Elizabeth Warren and Her Ancestry. Thoughts?

bootlegger10 said:

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brianlux said:

One good thing could come out of this- it might make a few more people aware of who she is.  Then, if she runs for president and gets to debate Trump, they'll soon see who the real idiot is.

Said every opponent of Trump's in the Republican primary and Hillary Clinton in the general.

This is going to be an issue for the democrats.   In trying to lay landmines for the GOP, they will eventually step on one themselves.  

JimmyV said:

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Jason P said:

This is going to be an issue for the democrats.   In trying to lay landmines for the GOP, they will eventually step on one themselves.  

In the past, yes, but the GOP stepped on a nuclear bomb in 2016 and 63 million Republicans still turned out to vote for Trump. Nothing on the Right matters anymore.

Hillary forgot to lay landmines in the midwest.  Easy to do if you never go there!  

my2hands said:

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JimmyV said:

This is a potential problem for the Democratic primary moreso than the general election. There either is a better nominee or there is not. Every politician has warts and every politician has weaknesses that will be exploited by the opposition. If the Dems can find someone better then nominate that person. But if they can't and this is the only reason why then they will have shot themselves in the foot.

If Warren is the nominee, and the opponent is Trump, anyone voting for him over her while claiming they did so because of ancestry while discounting all of Trump's flaws is completely and totally full of shit. If false claims, misstatements and lies bother you only when one party makes them then it isn't really about any false claim, misstatement or lie. It's about rooting for one team over the other, nothing more.

She is beyond tainted now, whether people like it or not. Unfortunately. Dont shoot the messenger

I'm not saying you are wrong, but I'll take the "tainted" candidate over the sitting President who will be mired in a Supreme Court case regarding whether or not he can pardon himself.

my2hands said:

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JimmyV said:

my2hands said:

JimmyV said:

This is a potential problem for the Democratic primary moreso than the general election. There either is a better nominee or there is not. Every politician has warts and every politician has weaknesses that will be exploited by the opposition. If the Dems can find someone better then nominate that person. But if they can't and this is the only reason why then they will have shot themselves in the foot.

If Warren is the nominee, and the opponent is Trump, anyone voting for him over her while claiming they did so because of ancestry while discounting all of Trump's flaws is completely and totally full of shit. If false claims, misstatements and lies bother you only when one party makes them then it isn't really about any false claim, misstatement or lie. It's about rooting for one team over the other, nothing more.

She is beyond tainted now, whether people like it or not. Unfortunately. Dont shoot the messenger

I'm not saying you are wrong, but I'll take the "tainted" candidate over the sitting President who will be mired in a Supreme Court case regarding whether or not he can pardon himself.

not me, not worth the risk. she will not be getting my vote in the primary, you can bet that. I need someone that will beat this fucking guy, and Pocahontas isn't the one. I had some hopes, but alas, she shot herself in the foot 

I'm not a huge Warren fan but it seems he can grab pussies all day and become potus* and she can talk about how her grandparent didnt want her parents to get married due to her moms family lineage and she is eliminated.

The bias by moderates and dems against the left is the biggest problem affecting America 

my2hands said:

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Lerxst1992 said:

my2hands said:

JimmyV said:

my2hands said:

JimmyV said:

This is a potential problem for the Democratic primary moreso than the general election. There either is a better nominee or there is not. Every politician has warts and every politician has weaknesses that will be exploited by the opposition. If the Dems can find someone better then nominate that person. But if they can't and this is the only reason why then they will have shot themselves in the foot.

If Warren is the nominee, and the opponent is Trump, anyone voting for him over her while claiming they did so because of ancestry while discounting all of Trump's flaws is completely and totally full of shit. If false claims, misstatements and lies bother you only when one party makes them then it isn't really about any false claim, misstatement or lie. It's about rooting for one team over the other, nothing more.

She is beyond tainted now, whether people like it or not. Unfortunately. Dont shoot the messenger

I'm not saying you are wrong, but I'll take the "tainted" candidate over the sitting President who will be mired in a Supreme Court case regarding whether or not he can pardon himself.

not me, not worth the risk. she will not be getting my vote in the primary, you can bet that. I need someone that will beat this fucking guy, and Pocahontas isn't the one. I had some hopes, but alas, she shot herself in the foot 

I'm not a huge Warren fan but it seems he can grab pussies all day and become potus* and she can talk about how her grandparent didnt want her parents to get married due to her moms family lineage and she is eliminated.

The bias by moderates and dems against the left is the biggest problem affecting America 

I'm not going to vote for her in the primary because I know she has no shot in a general election now, it at least that's my opinion. And this coming from a guy planning to try and vote for women straight down the ballot if possible 

I get that, but potus* will have a nasty attack and nickname for any opponent.

So what's the dems choices, Avenatti or Sean Penn, someone who will go curse for curse with him?

The media helped trump obliterate her this week, and the Indian thing was a legitimate family origin story of her parents marriage. I suspect her only alternative now is after her election to literally say fu^k you media, this really happened in my family and you took the liars side. Using curses and all.

I'm not going after you, I'm noting that there's an inherent bias against the dems by the media.

While the right gets to vote for a p grabber and Russian collaborator, there are unrealistic  expectations that the dems will be true to our democracy while at the same time, nasty enough to fight trump in the election. 

