Canadian Politics Redux
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PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:PJ_Soul said:Meltdown99 said:PJ_Soul said:Meltdown99 said:PJ_Soul said:Meltdown99 said:
Most cops have no interest in bothering cannabis users or even people who grow small amounts for personal use ... just to much paper work only to see the crown or judge to toss it...
Attitudes are changing, maybe not fast enough for your liking, but people's attitude are changing..."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
As uncertain as the future would look. I'm getting to thinking it time to go all in on NAFTA and call Donald's hand. Let's abandoned the deal. And drop it all on Donald's lap.
Cant stand being Donald's pathetic pinup for Deal destruction. He smears the national relationship to mud. I thought it couldn't get worse than W. Then would be gangster Donald gets the keys to the Hotel.
I think this could be a real nation building moment for us. Not on the level of Nov 11 proportions. Standing up to the miscreant and his frightened little followers would make me proud. Could you imagine the show our personable Prime guy could do with this.
Let's face it. The next administration would more than likely immediately apologize for all this crap and put things right in no time.
And if they didn't....then we would be well on our way with making the changes that will make things better.
Donald is pointing at us. We need to show the world what we're made of and stand up to the golden miscreant.
I support no deal over a bad deal. And the only way to wash this clean is to leave it up to the next White House. Non of this is Canadas doing.I remember when, yeah. I swore I knew everything, oh yeah.0 -
TalonTedd said:That felt very therapeutic. Thanks Blackhawk. If it wasn't for your completely ignorant comment about what I know or don't the inspiration may have never come.
Hard to know just how to respond to what you've shared, but I'm glad it felt therapeutic. You've said a lot of wise things here. That sort of wisdom often comes from pain.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
TalonTedd said:As uncertain as the future would look. I'm getting to thinking it time to go all in on NAFTA and call Donald's hand. Let's abandoned the deal. And drop it all on Donald's lap.
Cant stand being Donald's pathetic pinup for Deal destruction. He smears the national relationship to mud. I thought it couldn't get worse than W. Then would be gangster Donald gets the keys to the Hotel.
I think this could be a real nation building moment for us. Not on the level of Nov 11 proportions. Standing up to the miscreant and his frightened little followers would make me proud. Could you imagine the show our personable Prime guy could do with this.
Let's face it. The next administration would more than likely immediately apologize for all this crap and put things right in no time.
And if they didn't....then we would be well on our way with making the changes that will make things better.
Donald is pointing at us. We need to show the world what we're made of and stand up to the golden miscreant.
I support no deal over a bad deal. And the only way to wash this clean is to leave it up to the next White House. Non of this is Canadas doing."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
I am no fan of NAFTA...
But ALL the experts say it will be bad for Ontario's Auto sector if we are left out of a new trade deal or worse if tariffs are slapped on the Auto sector.
As much as I like talontedd idea of just walking away and telling Trump to go fuck him self I don't think Ontario manufacturers will wait 2 years. Thousands of Ontario jobs could be at stake if we can not get a negotiated settlement.
He needs us on the deal this week in order to submit the new agreement to congress.Give Peas A Chance…0 -
Canada, U.S. planning all-night NAFTA negotiations as optimism for a deal grows
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/freeland-nafta-lighthizer-washington-1.4802992
It appears that negotiators are working hard to get a deal. I am optimistic for a deal. No deal and tariffs placed on our sector would be bad...Give Peas A Chance…0 -
TalonTedd said:That felt very therapeutic. Thanks Blackhawk. If it wasn't for your completely ignorant comment about what I know or don't the inspiration may have never come.Give Peas A Chance…0
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I thought BC was this great liberal province and Ontario was this old conservative province...and you got busted in BC ... lol
Nope never had a problem with the authorities, none of my buddies either. But I live in small towns for most of my life ... small town cops are usually much cooler than those over stressed cops forced to work in cities (cesspools essential).
Legalization will not curtail criminal activity in Canada. Because the government is fucking greedy...Give Peas A Chance…0 -
TalonTedd said:TalonTedd said:blackhawks said:TalonTedd said:Has pot been legalized yet? I can't wait to grow some plants in the garden rite next to my conservative cop neighbor.
