Canadian Politics Redux

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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Correctional Service Canada (CSC) is looking into how an inmate escaped from the Mission Institution minimum security unit Saturday night.https://globalnews.ca/news/4423451/inmate-serving-time-for-manslaughter-escapes-missions-minimum-security-unit/

    I wonder why he escaped from a minimum security facility ... hmmm .... lets think about.  It could be because he is only serving  a 14 year sentence for  manslaughter, arson, escape, and other offences.  Don't look into to hard. 
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  • Correctional Service Canada (CSC) is looking into how an inmate escaped from the Mission Institution minimum security unit Saturday night.https://globalnews.ca/news/4423451/inmate-serving-time-for-manslaughter-escapes-missions-minimum-security-unit/

    I wonder why he escaped from a minimum security facility ... hmmm .... lets think about.  It could be because he is only serving  a 14 year sentence for  manslaughter, arson, escape, and other offences.  Don't look into to hard. 

    Yah.

    I take a beating every now and then when I refer to murderers and rapists and pedophiles serving piddly amounts of time at a country club for their grievous offences. I've illustrated multiple times very similar situations that are bloody comical.

    For the amount of time and effort we place into investigating, arresting, court proceedings, jury selection (100s of people every day for 2-3 cases), parole hearings, housing, etc. to culminate in these laughable sentences... I think we'd be better off just letting things happen.

    If the old argument 'consequences are not a deterrent' is valid (and we can't stop crimes from happening given people are unconcerned with consequences)... and the pathetically weak sentences we continually dole out hardly resemble justice (not to mention that to some... they're just 'revenge' anyways)... what's the point?
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Correctional Service Canada (CSC) is looking into how an inmate escaped from the Mission Institution minimum security unit Saturday night.https://globalnews.ca/news/4423451/inmate-serving-time-for-manslaughter-escapes-missions-minimum-security-unit/

    I wonder why he escaped from a minimum security facility ... hmmm .... lets think about.  It could be because he is only serving  a 14 year sentence for  manslaughter, arson, escape, and other offences.  Don't look into to hard. 

    Yah.

    I take a beating every now and then when I refer to murderers and rapists and pedophiles serving piddly amounts of time at a country club for their grievous offences. I've illustrated multiple times very similar situations that are bloody comical.

    For the amount of time and effort we place into investigating, arresting, court proceedings, jury selection (100s of people every day for 2-3 cases), parole hearings, housing, etc. to culminate in these laughable sentences... I think we'd be better off just letting things happen.

    If the old argument 'consequences are not a deterrent' is valid (and we can't stop crimes from happening given people are unconcerned with consequences)... and the pathetically weak sentences we continually dole out hardly resemble justice (not to mention that to some... they're just 'revenge' anyways)... what's the point?
    So you are giving up?  It does seem reasonable to give up.  Why are we so soft on murderers?  I will never understand that.  
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    edited September 2018
    Correctional Service Canada (CSC) is looking into how an inmate escaped from the Mission Institution minimum security unit Saturday night.https://globalnews.ca/news/4423451/inmate-serving-time-for-manslaughter-escapes-missions-minimum-security-unit/

    I wonder why he escaped from a minimum security facility ... hmmm .... lets think about.  It could be because he is only serving  a 14 year sentence for  manslaughter, arson, escape, and other offences.  Don't look into to hard. 

    Yah.

    I take a beating every now and then when I refer to murderers and rapists and pedophiles serving piddly amounts of time at a country club for their grievous offences. I've illustrated multiple times very similar situations that are bloody comical.

    For the amount of time and effort we place into investigating, arresting, court proceedings, jury selection (100s of people every day for 2-3 cases), parole hearings, housing, etc. to culminate in these laughable sentences... I think we'd be better off just letting things happen.

    If the old argument 'consequences are not a deterrent' is valid (and we can't stop crimes from happening given people are unconcerned with consequences)... and the pathetically weak sentences we continually dole out hardly resemble justice (not to mention that to some... they're just 'revenge' anyways)... what's the point?
    So you are giving up?  It does seem reasonable to give up.  Why are we so soft on murderers?  I will never understand that.  
    I wouldn't necessarily say I am giving up.

    My post was tongue in cheek. I would say I am fed up and have been fed up for quite some time.

    We aren't soft. Our lawmakers are soft. Most Canadians- even the most liberal ones around these parts- have grown weary of our judicial system with regards to the 'punishment' aspect of it.

    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Search continues for Calgary killer who walked away from B.C. prison

    https://edmontonjournal.com/news/crime/searches-continues-for-calgary-killer-who-walked-away-from-b-c-prison/wcm/ba8d375c-81fd-4995-9a25-a361c47e3d2e?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1536077553

    In in jail for killing 2 children.  How the fuck do you only get a 14 year sentence for killing 2 kids...the headline is wrong he's been captured.  I'm sure some nice sweet heart judge will add an additional mo
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,756
    Correctional Service Canada (CSC) is looking into how an inmate escaped from the Mission Institution minimum security unit Saturday night.https://globalnews.ca/news/4423451/inmate-serving-time-for-manslaughter-escapes-missions-minimum-security-unit/

    I wonder why he escaped from a minimum security facility ... hmmm .... lets think about.  It could be because he is only serving  a 14 year sentence for  manslaughter, arson, escape, and other offences.  Don't look into to hard. 