Almost as tough as landing a royal flush.

mickeyrat said:

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Lerxst1992 said:

my2hands said:

Lerxst1992 said:

my2hands said:

JimmyV said:

my2hands said:

JimmyV said:

This is a potential problem for the Democratic primary moreso than the general election. There either is a better nominee or there is not. Every politician has warts and every politician has weaknesses that will be exploited by the opposition. If the Dems can find someone better then nominate that person. But if they can't and this is the only reason why then they will have shot themselves in the foot.

If Warren is the nominee, and the opponent is Trump, anyone voting for him over her while claiming they did so because of ancestry while discounting all of Trump's flaws is completely and totally full of shit. If false claims, misstatements and lies bother you only when one party makes them then it isn't really about any false claim, misstatement or lie. It's about rooting for one team over the other, nothing more.

She is beyond tainted now, whether people like it or not. Unfortunately. Dont shoot the messenger

I'm not saying you are wrong, but I'll take the "tainted" candidate over the sitting President who will be mired in a Supreme Court case regarding whether or not he can pardon himself.

not me, not worth the risk. she will not be getting my vote in the primary, you can bet that. I need someone that will beat this fucking guy, and Pocahontas isn't the one. I had some hopes, but alas, she shot herself in the foot 

I'm not a huge Warren fan but it seems he can grab pussies all day and become potus* and she can talk about how her grandparent didnt want her parents to get married due to her moms family lineage and she is eliminated.

The bias by moderates and dems against the left is the biggest problem affecting America 

I'm not going to vote for her in the primary because I know she has no shot in a general election now, it at least that's my opinion. And this coming from a guy planning to try and vote for women straight down the ballot if possible 

I get that, but potus* will have a nasty attack and nickname for any opponent.

So what's the dems choices, Avenatti or Sean Penn, someone who will go curse for curse with him?

The media helped trump obliterate her this week, and the Indian thing was a legitimate family origin story of her parents marriage. I suspect her only alternative now is after her election to literally say fu^k you media, this really happened in my family and you took the liars side. Using curses and all.

I'm not going after you, I'm noting that there's an inherent bias against the dems by the media.

While the right gets to vote for a p grabber and Russian collaborator, there are unrealistic  expectations that the dems will be true to our democracy while at the same time, nasty enough to fight trump in the election. 

Almost as tough as landing a royal flush.

Biden.

Ugh. Old white lifetime politician that is creepy as hell? Surely the Dems can and will do better than that...I hope. Cause for fucks sake, they already made me actually vote for Hillary, and if Joe ran I’d have to vote for him....and I’ll throw up in my mouth as I do it.

cincybearcat said:

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mickeyrat said:

Lerxst1992 said:

my2hands said:

Lerxst1992 said:

my2hands said:

JimmyV said:

my2hands said:

JimmyV said:

This is a potential problem for the Democratic primary moreso than the general election. There either is a better nominee or there is not. Every politician has warts and every politician has weaknesses that will be exploited by the opposition. If the Dems can find someone better then nominate that person. But if they can't and this is the only reason why then they will have shot themselves in the foot.

If Warren is the nominee, and the opponent is Trump, anyone voting for him over her while claiming they did so because of ancestry while discounting all of Trump's flaws is completely and totally full of shit. If false claims, misstatements and lies bother you only when one party makes them then it isn't really about any false claim, misstatement or lie. It's about rooting for one team over the other, nothing more.

She is beyond tainted now, whether people like it or not. Unfortunately. Dont shoot the messenger

I'm not saying you are wrong, but I'll take the "tainted" candidate over the sitting President who will be mired in a Supreme Court case regarding whether or not he can pardon himself.

not me, not worth the risk. she will not be getting my vote in the primary, you can bet that. I need someone that will beat this fucking guy, and Pocahontas isn't the one. I had some hopes, but alas, she shot herself in the foot 

I'm not a huge Warren fan but it seems he can grab pussies all day and become potus* and she can talk about how her grandparent didnt want her parents to get married due to her moms family lineage and she is eliminated.

The bias by moderates and dems against the left is the biggest problem affecting America 

I'm not going to vote for her in the primary because I know she has no shot in a general election now, it at least that's my opinion. And this coming from a guy planning to try and vote for women straight down the ballot if possible 

I get that, but potus* will have a nasty attack and nickname for any opponent.

So what's the dems choices, Avenatti or Sean Penn, someone who will go curse for curse with him?

The media helped trump obliterate her this week, and the Indian thing was a legitimate family origin story of her parents marriage. I suspect her only alternative now is after her election to literally say fu^k you media, this really happened in my family and you took the liars side. Using curses and all.

I'm not going after you, I'm noting that there's an inherent bias against the dems by the media.

While the right gets to vote for a p grabber and Russian collaborator, there are unrealistic  expectations that the dems will be true to our democracy while at the same time, nasty enough to fight trump in the election. 

Almost as tough as landing a royal flush.

Biden.

Ugh. Old white lifetime politician that is creepy as hell? Surely the Dems can and will do better than that...I hope. Cause for fucks sake, they already made me actually vote for Hillary, and if Joe ran I’d have to vote for him....and I’ll throw up in my mouth as I do it.

Here is where we are far apart, I just don't understand why him being white matters.

If we said old black lifetime politician would it be an equal argument? Why would being black matter? 

Policies matter, nothing else.