Is America the greatest country in the world?
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Like I said, the planet will live on and the next animal species will exist. Animals will adapt, as they've shown over millions of years and maybe humans will too.Spiritual_Chaos said:
What? Raise those blinders.tbergs said:
Well, we as humans can't destroy the planet, except for ourselves.Spiritual_Chaos said:
That's not really a balanced "take". That is a defense for destroying the planet... or murder billions of people?cincybearcat said:
I have a different take. Humans are meant to eat meat. It's the fact that we are over-populating the planet as people continue to have way too many kids that's the root cause.brianlux said:If today's kids are going to have even a chance of living a halfway decent life, they are going to need to learn to eat more vegetable and less meat. Here is why:
"The destruction of wild habitat for farming, logging and development has resulted in the start of what many scientists consider the sixth mass extinction of life to occur in the Earth’s four billion year history. About half the Earth’s animals are thought to have been lost in the last 50 years."
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B-b-b-but we are destined to eat meat. ITS DESTINY.
Lazy determinism is laughable
I'm vegan. I just don't spout off about it and piss on everyone who isn't. I wish more people were, but yelling down to them will never make it so. My family and kids love vegetables. Our oldest also loves meat, while our youngest won't eat anything meat...yet. As weird as it is to us, our oldest likes to eat his salads without any dressing. Just a bowl or plate full of leafy greens and hearty veggies. They absolutely love green beans, cauliflower, broccoli, carrots and peppers. We make them all sorts of different veggies, some they like others they don't, but neither did I as a kid. I'm sure their tastes will change. We work at a CSA for our friends a mile down the road and the kids take part in the distribution. I just want them to know what is out there and not limit themselves. We introduce healthy food choices and hopefully that will instill it in them when they are older.
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I am not in the food service industry so why would I know that.Spiritual_Chaos said:@mcgruff10 did you really not know that other countries offer school meals for kids?I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
That is a solid article, thank you for sharing. Portion size is also enormous here as compared to other countries. I remember eating all across Europe and at first i couldn’t imagine getting full on such a little amount of food. After just a day or two I got used to it.PJ_Soul said:mcgruff10 said:
My wife and I have tried more times than I can count. The only real success we have had are zoodles. If you know the secret please do tell.Spiritual_Chaos said:
But still parents won't take their responsibility.brianlux said:If today's kids are going to have even a chance of living a halfway decent life, they are going to need to learn to eat more vegetable and less meat. Here is why:
But hey - "what kids want to eat vegetables?" Opinions out of some parallel universe stuck in the 1950s.
Get educated people.Here is a very interesting article about it. North America definitely has a problem with this picky eating with their kids, it's relatively new problem, and it's about parenting techniques as far as I can tell, combined with a shift in the food industry - it's a widespread cultural shift that's taken place that has negatively affected the eating habits of children. But it seems like there are things can do to prevent (although it's probably too late for kids over a certain age with the issue - seems like something that needs to start young).
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PJ_Soul said:mcgruff10 said:
My wife and I have tried more times than I can count. The only real success we have had are zoodles. If you know the secret please do tell.Spiritual_Chaos said:
But still parents won't take their responsibility.brianlux said:If today's kids are going to have even a chance of living a halfway decent life, they are going to need to learn to eat more vegetable and less meat. Here is why:
But hey - "what kids want to eat vegetables?" Opinions out of some parallel universe stuck in the 1950s.
Get educated people.Here is a very interesting article about it. North America definitely has a problem with this picky eating with their kids, it's relatively new problem, and it's about parenting techniques as far as I can tell, combined with a shift in the food industry - it's a widespread cultural shift that's taken place that has negatively affected the eating habits of children. But it seems like there are things can do to prevent (although it's probably too late for kids over a certain age with the issue - seems like something that needs to start young).Two great quotes I agree with:“Children’s menus are the death of civilization.”“At the core of the French approach is the belief that you teach your kids to eat just as you can teach them to read."