    Yah.

    I take a beating every now and then when I refer to murderers and rapists and pedophiles serving piddly amounts of time at a country club for their grievous offences. I've illustrated multiple times very similar situations that are bloody comical.

    For the amount of time and effort we place into investigating, arresting, court proceedings, jury selection (100s of people every day for 2-3 cases), parole hearings, housing, etc. to culminate in these laughable sentences... I think we'd be better off just letting things happen.

    If the old argument 'consequences are not a deterrent' is valid (and we can't stop crimes from happening given people are unconcerned with consequences)... and the pathetically weak sentences we continually dole out hardly resemble justice (not to mention that to some... they're just 'revenge' anyways)... what's the point?
    Where do you "take a beating" Thirty? I can't recall anyone ever disagreeing with the fact that Canada's criminal justice system has a serious problem when it comes to sentencing. I don't understand why you continue to insist that you're some kind of lone wolf when it comes to this issue, when the opposite is true. You seem to think the DP conversation and this one are the same (and equally relevant in Canada), when of course they are not at all.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    edited September 2018
    PJ_Soul said:
    Correctional Service Canada (CSC) is looking into how an inmate escaped from the Mission Institution minimum security unit Saturday night.https://globalnews.ca/news/4423451/inmate-serving-time-for-manslaughter-escapes-missions-minimum-security-unit/

    I wonder why he escaped from a minimum security facility ... hmmm .... lets think about.  It could be because he is only serving  a 14 year sentence for  manslaughter, arson, escape, and other offences.  Don't look into to hard. 

    Yah.

    I take a beating every now and then when I refer to murderers and rapists and pedophiles serving piddly amounts of time at a country club for their grievous offences. I've illustrated multiple times very similar situations that are bloody comical.

    For the amount of time and effort we place into investigating, arresting, court proceedings, jury selection (100s of people every day for 2-3 cases), parole hearings, housing, etc. to culminate in these laughable sentences... I think we'd be better off just letting things happen.

    If the old argument 'consequences are not a deterrent' is valid (and we can't stop crimes from happening given people are unconcerned with consequences)... and the pathetically weak sentences we continually dole out hardly resemble justice (not to mention that to some... they're just 'revenge' anyways)... what's the point?
    Where do you "take a beating" Thirty? I can't recall anyone ever disagreeing with the fact that Canada's criminal justice system has a serious problem when it comes to sentencing. I don't understand why you continue to insist that you're some kind of lone wolf when it comes to this issue, when the opposite is true. You seem to think the DP conversation and this one are the same (and equally relevant in Canada), when of course they are not at all.
    I don't think I'm a lone wolf at all. Where have you established this idea? Goofy.

    That is all. 
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    There is no reason for Bernardo and Russell Williams and more like them to not see the DP...

    Those sick bastards get to relive there crimes everyday their alive.  Executing those scum will take away that from them ...  pointless letting those sick fuckers live...

    Unlike the rest of society ... I would not allow lethal injection ... hanging is perfect. Let them bleed out slowly would suffice.  
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  • There is no reason for Bernardo and Russell Williams and more like them to not see the DP...

    Those sick bastards get to relive there crimes everyday their alive.  Executing those scum will take away that from them ...  pointless letting those sick fuckers live...

    Unlike the rest of society ... I would not allow lethal injection ... hanging is perfect. Let them bleed out slowly would suffice.  

    You wouldn't get any opposition from me here. Absolutely worthless creatures. Worse than parasites.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    There is no reason for Bernardo and Russell Williams and more like them to not see the DP...

    Those sick bastards get to relive there crimes everyday their alive.  Executing those scum will take away that from them ...  pointless letting those sick fuckers live...

    Unlike the rest of society ... I would not allow lethal injection ... hanging is perfect. Let them bleed out slowly would suffice.  

    You wouldn't get any opposition from me here. Absolutely worthless creatures. Worse than parasites.
    Why I mention those 2 specifically ... they video taped the torture and rape of those young ladies...so their guilt is not in dispute.  I live in Chatham, Ontario in 1991 and a young fellow Jason Cofell ( I worked with his dad...his dad was a very nice fellow) killed 2 seniors and their grand son ... He killed the grand son in open field (with a gun), the grandparents were home when Jason Cofell and his accomplished picked this kid up a his grandparents house, after killing the grandson he and his accomplishes went back and stabbed the grandparents to death ... he is now on day parole.  Convicted of 3 counts 1st degree murder is now on day parole.


    Chatham triple murderer Jason Shawn Cofell's day parole extended

    https://lfpress.com/2017/12/07/triple-murderer-becoming-more-integrated-into-society/wcm/99c5129c-5849-0475-e356-fd781ab88d4b
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,756
    There is no reason for Bernardo and Russell Williams and more like them to not see the DP...

