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    mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,385
    DEMS need to step up and enforce the subpoenas. I think it's time to play hardball.
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,894
    mfc2006 said:
    DEMS need to step up and enforce the subpoenas. I think it's time to play hardball.
    and it's really not even hardball. it's just ball. 
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    The option is a lawless society going forward.   LAWLESS.
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,340
    Democrats are afraid of the Baffoon they’ve never had to deal with a street thug before ..
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    njnancynjnancy Northern New Jersey Posts: 5,096
    edited May 2019
    The Democrats have been put in a position where a lot of the enforcement that they need would have to go through the DOJ so their other choice would be the judicial and they'd have to figure out a perfect legal argument to force the WH to adhere to the rule of law. 

    Trump is begging for them to start impeach proceedings. He could use his victim and presidential harassment lines on twitter and to his loving rally crowds (how the hell did anyone allow these to become a thing that a President could do?). It is a big con. Plus Dems don't have the balls that the Repubs do. 

    If they were to start impeachment proceedings though, they would be able to get all of the documentation that they need and be able to get whomever they want to testify because it is taken out of the DOJ's hands when it is an impeachment hearing. So though it would play into Trump's hands every freaking day, the effect of the testimony they would be able to get might lead to a change in public perception about impeaching Trump.

    This is what happened with Nixon. The public was with him until they started to hear people testifying in the impeachment hearings. When public support shifted, the Republicans then shifted and told Nixon he had to resign. Not sure how that would work in Dear Leaders case, but there needs to be a time when they stop allowing the administration to steal their lunch and just do their Constitutional duty. If they don't, we're going to start to see Congressional investigations into HIllary Clinton and Obama and ...... 

    And things like arresting Barr are not as easy as they sound. He has security assigned to him and it would be a stand off between Capitol Police and his Security Detail. There are no easy answers when an administration just decides to blow up the Constitution so impeach and hope for the best. It's better than looking like wimps. And getting called out as wimps by Repubs. 
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    njnancynjnancy Northern New Jersey Posts: 5,096
    The Democrats are now in direct talks with Mueller about testifying. They have both gone over the head of the DOJ and gone to direct talks.
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    mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,385
    njnancy said:
    The Democrats are now in direct talks with Mueller about testifying. They have both gone over the head of the DOJ and gone to direct talks.
    Good.

    mfc2006 said:
    DEMS need to step up and enforce the subpoenas. I think it's time to play hardball.
    and it's really not even hardball. it's just ball. 
    No doubt....I just can't fucking believe what's going on.
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    njnancynjnancy Northern New Jersey Posts: 5,096
    edited May 2019
    mfc2006 said:
    njnancy said:
    The Democrats are now in direct talks with Mueller about testifying. They have both gone over the head of the DOJ and gone to direct talks.
    Good.

    mfc2006 said:
    DEMS need to step up and enforce the subpoenas. I think it's time to play hardball.
    and it's really not even hardball. it's just ball. 
    No doubt....I just can't fucking believe what's going on.
    It's infuriating because Trump and his people are so obviously saying screw you to the Constitution. And the Dems are trying to remedy this within the rule of law when Trump is not following any of these laws. 

    I know that we say impeach, arrest - but imagine how flummoxed the Democrats are knowing that this is wrong but also knowing that they will be opposed at every turn and the WH will use every delay tactic to make this run to 2020 and time is up.

    The WH lawyer, Emmet Flood, has written a letter to Barr today saying that the President has instructed everyone to disobey subpoenas. He also wrote a letter criticizing  Mueller and his report saying that he had no right to lay out a  roadmap to impeachment for Congress in his report.

    Mueller testifying before Congress without any care of the DOJ's opinion is laid out in the Special Counsel rules as an emergency procedure. He would be able to give testimony as to the crimes that the President committed and hopefully the idea that a President cannot be indicted will be banished forever. 

