Is America the greatest country in the world?
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 Who eats that shit? Lolmcgruff10 said:
 Frozen bags of organic carrots and peas cost me like $1.50 at target, maybe your district should shop there lol0
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 That s the point bud. No one eats that shit but yet schools all across America were forced to make these switches. Like i said, I couldn’t believe the amount of waste in the garbage over the years. what kids want to eat vegetables with lunch? from my observation, not many at all.my2hands said:
 Who eats that shit? Lolmcgruff10 said:
 Frozen bags of organic carrots and peas cost me like $1.50 at target, maybe your district should shop there lol
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            Spinach on pizza sounds like the classic win-win0
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            mcgruff10 said:
 And you Canadians suck at reading because no one is discussing free and reduced lunch!!!! Michelle Obama s new lunch program if anything left a lot of kids hungry.oftenreading said:mcgruff10 said:
 Estimated 15 million ar-15's in america, 99.99% are responsible owners. Worth it. The statistics are actually in my favor.Halifax2TheMax said:If one kid eats everything on their tray and 299 toss everything? Worth it.
 Because owning guns is absolutely on par with feeding hungry kids
 God I hope all of you who preach how America is so bad really put your money where your mouth is and don’t visit us. Please don’t come here. The other millions upon millions of people visiting here will make up for you.
 Yes, actually, some of us were discussing that very topic. Not sure why you didn't understand that, but guess you were focused on the guns instead.
 It might be that you don't write as clearly as you think you do.
 And no one gives a shit about where you think I should travel.
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 Yea right. Keep believing the myth.bootlegger10 said:mcgruff10 said:And never did I once ever bring up free and reduced lunch. You remind me of a bitter old retired man who has nothing to do but bash everything. Don't throw rocks in glass houses. Check that, no beers in the future. Good luck dude, you are fucking miserable.
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 There in lies the problem.mcgruff10 said:
 Out of touch? I have been a public school teacher on the front lines for 18 years. So I am thinking you might need to talk to someone. You are angry and draw some pretty crazy correlations and inferences.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Fuck n A. How out of touch do you have to be? You sound like you’re in bunker. So you have resources so screw everyone? Is that really it for you?mcgruff10 said:
 Pretty par for the course here. Typical miserable people complaining about anything and everything.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:mcgruff10 said:
 Del you know I have zero problem with you and I am sorry to lump all Canadians in there. But man, it gets old. I don’t like government dictating my kids lunch and all of a sudden I am the second coming of hitler. And the two usual suspects are the contributors.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:mcgruff10 said:
 And you Canadians suck at reading because no one is discussing free and reduced lunch!!!! Michelle Obama s new lunch program if anything left a lot of kids hungry.oftenreading said:mcgruff10 said:
 Estimated 15 million ar-15's in america, 99.99% are responsible owners. Worth it. The statistics are actually in my favor.Halifax2TheMax said:If one kid eats everything on their tray and 299 toss everything? Worth it.
 Because owning guns is absolutely on par with feeding hungry kids
 God I hope all of you who preach how America is so bad really put your money where your mouth is and don’t visit us. Please don’t come here. The other millions upon millions of people visiting here will make up for you.
 Aww come on, Scruffy.
 We don't have Golden Corrals up here. Sure... we might look slightly anorexic when we dine amongst you guys, but don't hold things like that (and our poor reading comprehension) against us. Instead... welcome us and be grateful that our tourist money is finding its way into the bank accounts of your 1%!
 You haven't said anything egregious. I'm not sure why you're being attacked to be honest. I agree that a lunch program should not be a staple of the school system. Saying this, I do feel that schools do need to be sensitive to some kids' needs and provide for them. I haven't heard you say anything contrary to this.
 The thinking around here is: if you are against mandatory vegetables at lunch you are against feeding children which makes you a nazi.
 Yes we are talking about food but don’t you dare bring up that your children are in good shape and get plenty of exercise because school is meant for education!!!
 these same people either don’t have kids, don’t teach in public education or don’t live in the us.