He grew up in poverty. He went after his dreams. First cop of a seven generation canadian family. He opened a boxing club and eventually became an Olympic coach and very respected member of the Toronto community. After the 84 Los Angeles games he left the force. He soon became a much better man. Not great but much better. I have come to terms with his actions and hold no grudges. He went after his dreams and I won't sanction him for it. He provided for us and although he was almost never home between copping and boxing. He went after his legacy.
From all this I learned lessons and have made decisions. I followed his footsteps in no way. Not interested in becoming a cop nor coaching everybody else kids. I write this as I watch my youngest play baseball. Never have I ever layed a hand on my children n anger. Only ever in laughing play. Never call them stupid or any of that demeaning ego crushing shit. Come home everyday and spend my time with my wife and children. I have my dad to thank for my happy satisfaction as a father. He showed me his way and I show him mine.
I love and forgive you dad. You sit in front of a TV for hours alone and you go on trips alone because maybe you feel some guilt. I don't know for sure but if that is the case...here is some wise words from one of those fag rock stars....
You can spend your time alone redigesting past regrets
Or you can come to term and realize your the only one who cannot forgive yourself oh yeah
Makes much more sense to live in the Present Tense.
I forgive you
P.S. Come spend time meaningful time with your grandboys. Time waits for no one.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Meltdown99 said:I thought BC was this great liberal province and Ontario was this old conservative province...and you got busted in BC ... lol
Nope never had a problem with the authorities, none of my buddies either. But I live in small towns for most of my life ... small town cops are usually much cooler than those over stressed cops forced to work in cities (cesspools essential).
Legalization will not curtail criminal activity in Canada. Because the government is fucking greedy...
Post edited by PJ_Soul onWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
I came here fully expecting that this would be the big conversation of the day already!
https://business.financialpost.com/commodities/energy/trans-mountain-pipeline-approval-quashed-by-courtTrans Mountain pipeline approval quashed by court
Kinder Morgan shareholders approve the sale of the project to Ottawa with 99% support less than an hour after the ruling
CALGARY — The Federal Court of Appeal dealt the Trans Mountain expansion project a major setback Thursday, ruling the government of Canada had not fulfilled its duty to consult with First Nations on the pipeline from Alberta to British Columbia.
The decision means the National Energy Board will have to redo its review of Kinder Morgan Canada’s project. In a written decision, the court says the energy board’s review was so flawed that the federal government could not rely on it as a basis for its decision to approve the expansion.
The court also concludes that the federal government failed in its duty to engage in meaningful consultations with First Nations before giving the green light to the project. That decision means the government will have to redo part of its consultations with Indigenous groups.
The judge wrote that “the consultation framework selected by Canada was reasonable and sufficient. If Canada properly executed it, Canada would have discharged its duty to consult.”
“However, based on the totality of the evidence I conclude that Canada failed in Phase III to engage, dialogue meaningfully and grapple with the concerns expressed to it in good faith by the Indigenous applicants so as to explore possible accommodation of these concerns,” the ruling states. See the full court document below.
The Trans Mountain expansion would add shipments of 590,000 barrels of oil per day from Alberta to British Columbia by twinning an existing pipeline at an expected cost of $7.4 billion.
Kinder Morgan, which continues to own the pipeline until its sale to the federal government closes, has released potential cases that could cause the project’s price tag to rise to either $8.4 billion or $9.3 billion depending on construction schedules.
Protesters opposed to the Kinder Morgan Trans Mountain pipeline extension defy a court order and block an entrance to the company’s property in April. Canadian Press/Darryl DyckKinder Morgan shareholders approved the sale of the pipeline with more than 99 per cent support Thursday, less than an hour after the federal government learned the pipeline construction permits had been quashed.
“No matter who owns this pipeline and tanker project, it will be stopped,” president of the Union of B.C. Indian Chiefs and Grand Chief Stewart Phillip said in a release.