    For those who have asked - this is a Constitutional Crisis. When the rules set out in the Constitution are not followed and there is no remedy laid out to fix it. The President has declared in action and in words essentially that he is above the law. And his administration is saying that they do not have to follow the laws.  The enforcement tactics in the Constitution are being ignored.  Impeachment & Contempt of Congress are in the Constitution but they did not foresee a portion of Congress who would just allow the WH to ignore the Constitution. He has broken his oath of office. 


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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,340
    Baffoon is daring the Democrats to do something about this, this administration is basically telling the Democrats “ you and what army “ they haven’t complied with one single request from the House Democrats zero none they are running this country as if they make the laws and fuck the constitution..
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,702
    And what if no one was around to report on Team Trump Treason surpassing 10,000 lies or misleading statements since taking the oath of office?

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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    Again...Trump/Barr also did/is doing this...


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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,132
    ikiT said:
    Again...Trump/Barr also did/is doing this...


    This is a nice article about immigration and their rights under the constitution:

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/what-constitutional-rights-do-undocumented-immigrants-have

    Because that question had entered my mind before...and I've heard other say as well that they aren't citizens so they aren't protected.  But the word choice in the Constitution matters.  "Citizen" and "person" are different.  But many protections are afforded to persons.  And to be afforded those protections you only need to be a person on american soil.
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,340
    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/05/03/politics/trump-putin-phone-call-mueller-report/index.html
    lol he discussed the report with his master lol go ahead Democrats what are you gonna do ! 
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    jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/05/03/politics/trump-putin-phone-call-mueller-report/index.html
    lol he discussed the report with his master lol go ahead Democrats what are you gonna do ! 
    Sarah's a fucking liar. "She would not directly answer questions from reporters on whether Russian interference, as shown in the Mueller report, was discussed between Trump and Putin, only saying, "the conversation on that part was very quick, but what I can tell you is that this administration, unlike the previous one, takes election meddling seriously. And we're going to do everything that we can to prevent it from happening. That's why we've taken a whole-of-government approach."

    They take election meddling seriously? Trump accepted Putin's word over our intelligence community. And yesterday we learned:

    President Trump Is Spending $20 Billion on an Aircraft Carrier. The Navy Wanted That Money for Cybersecurity

    “We find the Department of the Navy preparing to win some future kinetic battle, while it is losing the current global, counter-force, counter-value, cyber war,” the report says.
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    KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,775
    I'd bet he'll want that ship named after him. 

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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,894
    jeffbr said:
    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/05/03/politics/trump-putin-phone-call-mueller-report/index.html
    lol he discussed the report with his master lol go ahead Democrats what are you gonna do ! 
    Sarah's a fucking liar. "She would not directly answer questions from reporters on whether Russian interference, as shown in the Mueller report, was discussed between Trump and Putin, only saying, "the conversation on that part was very quick, but what I can tell you is that this administration, unlike the previous one, takes election meddling seriously. And we're going to do everything that we can to prevent it from happening. That's why we've taken a whole-of-government approach."

    They take election meddling seriously? Trump accepted Putin's word over our intelligence community. And yesterday we learned:

    President Trump Is Spending $20 Billion on an Aircraft Carrier. The Navy Wanted That Money for Cybersecurity

    “We find the Department of the Navy preparing to win some future kinetic battle, while it is losing the current global, counter-force, counter-value, cyber war,” the report says.
    still whining about "unlike the previous administration". 
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,340
    Kat said:
    I'd bet he'll want that ship named after him. 

    Nah I’m sure he’d rather a brand spankin new one ☝️ 
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,190
    Kat said:
    I'd bet he'll want that ship named after him. 

    Not out of the realm of possibility. Haha.
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,831
    Kat said:
    I'd bet he'll want that ship named after him. 

    Boy, do you think small. 

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    LizardLizard So Cal Posts: 12,082
    Kat said:
    I'd bet he'll want that ship named after him. 

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    njnancynjnancy Northern New Jersey Posts: 5,096
    Putin and Trump spoke for about an hour. A freaking hour.