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 For the kid who doesn’t get to eat at home. Is it really that difficult for you to realize that? 20% of American kids live below the poverty line and maybe get one meal a day. At school. You? Your kids’ caloric intake and sports regimens make them healthy specimens. Fuck everyone else. We shouldn’t have schools feeding kids, there’s so much waste! Omg! Be healthy? Recommend better diets? Better food for school lunch programs? Get government out of my life! Must be nice to grow up with such models of charity, love and concern. But what if your a kid and that’s not your reality? Fuck McGruff, think about what you say and how what YOU have may not be the norm. For once.mcgruff10 said:
 Sympathy for what? Free and reduced lunch have been around forever.Halifax2TheMax said:
 How about showing some semblance of sympathy?mcgruff10 said:
 Seriously, what the fuck are you talking about? I am supposed to feel bad because my wife and I are successful and can afford to feed our kids and have them play sports? Get off your high horse. I seriously have no clue what you are talking about. Yeah I don't want government interfering with what my kids eat at lunch. I guess that makes me a bad person.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Then why the waste comments? Or my kids are well fed and play sports so who needs it? Fuck it’s like all you want to do is piss on those with less rather than help them? I really don’t understand the callouseness? It’s like telling those in Florida, fuck you deal.mcgruff10 said:
 I love when you overreact to a post. We seriously need to sit down and have beers on the next tour. My point was, it is an obvious answer. No shit kids who are hungry don't learn as much. I mean that is like saying, it's negative 45 outside, you might be cold. Wow here comes a category 5 hurricane, there might be rain and wind. You are at a pearl jam concert, you could hear some pearl jam songs.Halifax2TheMax said:
 You don’t believe that? Have you ever been hungry? Had to live without knowing where or how your next meal comes from? Why do so many kick the poor? Spit on them? Have you no charity? Fucking kids, fuck them.mcgruff10 said:
 Can someone get me the name of the person who laid out the money to figure out well fed kids do better in school than kids who are constantly hungry? I have a bridge to sell them.Halifax2TheMax said:Pro life until you’re born. 20% of US school age kids live below the poverty line and don’t eat 3 meals a day, with school provided food being the sole meal of the day. Studies show that well fed kids do better in school because they’re not constantly hungry. Never mind the nutrition and brain development aspect of it. But hey, need a pipeline to the prison industrial complex where we spend 8-10 times more on an incarcerated inmate than a elementary school student. ‘Murica, woot!
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 Maybe I don't write as clearly as I should but where in the last two pages were you discussing free and reduced lunch? Like I said, I don't like the program because it was an overreach by government. And there was so much waste.oftenreading said:mcgruff10 said:
 And you Canadians suck at reading because no one is discussing free and reduced lunch!!!! Michelle Obama s new lunch program if anything left a lot of kids hungry.oftenreading said:mcgruff10 said:
 Estimated 15 million ar-15's in america, 99.99% are responsible owners. Worth it. The statistics are actually in my favor.Halifax2TheMax said:If one kid eats everything on their tray and 299 toss everything? Worth it.
 Because owning guns is absolutely on par with feeding hungry kids
 God I hope all of you who preach how America is so bad really put your money where your mouth is and don’t visit us. Please don’t come here. The other millions upon millions of people visiting here will make up for you.
 Yes, actually, some of us were discussing that very topic. Not sure why you didn't understand that, but guess you were focused on the guns instead.
 It might be that you don't write as clearly as you think you do.
 And no one gives a shit about where you think I should travel.
 The gun statistic was an example of sarcasm, I apologize if it was lost in translation.