    Those sick bastards get to relive there crimes everyday their alive.  Executing those scum will take away that from them ...  pointless letting those sick fuckers live...

    Unlike the rest of society ... I would not allow lethal injection ... hanging is perfect. Let them bleed out slowly would suffice.  
    There is a reason: Civilized nations don't have the DP anymore, for many reasons, which I'm sure you're aware of.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • TalonTedd
    TalonTedd Toronto Posts: 835
    Snap election coming.  Seems like the time is right.  Conservatives still not a cohesive group.  The NDP is coming apart with every word uttered by their leader.  Trump plotting the "ruunation" of Canada.  Something his base can feel good about.  Trans Mountain in shambles.  I think a mandate is logical and necessary at this point.  
    I say do it now.  Get a mandate.  Step away from the miscreants table and put some faith in Congress and the "adults" looking after things in the Whitehouse.  At this point I see Trump imposing auto tariffs as inevitable and mostly because he can.  This will be his benevolent outlet to distract from his miscreant behavior and the tightening cuffs a coming.

    Any thoughts.
    I remember when, yeah. I swore I knew everything, oh yeah.
  • TalonTedd
    TalonTedd Toronto Posts: 835
    Premier Ford (I hate stating that) is going to evoke the notwithstanding clause to ignore a Supreme Court of Ontario decision to strike his I'll conceived mangle job on Toronto city council elections.
    What a jerk.
    This blowhard know nothing at all wont be over ridden by the courts, the Country or the invisible man.  He knows best right.  He was elected with a mandate....to a non existant platform by an electorate grown tired of Liberal rule.  
    What an ass.  Four years of this miscreant.

    I need a drink.

    I remember when, yeah. I swore I knew everything, oh yeah.
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    TalonTedd said:
    Premier Ford (I hate stating that) is going to evoke the notwithstanding clause to ignore a Supreme Court of Ontario decision to strike his I'll conceived mangle job on Toronto city council elections.
    What a jerk.
    This blowhard know nothing at all wont be over ridden by the courts, the Country or the invisible man.  He knows best right.  He was elected with a mandate....to a non existant platform by an electorate grown tired of Liberal rule.  
    What an ass.  Four years of this miscreant.

    I need a drink.

    LMFAO ... he was democratically elected.  The judge was appointed by McGuinty.  Who the fuck argues for more politicians ... Did you bitch when the liberal rammed wind farms down people throats even though municipal governments voted against them...Did you FUCKING BITCH when when BOB RAE rammed the social contract on public sectors unions, how about Harris merging municipalities...it is within the premiers power to do what he has done...


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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739

    Oh never mind, I see you are from the centre of the universe...
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  • TalonTedd
    TalonTedd Toronto Posts: 835
    edited September 2018
    Having another meltdown....
    Apparently the legal expert....you know the Supreme court judge begs to differ. It apparently is against the charter of rights.
    Just saying.
    Post edited by TalonTedd on
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    TalonTedd said:
    Having another meltdown....
    Apparently the legal expert....you know the Supreme court judge begs to differ. It apparently is against the charter of rights.
    Just saying.
    You do know it was not a Supreme Court judge?  It was a a Superior Court judge.  By the way mock my user name all you want...you are the fucking fool.  
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  • TalonTedd
    TalonTedd Toronto Posts: 835
    Sugar pop easy
    If you want to make out no need for the dirty talk.  I'm already hot for ya
    I remember when, yeah. I swore I knew everything, oh yeah.
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    By the way - if you are unhappy with the PC's you can vote them out in 4 years...

    The NDP better find a more desirable leader.  Because after the next election they'll be back to 3rd place where they rightfully belong...

    It is odd, I do not remember seeing that judges name on the ballot.  
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Legal scholars surprised by judge's reasoning in Toronto council cuts decision

    https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/legal-scholars-surprised-by-judge-s-reasoning-in-toronto-council-cuts-decision-1.4087964 


    Richard Moon, a University of Windsor law professor
     who focuses specially on freedom of expression rights, said on Twitter that “the court's reliance on the free expression rights of voters and candidates is problematic for several reasons. It distorts the idea of free expression - and runs contrary to existing SCC decisions.”

    “Free (expression) does not protect the right to run for office -- and in any event no one is prevented from running for office in this case. They may do so but in a larger riding,” Moon added.

    “There is a plausible argument that free (expression) may sometimes protect a right to vote -- although several things complicate this (i) it is a so-called platform -- that is better seen as based on a right to vote in a democratic system (ii) the private nature of voting is a reminder that this is really about representation rather than expression (iii) voters have other ways to express themselves (iv) voters for council still have a right to vote - just in larger ridings,” Moon went on.

    “Finally, it is difficult to contain the claim that voter free expression is compromised by diluting their vote,” Moon concluded. “Why is that not always a problem? Or more to the point how do we determine when dilution is a problem?”


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