    When the gaggle asked him if he told Putin to stop meddling, first he told the reporter she was rude for interrupting (that is mandatory in a gaggle), then when she persisted and other reporters started asking, so he said that they didn't go into that.

    He said that what they discussed about the Mueller Report was it was done and Putin said it started like a mountain and ended like a mouse and Trump laughed about it.  Not once did he say anything about them meddling in our elections in the past, present or future. Basically they talked about what a witch hunt it was. 

    How is this possible? Isn't this treasonous? Giving aid and comfort to an enemy? The entire intelligence community has said that it's happening and the first page of the Mueller Report addresses Russia's meddling and how serious it was. 

    This is outrageous. Was their a note taker in the office when he was talking to Putin? Shouldn't there be with all that we know? SMH.
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    BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Duuude...been away for awhile. Been sidetracked by my new favourite band Azra Turk. They slay.
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,340
    BS44325 said:
    Duuude...been away for awhile. Been sidetracked by my new favourite band Azra Turk. They slay.
    Welcome back did you watch Barr completely run the bootleg for the Baffoon it was incredible , I’m sure you enjoyed it ...
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    BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    BS44325 said:
    Duuude...been away for awhile. Been sidetracked by my new favourite band Azra Turk. They slay.
    Welcome back did you watch Barr completely run the bootleg for the Baffoon it was incredible , I’m sure you enjoyed it ...
    Yup. It was finger licking good.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,702
    edited May 2019
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    Duuude...been away for awhile. Been sidetracked by my new favourite band Azra Turk. They slay.
    Welcome back did you watch Barr completely run the bootleg for the Baffoon it was incredible , I’m sure you enjoyed it ...
    Yup. It was finger licking good.
    No brilliant brilliance in all it’s brilliancy? I’m disappointed. CYA Barr should be uncovering the fruit from the poisonous tree any day now. Along with Team Trump Treason’s very own Report on Putin on the ritz’s meddling in the US election. You know the one that Ghouliani was sucking on his teeth and polishing his pinky ring as he spoke about their counter narrative? You remember those finger licking good pieces of fruit? Sure you do.
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    njnancynjnancy Northern New Jersey Posts: 5,096
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    Duuude...been away for awhile. Been sidetracked by my new favourite band Azra Turk. They slay.
    Welcome back did you watch Barr completely run the bootleg for the Baffoon it was incredible , I’m sure you enjoyed it ...
    Yup. It was finger licking good.
    No brilliant brilliance in all it’s brilliancy? I’m disappointed. CYA Barr should be uncovering the fruit from the poisonous tree any day now. Along with Team Trump Treason’s very own Report on Putin on the ritz’s meddling in the US election. You know the one that Ghouliani was sucking on his teeth and polishing his pinky ring as he spoke about their counter narrative? You remember those finger licking good pieces of fruit? Sure you do.
    So you've been hanging out with the FBI. Good to know that you're getting proper information about the investigation! :plus_one:
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,340
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    Duuude...been away for awhile. Been sidetracked by my new favourite band Azra Turk. They slay.
    Welcome back did you watch Barr completely run the bootleg for the Baffoon it was incredible , I’m sure you enjoyed it ...
    Yup. It was finger licking good.

    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    Duuude...been away for awhile. Been sidetracked by my new favourite band Azra Turk. They slay.
    Welcome back did you watch Barr completely run the bootleg for the Baffoon it was incredible , I’m sure you enjoyed it ...
    Yup. It was finger licking good.
    Glad it must feel great to support this criminal administration and an upstanding Baffoon.
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,340
    https://twitter.com/cm_merlin/status/1124678477368762373?s=21
    Found this Baffoon family photo so cute ..
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,573
    Ignorant, racist, xenophobic piece of shit supporting other racist,  xenophobic pieces of shit....

    Trump tweets support for far-right figures banned by Facebook
    . https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/04/tech/trump-social-media-twitter-facebook/index.html
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