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  • False_BeliefFalse_Belief Cardiff Posts: 743
    NWOntario said:
    37-year-old me loved the setlist; 20-year-old me was having an aneurysm. I love the Pumpkins, but I'm also a major Jimmy Chamberlin fanboy. I'd seen the Pumpkins with him, but I've also seen them without him - and if you've never seen him live it's worth whatever you pay just to watch him drum on "Siva." (Iha's stage banter's fantastic, too.) Also, and I can't believe I'm saying this, "Solara" was one of the highlights of the entire night; I didn't love it on the radio, but it's a monster live.
    Solara does sound much better live, from the footage I've seen.  I mean, it's fairly basic chugging powerchord stuff but the production on the studio version definitely doesn't do it any favours. 

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  • False_BeliefFalse_Belief Cardiff Posts: 743
    Recent US setlists look amazing. Hope more UK shows are announced

    He does a nightly Q&A on his Instagram and last night he confirmed that there would be no other UK dates. :-/

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  • ryph raphryph raph Posts: 887

    I SAW PEARL JAM open for the Pumpkins in 1991.

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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,416
    NWOntario said:
    37-year-old me loved the setlist; 20-year-old me was having an aneurysm. I love the Pumpkins, but I'm also a major Jimmy Chamberlin fanboy. I'd seen the Pumpkins with him, but I've also seen them without him - and if you've never seen him live it's worth whatever you pay just to watch him drum on "Siva." (Iha's stage banter's fantastic, too.) Also, and I can't believe I'm saying this, "Solara" was one of the highlights of the entire night; I didn't love it on the radio, but it's a monster live.
    Solara does sound much better live, from the footage I've seen.  I mean, it's fairly basic chugging powerchord stuff but the production on the studio version definitely doesn't do it any favours. 
    My buddy and I both thought so as well.  Neither of us really cared for the studio version but we both agree it was pretty damn good live!
  • buck502000buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    NWOntario said:
    37-year-old me loved the setlist; 20-year-old me was having an aneurysm. I love the Pumpkins, but I'm also a major Jimmy Chamberlin fanboy. I'd seen the Pumpkins with him, but I've also seen them without him - and if you've never seen him live it's worth whatever you pay just to watch him drum on "Siva." (Iha's stage banter's fantastic, too.) Also, and I can't believe I'm saying this, "Solara" was one of the highlights of the entire night; I didn't love it on the radio, but it's a monster live.
    Solara does sound much better live, from the footage I've seen.  I mean, it's fairly basic chugging powerchord stuff but the production on the studio version definitely doesn't do it any favours. 
    My buddy and I both thought so as well.  Neither of us really cared for the studio version but we both agree it was pretty damn good live!
    Solara was cool - I’d be down for an album of music like that 
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  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,090
    Machina reissue is coming per Instagram chat last night. BC claims to have 'signed the paperwork' making it official with details to come. Looking forward to how Machina I and II get looked at with this set.
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  • rummyrummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,345
    Their Seattle show is being live streamed tonight. I wish I could be there instead but I already made the six-hour concert trek to Seattle this summer (16 days ago!). Watching it on line will have to suffice - and we'll likely get a high quality bootleg out of the show.
  • Attaway77Attaway77 Posts: 2,848
    Machina reissue is coming per Instagram chat last night. BC claims to have 'signed the paperwork' making it official with details to come. Looking forward to how Machina I and II get looked at with this set.
    Sweet!!! Machina II, what I have jut sounds absolutely horrible.  I can't even remember where I got it. I always wanted to listen to that album in better quality. Either way, Machina I is a great album, looking forward to that on vinyl....
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  • theboywiltheboywil Seattle Posts: 59
    rummy said:
    Their Seattle show is being live streamed tonight. I wish I could be there instead but I already made the six-hour concert trek to Seattle this summer (16 days ago!). Watching it on line will have to suffice - and we'll likely get a high quality bootleg out of the show.
    Sweet, I will be dancing away on the floor, but hopefully this will mean I can find it somewhere as a nice little keepsake for later...
    Well we've been a good few hours drinking
    So I'm going to say what everyone's thinking
    If we're stuck on this ship and it's sinking
    Then we might as well have a parade
  • buck502000buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    Can anyone snag a poster for me from this tour?
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 6,864
    Can't wait for the Machina reissue so I can be done with SP.