 And why visit here when you constantly bash it?Post edited by mcgruff10 onI'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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            Mike's point is simple... and if you work in any level of government you see it all the time... people in conference rooms, far removed from reality, love to come up with overly idealistic agendas and ideas that are not realistic and are doomed for obvious failure... then, when the calamity hits, the idealistic conference room leaders don't care because they've already moved onto the next bad idea lol
 Taking soda machines out of schools is easy, getting kids to eat green leafy vegetables and carrots is not0
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            Either that or he is a Nazi that wants to starve children lol                        0 lol                        0
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 lol. That is how is goes around here. You do realize that since you have explained my point further you will be labeled as someone who hates children and wants them to starve while in school.my2hands said:Either that or he is a Nazi that wants to starve children lolI'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 lolI'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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            Gotta say pretty surprised, even for AMT, to see someone getting so much hate about this guy's opinion. Not surprised to see some get away with ridiculing him for his positions and his profession yet again.
 Lots of side topics it seems. I'd say I 100% agree with offering reduced and free lunches. In some areas it's the only real meal some of these kids get each day. I'm also for figuring out a similar program for the summer...but not driven by the schools, unless it makes sense.
 As far as the lunches go, I understand what the desired outcome was and it was a good and noble cause. In a situation where kids are eating on their own and can eat what they want and throw away what they want, it is not the place to work that issue. Finding the happy medium of providing food kids will eat when left alone and providing healthy food while hoping to drive the argument about healthier eating would have been better. Though some would knee jerk to being against it just because it was Obama or because it's the government.
 I only have my own kid's experience as well as a family member that works in a school cafeteria in a poor district to go off of, other than news outlets though. For my kid it didn't really effect her. She probably packs 1 more time a week because of not liking the food as much, but in general she found food she liked and ate good choices about 3/5 days a week. She is a very healthy athlete (dancer) and continues to make the good choices that even as an adult myself and my wife don;t always make. She prefers fruit to fries....not sure how that happened other than we are better coaches then doers in that area!
 Anyhow - I'm still not sure how being against the program due to waste and cost means you hate kids....but I'm sure someone will tell me.hippiemom = goodness0
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            mcgruff10 said:
 Maybe I don't write as clearly as I should but where in the last two pages were you discussing free and reduced lunch? Like I said, I don't like the program because it was an overreach by government. And there was so much waste.oftenreading said:mcgruff10 said:
 And you Canadians suck at reading because no one is discussing free and reduced lunch!!!! Michelle Obama s new lunch program if anything left a lot of kids hungry.oftenreading said:mcgruff10 said:
 Estimated 15 million ar-15's in america, 99.99% are responsible owners. Worth it. The statistics are actually in my favor.Halifax2TheMax said:If one kid eats everything on their tray and 299 toss everything? Worth it.
 Because owning guns is absolutely on par with feeding hungry kids
 God I hope all of you who preach how America is so bad really put your money where your mouth is and don’t visit us. Please don’t come here. The other millions upon millions of people visiting here will make up for you.
 Yes, actually, some of us were discussing that very topic. Not sure why you didn't understand that, but guess you were focused on the guns instead.
 It might be that you don't write as clearly as you think you do.
 And no one gives a shit about where you think I should travel.
 The gun statistic was an example of sarcasm, I apologize if it was lost in translation.
 And why visit here when you constantly bash it?
 Goodness, sorry for missing the sarcasm; it's just that we don't typically call it sarcasm when it's also someone's actual opinion.
 I don't call providing nutritious food to kids who need it an "overreach by government", so I guess that's where are opinions differ. I don't automatically assume that a government program designed to assist people who need help is a "government overreach". If there was a lot of waste, your school system didn't do it right. I know that our local school district had a really successful program providing fruits and vegetables in the classrooms. The kids loved it and there was very little waste.
