TalonTedd said:

 As uncertain as the future would look.  I'm getting to thinking it time to go all in on NAFTA and call Donald's hand.  Let's abandoned the deal.  And drop it all on Donald's lap.
Cant stand being Donald's pathetic pinup for Deal destruction.   He smears the national relationship to mud.  I thought it couldn't get worse than W.  Then would be gangster Donald gets the keys to the Hotel.
I think this could be a real nation building moment for us.  Not on the level of Nov 11 proportions.  Standing up to the miscreant and his frightened little followers would make me proud. Could you imagine the show our personable Prime guy could do with this.

Let's face it.  The next administration would more than likely immediately apologize for all this crap and put things right in no time.
And if they didn't....then we would be well on our way with making the changes that will make things better.

Donald is pointing at us.  We need to show the world what we're made of and stand up to the golden miscreant.  
I support no deal over a bad deal.  And the only way to wash this clean is to leave it up to the next White House.  Non of this is Canadas doing.

PJ_Soul said:

I came here fully expecting that this would be the big conversation of the day already!

https://business.financialpost.com/commodities/energy/trans-mountain-pipeline-approval-quashed-by-court

Trans Mountain pipeline approval quashed by court

Kinder Morgan shareholders approve the sale of the project to Ottawa with 99% support less than an hour after the ruling

CALGARY — The Federal Court of Appeal dealt the Trans Mountain expansion project a major setback Thursday, ruling the government of Canada had not fulfilled its duty to consult with First Nations on the pipeline from Alberta to British Columbia.

The decision means the National Energy Board will have to redo its review of Kinder Morgan Canada’s project. In a written decision, the court says the energy board’s review was so flawed that the federal government could not rely on it as a basis for its decision to approve the expansion.

The court also concludes that the federal government failed in its duty to engage in meaningful consultations with First Nations before giving the green light to the project. That decision means the government will have to redo part of its consultations with Indigenous groups.

The judge wrote that “the consultation framework selected by Canada was reasonable and sufficient. If Canada properly executed it, Canada would have discharged its duty to consult.”

“However, based on the totality of the evidence I conclude that Canada failed in Phase III to engage, dialogue meaningfully and grapple with the concerns expressed to it in good faith by the Indigenous applicants so as to explore possible accommodation of these concerns,” the ruling states. See the full court document below.

The Trans Mountain expansion would add shipments of 590,000 barrels of oil per day from Alberta to British Columbia by twinning an existing pipeline at an expected cost of $7.4 billion.

Kinder Morgan, which continues to own the pipeline until its sale to the federal government closes, has released potential cases that could cause the project’s price tag to rise to either $8.4 billion or $9.3 billion depending on construction schedules.

Protesters opposed to the Kinder Morgan Trans Mountain pipeline extension defy a court order and block an entrance to the company’s property in April. Canadian Press/Darryl Dyck

Kinder Morgan shareholders approved the sale of the pipeline with more than 99 per cent support Thursday, less than an hour after the federal government learned the pipeline construction permits had been quashed.

“No matter who owns this pipeline and tanker project, it will be stopped,” president of the Union of B.C. Indian Chiefs and Grand Chief Stewart Phillip said in a release.

“Kinder Morgan executives recognized Justin Trudeau’s desperation to placate the oil lobby and are exiting the project with massive profits on the backs of Canadian taxpayers,” he said.

Data from the Angus Reid Institute shows that Canada-wide support for the construction of the Trans Mountain expansion project has grown steadily over the course of the year — from 49 per cent of respondents in favour of the pipeline in February to 57 per cent in June.

Similarly, the number of respondents saying they opposed the project dropped from 33 per cent to 26 per cent over the same time period.

Angus Reid also found in June that 56 per cent of respondents in British Columbia said they opposed their provincial government’s attempts to block the pipeline project from being built.

An aerial view of Kinder Morgan’s Trans Mountain marine terminal, in Burnaby, B.C. Canadian Press/Jonathan Hayward

Cabinet approved the Trans Mountain expansion on November 29, 2016, after the NEB suggested that project proponent Kinder Morgan had met its duty to consult.

The Federal Court decision will effectively compel the NEB to repeat the third phase of its consultation process, which it carried out between February and November, 2016.

The NEB has not taken marine traffic implications into account in its prior decisions.

The regulator had argued that “since marine shipping was beyond its regulatory authority, it did not have the ability to impose specific mitigation conditions to address environmental effects” of increased marine traffic, Dawson wrote in her remarks.

In recent years the NEB has been hobbled by broader questions about what should be the scope of its approval process. Last year, TransCanada Corp. halted its Energy East project after the NEB unexpectedly announced it would include downstream emissions in its environmental review of the pipeline.

With files from Financial Post’s Jesse Snyder, Calgary Herald’s Amanda Stephenson and Canadian Press

Meltdown99 said:

Canada, U.S. planning all-night NAFTA negotiations as optimism for a deal grows

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/freeland-nafta-lighthizer-washington-1.4802992

It appears that negotiators are working hard to get a deal.  I am optimistic for a deal.  No deal and tariffs placed on our sector would be bad...