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European restaurants expect you to eat the food on your plate, not take half of it home with you to finish later.mcgruff10 said:
That is a solid article, thank you for sharing. Portion size is also enormous here as compared to other countries. I remember eating all across Europe and at first i couldn’t imagine getting full on such a little amount of food. After just a day or two I got used to it.PJ_Soul said:mcgruff10 said:
My wife and I have tried more times than I can count. The only real success we have had are zoodles. If you know the secret please do tell.Spiritual_Chaos said:
But still parents won't take their responsibility.brianlux said:If today's kids are going to have even a chance of living a halfway decent life, they are going to need to learn to eat more vegetable and less meat. Here is why:
But hey - "what kids want to eat vegetables?" Opinions out of some parallel universe stuck in the 1950s.
Get educated people.Here is a very interesting article about it. North America definitely has a problem with this picky eating with their kids, it's relatively new problem, and it's about parenting techniques as far as I can tell, combined with a shift in the food industry - it's a widespread cultural shift that's taken place that has negatively affected the eating habits of children. But it seems like there are things can do to prevent (although it's probably too late for kids over a certain age with the issue - seems like something that needs to start young).
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Maybe... because people pick up things about other parts of the world. And you're a teacher so it's relevant to your field. I think it would be more relevant to people working in schools than people working in "the food service industry"...mcgruff10 said:
I am not in the food service industry so why would I know that.Spiritual_Chaos said:@mcgruff10 did you really not know that other countries offer school meals for kids?
Maybe you should try watching some of those Michael Moore documentaries republicans like to piss on:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXK591Rp4BU&t=205s
So, Sweden school lunches for not-so-fat-kids 1, US school lunches for fatter-kids-that-have-been.taught-to-hate-vegetables 0.Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Fair enough. Yes indeed, serving healthy lunches to school children at school is the norm. North America is more the exception. North America fails miserably on this front. They treat the concept like something they shouldn't need to do, so when they do do it, it usually fucking sucks and isn't even healthy. Another symptom of America's overbearing obsession with capitalism IMO. Its pathetic failure to properly fund education can easily be seen in its lunch programs, or lack thereof.mcgruff10 said:
I am not in the food service industry so why would I know that.Spiritual_Chaos said:@mcgruff10 did you really not know that other countries offer school meals for kids?
Post edited by PJ_Soul onWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Now it’s ok to generalize about all Us parents. You are crazy.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Well seems, by the looks of US kids that you parents over there have a almost unique problem with it. NOW GIVE THEM A BAG OF CRISPS FOR SCHOOL!mcgruff10 said:
My wife and I have tried more times than I can count. The only real success we have had are zoodles. If you know the secret please do tell.Spiritual_Chaos said:
But still parents won't take their responsibility.brianlux said:If today's kids are going to have even a chance of living a halfway decent life, they are going to need to learn to eat more vegetable and less meat. Here is why:
But hey - "what kids want to eat vegetables?" Opinions out of some parallel universe stuck in the 1950s.
Get educated people.
*googling zoodles* hehe.
Heres a secret - STAR WARS
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You are so lazy in trying to understand other people’s points.Spiritual_Chaos said:
What? Raise those blinders.tbergs said:
Well, we as humans can't destroy the planet, except for ourselves.Spiritual_Chaos said:
That's not really a balanced "take". That is a defense for destroying the planet... or murder billions of people?cincybearcat said:
I have a different take. Humans are meant to eat meat. It's the fact that we are over-populating the planet as people continue to have way too many kids that's the root cause.brianlux said:If today's kids are going to have even a chance of living a halfway decent life, they are going to need to learn to eat more vegetable and less meat. Here is why:
"The destruction of wild habitat for farming, logging and development has resulted in the start of what many scientists consider the sixth mass extinction of life to occur in the Earth’s four billion year history. About half the Earth’s animals are thought to have been lost in the last 50 years."
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B-b-b-but we are destined to eat meat. ITS DESTINY.
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In what way would it be "crazy" to paint with a broad brush, when the obesity problem is the way it is in the US? That's how discussions work.cincybearcat said:
Now it’s ok to generalize about all Us parents. You are crazy.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Well seems, by the looks of US kids that you parents over there have a almost unique problem with it. NOW GIVE THEM A BAG OF CRISPS FOR SCHOOL!mcgruff10 said:
My wife and I have tried more times than I can count. The only real success we have had are zoodles. If you know the secret please do tell.Spiritual_Chaos said:
But still parents won't take their responsibility.brianlux said:If today's kids are going to have even a chance of living a halfway decent life, they are going to need to learn to eat more vegetable and less meat. Here is why:
But hey - "what kids want to eat vegetables?" Opinions out of some parallel universe stuck in the 1950s.
