Donald Trump
Comments
-
I've never heard the phrase monkey up. I have heard little monkey and monkeying around ... but not all were in a racial context...rgambs said:What kind of a goober actually says "monkey ____ up" is what I want to know.Give Peas A Chance…0 -
I have heard monkey around. I can see how someone, even someone eloquent, could accidentally use that phrase in relation to black people...the thing is though, you'd need to be pretty stupid or racist not to realize what you'd done and correct yourself immediately in real time.Meltdown99 said:
I've never heard the phrase monkey up. I have heard little monkey and monkeying around ... but not all were in a racial context...rgambs said:What kind of a goober actually says "monkey ____ up" is what I want to know.
So this guy is an idiot at the least.
Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
Don't worry before November this guy will stick his foot in his mouth !jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
-
It's a brand new birther movement by Trump, apparently.
U.S. is denying passports to Americans along the border, throwing their citizenship into question
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/us-is-denying-passports-to-americans-along-the-border-throwing-their-citizenship-into-question/2018/08/29/1d630e84-a0da-11e8-a3dd-2a1991f075d5_story.html?utm_term=.0ca5753bcdb3&wpisrc=al_news__alert-politics--alert-national&wpmk=1
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
-
Have you ever heard "monkeying around" said in a racial context??Meltdown99 said:
I've never heard the phrase monkey up. I have heard little monkey and monkeying around ... but not all were in a racial context...rgambs said:What kind of a goober actually says "monkey ____ up" is what I want to know.
I've personally never heard anyone ever come close to using "monkey" in a that context, period.... To be honest, I've never heard anyone use any racial slur against black people, like in real life, unless they were quoting someone they saw do it or something. I had a great grandmother who reportedly said, "Oh, look at the cute little (P-word)!" about a little black kid in an all white town, but that was back in 1958 or so.
(That said, yes, I am still fully aware of the racial problems going on, and have known black Americans who talked to me all about it - they were in Canada specifically to escape it. So I do know people do it).
Post edited by PJ_Soul onWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
What’s the P word for black people?PJ_Soul said:
Have you ever heard "monkeying around" said in a racial context??Meltdown99 said:
I've never heard the phrase monkey up. I have heard little monkey and monkeying around ... but not all were in a racial context...rgambs said:What kind of a goober actually says "monkey ____ up" is what I want to know.
I've personally never heard anyone ever come close to using "monkey" in a that context, period.... To be honest, I've never heard anyone use any racial slur against black people, like in real life, unless they were quoting someone they saw do it or something. I had a great grandmother who reportedly said, "Oh, look at the cute little (P-word)!" about a little black kid in an all white town, but that was back in 1958 or so.
(That said, yes, I am still fully aware of the racial problems going on, and have known black Americans who talked to me all about it - they were in Canada specifically to escape it. So I do know people do it).www.myspace.com0 -
Starts with a pick and ends with a y.The Juggler said:
What’s the P word for black people?PJ_Soul said:
Have you ever heard "monkeying around" said in a racial context??Meltdown99 said:
I've never heard the phrase monkey up. I have heard little monkey and monkeying around ... but not all were in a racial context...rgambs said:What kind of a goober actually says "monkey ____ up" is what I want to know.
I've personally never heard anyone ever come close to using "monkey" in a that context, period.... To be honest, I've never heard anyone use any racial slur against black people, like in real life, unless they were quoting someone they saw do it or something. I had a great grandmother who reportedly said, "Oh, look at the cute little (P-word)!" about a little black kid in an all white town, but that was back in 1958 or so.
(That said, yes, I am still fully aware of the racial problems going on, and have known black Americans who talked to me all about it - they were in Canada specifically to escape it. So I do know people do it).
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
I grew up surrounded by every racial slur you can imagine, porch monkeys was a big one.PJ_Soul said:
Have you ever heard "monkeying around" said in a racial context??Meltdown99 said:
I've never heard the phrase monkey up. I have heard little monkey and monkeying around ... but not all were in a racial context...rgambs said:What kind of a goober actually says "monkey ____ up" is what I want to know.
I've personally never heard anyone ever come close to using "monkey" in a that context, period.... To be honest, I've never heard anyone use any racial slur against black people, like in real life, unless they were quoting someone they saw do it or something. I had a great grandmother who reportedly said, "Oh, look at the cute little (P-word)!" about a little black kid in an all white town, but that was back in 1958 or so.
(That said, yes, I am still fully aware of the racial problems going on, and have known black Americans who talked to me all about it - they were in Canada specifically to escape it. So I do know people do it).
"N***** rig it" was probably the most common. Hell, I heard a middle school teacher say it once!
I was recently warned (by a retired home economics lady teacher) not to go to Kennywood Amusement Park because "the blacks have taken it over. They push white people out of line and start fights"
Later, when we were gently mocking it's very dubious nature, she doubled down and said it was easy to believe because the same thing happened at Strolling N*****s Mall (Rolling Acres Mall)
That lady is someone I love dearly and she's a great person who would never actually mistreat a black person without reason. That's what people don't understand about casual racism in America, it's not like we have tens of millions of evil people. They aren't evil, just ignorant and stubborn.