 As for the US, I have a lot of American friends and a good number of people that I love in the US. The country has some great cities, some beautiful natural areas, and a band that I like (a few, actually). It also has a current federal government that completely sucks, a massive gun problem, huge and growing inequities, a terrible health care system, and some other problems that should be recognized and not swept under the rug. Commenting on those isn't "bashing the country"; that's the mistake made by those who fall into the "love it or get out" camp, and one of the purposes of this thread originally, I believe.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0
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 This seems uncalled for. The attack on the Canadians that is.mcgruff10 said:
 And you Canadians suck at reading because no one is discussing free and reduced lunch!!!! Michelle Obama s new lunch program if anything left a lot of kids hungry.oftenreading said:mcgruff10 said:
 Estimated 15 million ar-15's in america, 99.99% are responsible owners. Worth it. The statistics are actually in my favor.Halifax2TheMax said:If one kid eats everything on their tray and 299 toss everything? Worth it.
 Because owning guns is absolutely on par with feeding hungry kids
 God I hope all of you who preach how America is so bad really put your money where your mouth is and don’t visit us. Please don’t come here. The other millions upon millions of people visiting here will make up for you.
 With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0
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 I was referring to the two Canadians who can’t read, not all Canadians. I should have been more clear. It just gets really frustrating when words are twisted. I still haven’t seen where free and reduced lunch was talked about in the last two pages.PJ_Soul said:
 This seems uncalled for. The attack on the Canadians that is.mcgruff10 said:
 And you Canadians suck at reading because no one is discussing free and reduced lunch!!!! Michelle Obama s new lunch program if anything left a lot of kids hungry.oftenreading said:mcgruff10 said:
 Estimated 15 million ar-15's in america, 99.99% are responsible owners. Worth it. The statistics are actually in my favor.Halifax2TheMax said:If one kid eats everything on their tray and 299 toss everything? Worth it.
 Because owning guns is absolutely on par with feeding hungry kids
 God I hope all of you who preach how America is so bad really put your money where your mouth is and don’t visit us. Please don’t come here. The other millions upon millions of people visiting here will make up for you.Post edited by mcgruff10 onI'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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 Is it even confirmed that Halifax is Canadian??mcgruff10 said:
 I was referring to the two Canadians who can’t read, not all Canadians. I should have been more clear. It just gets really frustrating when words are twisted. I still haven’t seen where free and reduced lunch was talked about in the last two pages.PJ_Soul said:
 This seems uncalled for. The attack on the Canadians that is.mcgruff10 said:
 And you Canadians suck at reading because no one is discussing free and reduced lunch!!!! Michelle Obama s new lunch program if anything left a lot of kids hungry.oftenreading said:mcgruff10 said:
 Estimated 15 million ar-15's in america, 99.99% are responsible owners. Worth it. The statistics are actually in my favor.Halifax2TheMax said:If one kid eats everything on their tray and 299 toss everything? Worth it.
 Because owning guns is absolutely on par with feeding hungry kids
 God I hope all of you who preach how America is so bad really put your money where your mouth is and don’t visit us. Please don’t come here. The other millions upon millions of people visiting here will make up for you.
 With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0
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 I always thought he was based on his screen name. I really have no clue.PJ_Soul said:
 Is it even confirmed that Halifax is Canadian??mcgruff10 said:
 I was referring to the two Canadians who can’t read, not all Canadians. I should have been more clear. It just gets really frustrating when words are twisted. I still haven’t seen where free and reduced lunch was talked about in the last two pages.PJ_Soul said:
 This seems uncalled for. The attack on the Canadians that is.mcgruff10 said:
 And you Canadians suck at reading because no one is discussing free and reduced lunch!!!! Michelle Obama s new lunch program if anything left a lot of kids hungry.oftenreading said:mcgruff10 said:
 Estimated 15 million ar-15's in america, 99.99% are responsible owners. Worth it. The statistics are actually in my favor.Halifax2TheMax said:If one kid eats everything on their tray and 299 toss everything? Worth it.
 Because owning guns is absolutely on par with feeding hungry kids
 God I hope all of you who preach how America is so bad really put your money where your mouth is and don’t visit us. Please don’t come here. The other millions upon millions of people visiting here will make up for you.
 I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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