Get educated people.
*googling zoodles* hehe.
Heres a secret - STAR WARS
"We need to change our way of living to stop climate change
- Hey you, me over here - I'm actually not affecting climate change with my way of living - so how about not generalizing you crazy person!"Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
It’s impossible for me to have a conversation with you about this. So I’ll just stop. Cause I like my posting privledgesSpiritual_Chaos said:
In what way would it be "crazy" to paint with a broad brush, when the obesity problem is the way it is in the US? That's how discussions work.cincybearcat said:
Now it’s ok to generalize about all Us parents. You are crazy.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Well seems, by the looks of US kids that you parents over there have a almost unique problem with it. NOW GIVE THEM A BAG OF CRISPS FOR SCHOOL!mcgruff10 said:
My wife and I have tried more times than I can count. The only real success we have had are zoodles. If you know the secret please do tell.Spiritual_Chaos said:
But still parents won't take their responsibility.brianlux said:If today's kids are going to have even a chance of living a halfway decent life, they are going to need to learn to eat more vegetable and less meat. Here is why:
But hey - "what kids want to eat vegetables?" Opinions out of some parallel universe stuck in the 1950s.
Get educated people.
*googling zoodles* hehe.
Heres a secret - STAR WARS
"We need to change our way of living to stop climate change
- Hey you, me over here - I'm actually not affecting climate change with my way of living - so how about not generalizing you crazy person!"hippiemom = goodness0 -
Well...cincybearcat said:
It’s impossible for me to have a conversation with you about this. So I’ll just stop. Cause I like my posting privledgesSpiritual_Chaos said:
In what way would it be "crazy" to paint with a broad brush, when the obesity problem is the way it is in the US? That's how discussions work.cincybearcat said:
Now it’s ok to generalize about all Us parents. You are crazy.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Well seems, by the looks of US kids that you parents over there have a almost unique problem with it. NOW GIVE THEM A BAG OF CRISPS FOR SCHOOL!mcgruff10 said:
My wife and I have tried more times than I can count. The only real success we have had are zoodles. If you know the secret please do tell.Spiritual_Chaos said:
But still parents won't take their responsibility.brianlux said:If today's kids are going to have even a chance of living a halfway decent life, they are going to need to learn to eat more vegetable and less meat. Here is why:
But hey - "what kids want to eat vegetables?" Opinions out of some parallel universe stuck in the 1950s.
Get educated people.
*googling zoodles* hehe.
Heres a secret - STAR WARS
"We need to change our way of living to stop climate change
- Hey you, me over here - I'm actually not affecting climate change with my way of living - so how about not generalizing you crazy person!"
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For the record, you are in the clear to make generalizations about adults that still live with their parents nowcincybearcat said:
Now it’s ok to generalize about all Us parents. You are crazy.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Well seems, by the looks of US kids that you parents over there have a almost unique problem with it. NOW GIVE THEM A BAG OF CRISPS FOR SCHOOL!mcgruff10 said:
My wife and I have tried more times than I can count. The only real success we have had are zoodles. If you know the secret please do tell.Spiritual_Chaos said:
But still parents won't take their responsibility.brianlux said:If today's kids are going to have even a chance of living a halfway decent life, they are going to need to learn to eat more vegetable and less meat. Here is why:
But hey - "what kids want to eat vegetables?" Opinions out of some parallel universe stuck in the 1950s.
Get educated people.
*googling zoodles* hehe.
Heres a secret - STAR WARS
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Does spiritual really live with his parents?PJPOWER said:
For the record, you are in the clear to make generalizations about adults that still live with their parents nowcincybearcat said:
Now it’s ok to generalize about all Us parents. You are crazy.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Well seems, by the looks of US kids that you parents over there have a almost unique problem with it. NOW GIVE THEM A BAG OF CRISPS FOR SCHOOL!mcgruff10 said:
My wife and I have tried more times than I can count. The only real success we have had are zoodles. If you know the secret please do tell.Spiritual_Chaos said:
But still parents won't take their responsibility.brianlux said:If today's kids are going to have even a chance of living a halfway decent life, they are going to need to learn to eat more vegetable and less meat. Here is why:
But hey - "what kids want to eat vegetables?" Opinions out of some parallel universe stuck in the 1950s.