This is why I laugh my ass off when the professor from Canada, Mr BS claims to know what an average Trump voter is, and better than any of us. What a joke lol
If you haven't ever been told to "n***** rig it" or been accused upon late entry of living on "BPT" (black people time)...you don't know shit about the average Trump voter/supporter.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
I think I understand Trump supporters about as well anyone - what you're saying is not surprising to me.rgambs said:
I grew up surrounded by every racial slur you can imagine, porch monkeys was a big one.PJ_Soul said:
Have you ever heard "monkeying around" said in a racial context??Meltdown99 said:
I've never heard the phrase monkey up. I have heard little monkey and monkeying around ... but not all were in a racial context...rgambs said:What kind of a goober actually says "monkey ____ up" is what I want to know.
I've personally never heard anyone ever come close to using "monkey" in a that context, period.... To be honest, I've never heard anyone use any racial slur against black people, like in real life, unless they were quoting someone they saw do it or something. I had a great grandmother who reportedly said, "Oh, look at the cute little (P-word)!" about a little black kid in an all white town, but that was back in 1958 or so.
(That said, yes, I am still fully aware of the racial problems going on, and have known black Americans who talked to me all about it - they were in Canada specifically to escape it. So I do know people do it).
"N***** rig it" was probably the most common. Hell, I heard a middle school teacher say it once!
I was recently warned (by a retired home economics lady teacher) not to go to Kennywood Amusement Park because "the blacks have taken it over. They push white people out of line and start fights"
Later, when we were gently mocking it's very dubious nature, she doubled down and said it was easy to believe because the same thing happened at Strolling N*****s Mall (Rolling Acres Mall)
That lady is someone I love dearly and she's a great person who would never actually mistreat a black person without reason. That's what people don't understand about casual racism in America, it's not like we have tens of millions of evil people. They aren't evil, just ignorant and stubborn.
This is why I laugh my ass off when the professor from Canada, Mr BS claims to know what an average Trump voter is, and better than any of us. What a joke lol
If you haven't ever been told to "n***** rig it" or been accused upon late entry of living on "BPT" (black people time)...you don't know shit about the average Trump voter/supporter.
FWIW, I have absolutely known people like that, it's just that they hate East Indians and/or Chinese people rather than black people. Different slurs altogether. Luckily such people are very few and far between here though, and I gather that isn't the case in some communities in the US. Although I do hear that the racism towards First Nations is really, really horrid farther east. It's not so bad in BC, but I am told all kinds of heinous stories about it by people from Ontario and a lot of the prairies.
People are the worst.
Post edited by PJ_Soul onWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Porch ......? Nah that can’t be right.PJ_Soul said:
Starts with a pick and ends with a y.The Juggler said:
What’s the P word for black people?PJ_Soul said:
Have you ever heard "monkeying around" said in a racial context??Meltdown99 said:
I've never heard the phrase monkey up. I have heard little monkey and monkeying around ... but not all were in a racial context...rgambs said:What kind of a goober actually says "monkey ____ up" is what I want to know.
I've personally never heard anyone ever come close to using "monkey" in a that context, period.... To be honest, I've never heard anyone use any racial slur against black people, like in real life, unless they were quoting someone they saw do it or something. I had a great grandmother who reportedly said, "Oh, look at the cute little (P-word)!" about a little black kid in an all white town, but that was back in 1958 or so.
(That said, yes, I am still fully aware of the racial problems going on, and have known black Americans who talked to me all about it - they were in Canada specifically to escape it. So I do know people do it).
Am I the only one who can’t figure this out?www.myspace.com0 -
Rolling acres? Beenclosed forever no? Unless not the one in Akron.rgambs said:
I grew up surrounded by every racial slur you can imagine, porch monkeys was a big one.PJ_Soul said:
Have you ever heard "monkeying around" said in a racial context??Meltdown99 said:
I've never heard the phrase monkey up. I have heard little monkey and monkeying around ... but not all were in a racial context...rgambs said:What kind of a goober actually says "monkey ____ up" is what I want to know.
I've personally never heard anyone ever come close to using "monkey" in a that context, period.... To be honest, I've never heard anyone use any racial slur against black people, like in real life, unless they were quoting someone they saw do it or something. I had a great grandmother who reportedly said, "Oh, look at the cute little (P-word)!" about a little black kid in an all white town, but that was back in 1958 or so.
(That said, yes, I am still fully aware of the racial problems going on, and have known black Americans who talked to me all about it - they were in Canada specifically to escape it. So I do know people do it).
"N***** rig it" was probably the most common. Hell, I heard a middle school teacher say it once!
I was recently warned (by a retired home economics lady teacher) not to go to Kennywood Amusement Park because "the blacks have taken it over. They push white people out of line and start fights"
Later, when we were gently mocking it's very dubious nature, she doubled down and said it was easy to believe because the same thing happened at Strolling N*****s Mall (Rolling Acres Mall)
That lady is someone I love dearly and she's a great person who would never actually mistreat a black person without reason. That's what people don't understand about casual racism in America, it's not like we have tens of millions of evil people. They aren't evil, just ignorant and stubborn.