“Kinder Morgan executives recognized Justin Trudeau’s desperation to placate the oil lobby and are exiting the project with massive profits on the backs of Canadian taxpayers,” he said.
Data from the Angus Reid Institute shows that Canada-wide support for the construction of the Trans Mountain expansion project has grown steadily over the course of the year — from 49 per cent of respondents in favour of the pipeline in February to 57 per cent in June.
Similarly, the number of respondents saying they opposed the project dropped from 33 per cent to 26 per cent over the same time period.
Angus Reid also found in June that 56 per cent of respondents in British Columbia said they opposed their provincial government’s attempts to block the pipeline project from being built.
An aerial view of Kinder Morgan’s Trans Mountain marine terminal, in Burnaby, B.C. Canadian Press/Jonathan HaywardCabinet approved the Trans Mountain expansion on November 29, 2016, after the NEB suggested that project proponent Kinder Morgan had met its duty to consult.
The Federal Court decision will effectively compel the NEB to repeat the third phase of its consultation process, which it carried out between February and November, 2016.
The NEB has not taken marine traffic implications into account in its prior decisions.
The regulator had argued that “since marine shipping was beyond its regulatory authority, it did not have the ability to impose specific mitigation conditions to address environmental effects” of increased marine traffic, Dawson wrote in her remarks.
In recent years the NEB has been hobbled by broader questions about what should be the scope of its approval process. Last year, TransCanada Corp. halted its Energy East project after the NEB unexpectedly announced it would include downstream emissions in its environmental review of the pipeline.
With files from Financial Post’s Jesse Snyder, Calgary Herald’s Amanda Stephenson and Canadian Press
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
PJ_Soul said:I came here fully expecting that this would be the big conversation of the day already!
https://business.financialpost.com/commodities/energy/trans-mountain-pipeline-approval-quashed-by-courtTrans Mountain pipeline approval quashed by court
Kinder Morgan shareholders approve the sale of the project to Ottawa with 99% support less than an hour after the ruling
CALGARY — The Federal Court of Appeal dealt the Trans Mountain expansion project a major setback Thursday, ruling the government of Canada had not fulfilled its duty to consult with First Nations on the pipeline from Alberta to British Columbia.
The decision means the National Energy Board will have to redo its review of Kinder Morgan Canada’s project. In a written decision, the court says the energy board’s review was so flawed that the federal government could not rely on it as a basis for its decision to approve the expansion.
The court also concludes that the federal government failed in its duty to engage in meaningful consultations with First Nations before giving the green light to the project. That decision means the government will have to redo part of its consultations with Indigenous groups.
The judge wrote that “the consultation framework selected by Canada was reasonable and sufficient. If Canada properly executed it, Canada would have discharged its duty to consult.”
“However, based on the totality of the evidence I conclude that Canada failed in Phase III to engage, dialogue meaningfully and grapple with the concerns expressed to it in good faith by the Indigenous applicants so as to explore possible accommodation of these concerns,” the ruling states. See the full court document below.
The Trans Mountain expansion would add shipments of 590,000 barrels of oil per day from Alberta to British Columbia by twinning an existing pipeline at an expected cost of $7.4 billion.
Kinder Morgan, which continues to own the pipeline until its sale to the federal government closes, has released potential cases that could cause the project’s price tag to rise to either $8.4 billion or $9.3 billion depending on construction schedules.
Protesters opposed to the Kinder Morgan Trans Mountain pipeline extension defy a court order and block an entrance to the company’s property in April. Canadian Press/Darryl DyckKinder Morgan shareholders approved the sale of the pipeline with more than 99 per cent support Thursday, less than an hour after the federal government learned the pipeline construction permits had been quashed.
“No matter who owns this pipeline and tanker project, it will be stopped,” president of the Union of B.C. Indian Chiefs and Grand Chief Stewart Phillip said in a release.
“Kinder Morgan executives recognized Justin Trudeau’s desperation to placate the oil lobby and are exiting the project with massive profits on the backs of Canadian taxpayers,” he said.