Get educated people.
*googling zoodles* hehe.
Heres a secret - STAR WARSI'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
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Then why the waste comments? Or my kids are well fed and play sports so who needs it? Fuck it’s like all you want to do is piss on those with less rather than help them? I really don’t understand the callouseness? It’s like telling those in Florida, fuck you deal.mcgruff10 said:
I love when you overreact to a post. We seriously need to sit down and have beers on the next tour. My point was, it is an obvious answer. No shit kids who are hungry don't learn as much. I mean that is like saying, it's negative 45 outside, you might be cold. Wow here comes a category 5 hurricane, there might be rain and wind. You are at a pearl jam concert, you could hear some pearl jam songs.Halifax2TheMax said:
You don’t believe that? Have you ever been hungry? Had to live without knowing where or how your next meal comes from? Why do so many kick the poor? Spit on them? Have you no charity? Fucking kids, fuck them.mcgruff10 said:
Can someone get me the name of the person who laid out the money to figure out well fed kids do better in school than kids who are constantly hungry? I have a bridge to sell them.Halifax2TheMax said:Pro life until you’re born. 20% of US school age kids live below the poverty line and don’t eat 3 meals a day, with school provided food being the sole meal of the day. Studies show that well fed kids do better in school because they’re not constantly hungry. Never mind the nutrition and brain development aspect of it. But hey, need a pipeline to the prison industrial complex where we spend 8-10 times more on an incarcerated inmate than a elementary school student. ‘Murica, woot!
This is what you said McGruff:Total waste. And talk about the added expense to each school district; it got so bad that our lunch program lost over a 125k last year.
This program was definitely an overreach by our govt.I'm assuming that by "program" you meant the school lunch program, as that's what we're discussing. You called it a "total waste" and "overreach by our government." Apparently, studies that show that well fed kids do better academically is so well known that a program to feed kids in school, because they don't eat enough at home, is a total waste and overreach by our government. And also should be dismissed with ridicule of facts. Your school losing $125K seems to be a managerial issue and I would hope you've called for those responsible to be held to account? But your school and your kids' eating and exercise habits are not the norm, as evidenced by the obesity statistics I posted previously. Your response, or attitude, of "I'm doing it right so why can't everyone else because its just a waste," is what sets me off. As it relates to Team Trump Treason, he ridiculed the Obamas for having a garden and encouraging all Americans to eat more vegetables and to have a healthier diet of less sugar and meat. Oh, the fucking horror to our precious individual "freedoms."
Regardless, the school lunch program has become a give away to farmers and the processed food industry, as well as food management firms (Sodexho, Aramark. Chartwells, etc.). Read up on what our military thinks about our obesity epidemic and how that bodes for the future.
And for the record, I can neither confirm nor deny that I'm from Halifax or Canada but the US is turning into a shithole country.
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You would have to ask him...What generalizations, though, are typically made of adults that still live with their parents?mcgruff10 said:
Does spiritual really live with his parents?PJPOWER said:
For the record, you are in the clear to make generalizations about adults that still live with their parents nowcincybearcat said:
Now it’s ok to generalize about all Us parents. You are crazy.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Well seems, by the looks of US kids that you parents over there have a almost unique problem with it. NOW GIVE THEM A BAG OF CRISPS FOR SCHOOL!mcgruff10 said:
My wife and I have tried more times than I can count. The only real success we have had are zoodles. If you know the secret please do tell.Spiritual_Chaos said:
But still parents won't take their responsibility.brianlux said:If today's kids are going to have even a chance of living a halfway decent life, they are going to need to learn to eat more vegetable and less meat. Here is why:
But hey - "what kids want to eat vegetables?" Opinions out of some parallel universe stuck in the 1950s.
Get educated people.
*googling zoodles* hehe.