This is why I laugh my ass off when the professor from Canada, Mr BS claims to know what an average Trump voter is, and better than any of us. What a joke lol
If you haven't ever been told to "n***** rig it" or been accused upon late entry of living on "BPT" (black people time)...you don't know shit about the average Trump voter/supporter.hippiemom = goodness0 -
-
It’s surrounded by a big ocean, you know? A big, big ocean.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.
Brilliantati©0 -
PJ_Soul said:
I think I understand Trump supporters about as well anyone - what you're saying is not surprising to me.rgambs said:
I grew up surrounded by every racial slur you can imagine, porch monkeys was a big one.PJ_Soul said:
Have you ever heard "monkeying around" said in a racial context??Meltdown99 said:
I've never heard the phrase monkey up. I have heard little monkey and monkeying around ... but not all were in a racial context...rgambs said:What kind of a goober actually says "monkey ____ up" is what I want to know.
I've personally never heard anyone ever come close to using "monkey" in a that context, period.... To be honest, I've never heard anyone use any racial slur against black people, like in real life, unless they were quoting someone they saw do it or something. I had a great grandmother who reportedly said, "Oh, look at the cute little (P-word)!" about a little black kid in an all white town, but that was back in 1958 or so.
(That said, yes, I am still fully aware of the racial problems going on, and have known black Americans who talked to me all about it - they were in Canada specifically to escape it. So I do know people do it).
"N***** rig it" was probably the most common. Hell, I heard a middle school teacher say it once!
I was recently warned (by a retired home economics lady teacher) not to go to Kennywood Amusement Park because "the blacks have taken it over. They push white people out of line and start fights"
Later, when we were gently mocking it's very dubious nature, she doubled down and said it was easy to believe because the same thing happened at Strolling N*****s Mall (Rolling Acres Mall)
That lady is someone I love dearly and she's a great person who would never actually mistreat a black person without reason. That's what people don't understand about casual racism in America, it's not like we have tens of millions of evil people. They aren't evil, just ignorant and stubborn.
This is why I laugh my ass off when the professor from Canada, Mr BS claims to know what an average Trump voter is, and better than any of us. What a joke lol
If you haven't ever been told to "n***** rig it" or been accused upon late entry of living on "BPT" (black people time)...you don't know shit about the average Trump voter/supporter.
FWIW, I have absolutely known people like that, it's just that they hate East Indians and/or Chinese people rather than black people. Different slurs altogether. Luckily such people are very few and far between here though, and I gather that isn't the case in some communities in the US. Although I do hear that the racism towards First Nations is really, really horrid farther east. It's not so bad in BC, but I am told all kinds of heinous stories about it by people from Ontario and a lot of the prairies.
People are the worst.
I will not say I know for sure that it was a racial slur, but isn't it damn ironic hours after he learns he is facing an African American opponent, the monkey word comes out of his mouth?
What I will say, I'd bet in one of his late night celebrations, perhaps one of his long time pals over some drinks uttered a word or vague thought like that. I'm giving that 51% odds.
What I will say, a common racial slur was on his mind in his first national interview on fox on the day after his primary win, whether or not it was intended as a slur.
If you have an example of a republican candidate using a "monkeying around" type comment when facing an African American opponent, I'd be interested to read it.0 -
This^Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
If you still support the piece of shit that resides in the White House, you are seriously out of touch.I LOVE MUSIC.
www.cluthelee.com
www.cluthe.com0 -
Oh, they’re in touch, all right. They’re actively agreeing with and supporting Team Trump Treason.mfc2006 said:
This^Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
If you still support the piece of shit that resides in the White House, you are seriously out of touch.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.
Brilliantati©0 -
If you support a racist in any way, shape, or form that makes you a racist as well.0
-
Looking at this whole thread at once, because I was too busy at work today to be on the forum at all, makes me think that those of us in Canada thankfully don't have the direct experience with the casual racism toward black people that is still prevalent in a lot of the US, like rgambs describes. We hear "monkey" and don't immediately hear it as a racial slur, because we don't have the same historical context. Not that we don't have racism and racial slurs, they're just different; this one doesn't resonate immediately with us.PJ_Soul said:
I still don't get it. I have no clue why any of you are just assuming it was a racial slur. 100 people could come and say the same thing, and I still wouldn't get why that's the immediate assumption, all things considered.Meltdown99 said:I will have to side with Juggler and Hailifax on this one...
I myself use the phrase little monkey, but I'm referring to my dog...she acts like a little monkey sometimes.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0
This discussion has been closed.
Categories
- All Categories
- 148.9K Pearl Jam's Music and Activism
- 110.1K The Porch
- 274 Vitalogy
- 35K Given To Fly (live)
- 3.5K Words and Music...Communication
- 39.2K Flea Market
- 39.2K Lost Dogs
- 58.7K Not Pearl Jam's Music
- 10.6K Musicians and Gearheads
- 29.1K Other Music
- 17.8K Poetry, Prose, Music & Art
- 1.1K The Art Wall
- 56.8K Non-Pearl Jam Discussion
- 22.2K A Moving Train
- 31.7K All Encompassing Trip
- 2.9K Technical Stuff and Help