helped lead to a massive election victory which everyone knows couldn't be repeated... once the shine wore off they did what independent and swing voters do, they swung
It's common knowledge Republican voters tend to be whiter on average than Democratic voters... I dont think that's breaking news, brother
Here is the % of white voters that supported the democratic candidate. Seems statistically consistent to me.
1972 - 32
1976 - 47
1980 - 36
1984 - 35
1988 - 40
1992 - 39
1996 - 43
2000 - 42
2004 - 41
2008 - 43
2012 - 39
2016 - 37 (Good Job Hillary, elitism don't work)
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https://www.politico.com/story/2008/11/exit-polls-how-obama-won-015297
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2012/11/08/president-obama-and-the-white-vote-no-problem/
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Keep assuming and talking down to people, elitistHalifax2TheMax said:
Sure. And I highly doubt you read either.my2hands said:That link and study prove bupkus
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