  • adusickadusick Posts: 1,367
    Long shot, but anyone got an extra Seattle ticket for tonight? I don’t HAVE to go, but would be cool...
  • rummyrummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,345
    edited August 2018
    I'm a big fan of SP (at least the 90s stuff) but am I the only one who finds the whole stage show of this reunion tour a little .... overdone?
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  • given2fly23given2fly23 Evanston, IL Posts: 5,876
    DC29940 said:
    Listened to the opening night show and it was great.  Solid setlist and the band sounds incredible!  His voice will never be 1996 again, but neither will my physique.  Looking forward to Chicago I on 8/13
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    Care to point me towards where you are listening to it? Would love to relive the show.
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  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,090
    Can't wait for the Machina reissue so I can be done with SP.

    Do you have the other reissues? If not, I strongly suggest picking up the multi disc set of The Aeroplane Flies High and Adore. Amazing amazing stuff on those sets 
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 6,864
    rummy said:
    I'm a big fan of SP (at least the 90s stuff) but am I the only one who finds the whole stage show of this reunion tour a little .... overdone?
    If you are a big fan, you know overdone has always been their schtick 
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 6,864
    edited August 2018
    Can't wait for the Machina reissue so I can be done with SP.

    Do you have the other reissues? If not, I strongly suggest picking up the multi disc set of The Aeroplane Flies High and Adore. Amazing amazing stuff on those sets 
    Oh yeah, I got them all. CD and vinyl (except the MCIS cd. Too expensive and I hated how they went with a different box format)
  • rummyrummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,345
    edited August 2018
    rummy said:
    I'm a big fan of SP (at least the 90s stuff) but am I the only one who finds the whole stage show of this reunion tour a little .... overdone?
    If you are a big fan, you know overdone has always been their schtick 
    True but 1991-1996 was palatable. Things got a bit weird once BC started putting on all the makeup and started wearing ....dresses?
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 6,864
    True. But he's been doing this way longer than doing it that way.

  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 6,864
    I watched a Youtube of a whole show (from Philly maybe?) Show would be tighter and stronger if they dumped all the shit between songs. 
    And the covers that aren't Landslide. And IDK if they should even be playing that.


  • rummyrummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,345
    True. But he's been doing this way longer than doing it that way.

    True ;). I guess I have tried to not watch Corgan over the last two decades. I prefer to just listen.
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 6,864
    Christ. The last time I saw him, he came out dressed like a Christmas tree. I was embarrassed for him. That was the night I gave up on the band
  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,090
    True. But he's been doing this way longer than doing it that way.

    Happy to share. I have the super deluxe MCIS cd set. Amazing stuff. 
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,416
    I watched a Youtube of a whole show (from Philly maybe?) Show would be tighter and stronger if they dumped all the shit between songs. 
    And the covers that aren't Landslide. And IDK if they should even be playing that.


    Wasn’t a fan of the Mark McGrath interludes (just cuz I can’t stand that fucker) but the rest didn’t bother me. Having never seen them before & it being a reunion tour of sorts and BC just being a weirdo, I kinda expected the theatrics. But I get that some could find it a bit over the top. We’re polar opposites on the covers. I dug them except for Landslide. Never cared their version. 
  • rummyrummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,345
    edited August 2018
    As much as I appreciate their (own) music, the covers and theatrics can go and it'd still be a great show. It works for Radiohead and PJ (the lack of theattics, not covers) so I think it would work for SP, too.
  • ZodZod Posts: 9,941
    There's a high quality bootleg of the Seattle show out there (the whole show stream on twitter, but someone captured the satellite feed).  Makes me bummed I didn't go to the Seattle show.   Costs alot more to go to a Seattle show than Vancouver show.  Kind of wishing I went, but also hoping they play Vancouver at some point.
  • rummyrummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,345
    edited August 2018
    ^100% plus one.

    Really wanted to go on Friday but spent enough time/money seeing both PJ shows two weeks earlier that I had to pass on this one. 

    Doubtful that it'll happen it if they do end up playing Vancouver, I will be there!
  • False_BeliefFalse_Belief Cardiff Posts: 743
    edited August 2018
    So per Billy's Instagram, the Machina reissue will be the album 'as originally conceived' - i.e. the full double album with correct running order and newly commissioned artwork.   Not sure how I feel about this tbh.  I've grown so used to having them as two separate entities and was hoping for a straight remix/remaster job of both albums separately.  Ultimately I just hope they include everything that was on the Machina 2 bootleg, including the alt versions and demos.   

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  • DarthMaeglinDarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,413
    Just checked the iTunes store, and Silvery Sometimes (Ghosts), which was up as a preorder (which I'd ordered) has disappeared.  Anyone have any insight on this, lol?

    Also, happy to hear the Machina reissue is moving ahead, just hope there's options beyond the "originally conceived" running order (likely the super-duper box set will have all the versions, I'm guessing).
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