Heres a secret - STAR WARS0 -
Gen Xers still think that only losers who can't get jobs and/or can't take care of themselves live with their parents past normal university age I'm afraid. Of course that is an outdated generalization at this point.PJPOWER said:
You would have to ask him...What generalizations, though, are typically made of adults that still live with their parents?mcgruff10 said:
Does spiritual really live with his parents?PJPOWER said:
For the record, you are in the clear to make generalizations about adults that still live with their parents nowcincybearcat said:
Now it’s ok to generalize about all Us parents. You are crazy.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Well seems, by the looks of US kids that you parents over there have a almost unique problem with it. NOW GIVE THEM A BAG OF CRISPS FOR SCHOOL!mcgruff10 said:
My wife and I have tried more times than I can count. The only real success we have had are zoodles. If you know the secret please do tell.Spiritual_Chaos said:
But still parents won't take their responsibility.brianlux said:If today's kids are going to have even a chance of living a halfway decent life, they are going to need to learn to eat more vegetable and less meat. Here is why:
But hey - "what kids want to eat vegetables?" Opinions out of some parallel universe stuck in the 1950s.
Get educated people.
*googling zoodles* hehe.
Heres a secret - STAR WARS
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
I don’t think I could ever move in with my parents again. I had to after I got divorced and it was miserable!!PJPOWER said:
You would have to ask him...What generalizations, though, are typically made of adults that still live with their parents?mcgruff10 said:
Does spiritual really live with his parents?PJPOWER said:
For the record, you are in the clear to make generalizations about adults that still live with their parents nowcincybearcat said:
Now it’s ok to generalize about all Us parents. You are crazy.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Well seems, by the looks of US kids that you parents over there have a almost unique problem with it. NOW GIVE THEM A BAG OF CRISPS FOR SCHOOL!mcgruff10 said:
My wife and I have tried more times than I can count. The only real success we have had are zoodles. If you know the secret please do tell.Spiritual_Chaos said:
But still parents won't take their responsibility.brianlux said:If today's kids are going to have even a chance of living a halfway decent life, they are going to need to learn to eat more vegetable and less meat. Here is why:
But hey - "what kids want to eat vegetables?" Opinions out of some parallel universe stuck in the 1950s.
Get educated people.
*googling zoodles* hehe.
Heres a secret - STAR WARS
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This doesn’t really matter though.mcgruff10 said:
Does spiritual really live with his parents?PJPOWER said:
For the record, you are in the clear to make generalizations about adults that still live with their parents nowcincybearcat said:
Now it’s ok to generalize about all Us parents. You are crazy.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Well seems, by the looks of US kids that you parents over there have a almost unique problem with it. NOW GIVE THEM A BAG OF CRISPS FOR SCHOOL!mcgruff10 said:
My wife and I have tried more times than I can count. The only real success we have had are zoodles. If you know the secret please do tell.Spiritual_Chaos said:
But still parents won't take their responsibility.brianlux said:If today's kids are going to have even a chance of living a halfway decent life, they are going to need to learn to eat more vegetable and less meat. Here is why:
But hey - "what kids want to eat vegetables?" Opinions out of some parallel universe stuck in the 1950s.
Get educated people.
*googling zoodles* hehe.
Heres a secret - STAR WARShippiemom = goodness0 -
Wow, I bet Gen Xers do not take kindly to other Gen Xers that still live with their parents, then, lol.PJ_Soul said:
Gen Xers still think that only losers who can't get jobs and/or can't take care of themselves live with their parents past normal university age I'm afraid. Of course that is an outdated generalization at this point.PJPOWER said:
You would have to ask him...What generalizations, though, are typically made of adults that still live with their parents?mcgruff10 said:
Does spiritual really live with his parents?PJPOWER said:
For the record, you are in the clear to make generalizations about adults that still live with their parents nowcincybearcat said:
Now it’s ok to generalize about all Us parents. You are crazy.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Well seems, by the looks of US kids that you parents over there have a almost unique problem with it. NOW GIVE THEM A BAG OF CRISPS FOR SCHOOL!mcgruff10 said:
My wife and I have tried more times than I can count. The only real success we have had are zoodles. If you know the secret please do tell.Spiritual_Chaos said:
But still parents won't take their responsibility.brianlux said:If today's kids are going to have even a chance of living a halfway decent life, they are going to need to learn to eat more vegetable and less meat. Here is why:
But hey - "what kids want to eat vegetables?" Opinions out of some parallel universe stuck in the 1950s.
Get educated people.
*googling zoodles* hehe.
Heres a secret - STAR WARS
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