Data from the Angus Reid Institute shows that Canada-wide support for the construction of the Trans Mountain expansion project has grown steadily over the course of the year — from 49 per cent of respondents in favour of the pipeline in February to 57 per cent in June.
Similarly, the number of respondents saying they opposed the project dropped from 33 per cent to 26 per cent over the same time period.
Angus Reid also found in June that 56 per cent of respondents in British Columbia said they opposed their provincial government’s attempts to block the pipeline project from being built.
An aerial view of Kinder Morgan’s Trans Mountain marine terminal, in Burnaby, B.C. Canadian Press/Jonathan HaywardCabinet approved the Trans Mountain expansion on November 29, 2016, after the NEB suggested that project proponent Kinder Morgan had met its duty to consult.
The Federal Court decision will effectively compel the NEB to repeat the third phase of its consultation process, which it carried out between February and November, 2016.
The NEB has not taken marine traffic implications into account in its prior decisions.
The regulator had argued that “since marine shipping was beyond its regulatory authority, it did not have the ability to impose specific mitigation conditions to address environmental effects” of increased marine traffic, Dawson wrote in her remarks.
In recent years the NEB has been hobbled by broader questions about what should be the scope of its approval process. Last year, TransCanada Corp. halted its Energy East project after the NEB unexpectedly announced it would include downstream emissions in its environmental review of the pipeline.
With files from Financial Post’s Jesse Snyder, Calgary Herald’s Amanda Stephenson and Canadian Press
"The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."
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I remember everyone going off about this problem with the consultations; I and I think everyone else against the pipeline kept asking "but what about this?!" .... and it was all completely ignored by the Feds and by the Alberta government. Ignored at best. Some actually scoffed. I guess they all figured this appeal would fail??? Or, maybe more likely, didn't and still don't care because they feel confident they can bulldoze through any court rulings against it one way or the other.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Meltdown99 said:Canada, U.S. planning all-night NAFTA negotiations as optimism for a deal grows
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/freeland-nafta-lighthizer-washington-1.4802992
It appears that negotiators are working hard to get a deal. I am optimistic for a deal. No deal and tariffs placed on our sector would be bad...
Really hope we don't open up our markets to their milk and meats at the expense and detriment of our farmers. Supply management is a national security issue as far as I'm concerned. Doing anything that kills farming in this era of climate upheaval seems foolish. Not to mention the science experiment the US food system is...I wont buy it.I remember when, yeah. I swore I knew everything, oh yeah.0 -
Thanks to all for your advice and support on the other posts.....
Back to Canada....I remember when, yeah. I swore I knew everything, oh yeah.0 -
Good grief ... budgets balance themselves, maybe trade negotiate themselves and maybe pipelines build themselves ... oh yeah, veterans are more than we can give ... always got money to bail out corporations.Give Peas A Chance…0 -
'It is a crisis': Notley says she's pulling Alberta out of federal climate plan
https://nationalpost.com/news/cp-newsalert-notley-pulling-alberta-out-of-federal-climate-plan?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1535676391
We have a crisis with the pipeline, crisis with NAFTA ... Can PM Fluff handle 2 crisis at once...not counting on it.
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Edmonton security guard who kicked man to death says he was 'involuntarily celibate,' frustrated with
work
https://nationalpost.com/news/crime/security-guard-who-kicked-man-to-death-says-he-was-involuntarily-celibate/wcm/dc78e759-eb3a-46ad-bef2-a04ac664e356
... 4 fucking years, what fucking joke...Give Peas A Chance…0 -
On a side note ... it's enjoyable watching the leftist Notley, whatever the name that call the leftist running BC GRNDP (is that the party name running BC) and of course PM Fluff ... LMFAO ... good shit, taking some of the boredom out of Canadian Politics...Give Peas A Chance…0 -
Notley says turning off the pipeline that supplies BC is now a possibility. She threatened East as well ... What. Let the oil and us in Ontario turn it off a the Quebec border ... lol. Her fight is with BC and Quebec farther East ...
Pretty sure Sask, Man and Ontario are fine with pipelines...Give Peas A Chance…0
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