Mollie Tibbetts

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  • rgambs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    unsung said:

    Her views are well known, but still an illegal killed her.  Her opinions did not mean anything to that animal.
    Stephen Craig Paddock was an American citizen. He shot and killed 58 people last year. That animal. 
    I never understood the argument you are trying to have. Yeah this guy was an illegal immigrant who murdered someone, why the need to bring up a white murderer? Did anyone ever say he wasn’t an animal ?


    This flew over your head? Really? 
    No I just dislike your argument.  Illegal immigrant murders so we have to bring up something bad that a white person did. Instead of discussing the actual issue most of you jumped on the op and questioned his intentions even though you know whay they are. He s obviously bringing up immigration reform and stronger borders as using this as an example just like all of us do when making points about things we feel strongly about. 
    So, a poster who literally admitted to fearing white genocide posts a blatantly obvious attempt to capitalise on xenophobia in step with an obvious right wing media pattern of drilling for fear to enact extremist right wing policy, and you think the people who point out his hypocrisy and selective outrage are the ones who have a problem? 
    That's effed.
    Why is every post about the poster instead of the topic? This could have been an actual discussion but the AMT attack dogs pounced because of the poster.

    I guess we can discuss anything anymore. It’s all just bitching and fighting and yelling at the poster.
    Why?

    Because:


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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    rgambs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    unsung said:

    Her views are well known, but still an illegal killed her.  Her opinions did not mean anything to that animal.
    Stephen Craig Paddock was an American citizen. He shot and killed 58 people last year. That animal. 
    I never understood the argument you are trying to have. Yeah this guy was an illegal immigrant who murdered someone, why the need to bring up a white murderer? Did anyone ever say he wasn’t an animal ?


    This flew over your head? Really? 
    No I just dislike your argument.  Illegal immigrant murders so we have to bring up something bad that a white person did. Instead of discussing the actual issue most of you jumped on the op and questioned his intentions even though you know whay they are. He s obviously bringing up immigration reform and stronger borders as using this as an example just like all of us do when making points about things we feel strongly about. 
    So, a poster who literally admitted to fearing white genocide posts a blatantly obvious attempt to capitalise on xenophobia in step with an obvious right wing media pattern of drilling for fear to enact extremist right wing policy, and you think the people who point out his hypocrisy and selective outrage are the ones who have a problem? 
    That's effed.
    Why is every post about the poster instead of the topic? This could have been an actual discussion but the AMT attack dogs pounced because of the poster.

    I guess we can discuss anything anymore. It’s all just bitching and fighting and yelling at the poster.
    What actual discussion could be had on this topic?? Seriously.
    There are already threads for every possible angle to this OP, aside from the thread that would be titled 'Stoking the fire of xenophobia for conservative votes'.



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  • my2hands
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    I have rethought my position................ calling a human an animal is offensive to animals, I prefer animals over a lot of humans.... my German Shepard was the coolest dude ever

  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    my2hands said:

    I have rethought my position................ calling a human an animal is offensive to animals, I prefer animals over a lot of humans.... my German Shepard was the coolest dude ever

    I don't doubt yours was a cool dude, but I've been violently attacked by 3 times as many German Shepherds as humans.
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  • fife
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    fife said:
    my2hands said:

    https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2018/08/21/29-year-old-abducted-in-south-baltimore/

    https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/cleveland-metro/13-year-old-said-she-was-abducted-on-her-way-to-school-stabbed-her-abductor-to-get-away

    https://nypost.com/2018/06/15/girl-abducted-by-stranger-tells-cops-monster-took-me/

    https://idahostatejournal.com/news/local/state-issues-alert-for-teen-girl-missing-from-billings/article_51fe1883-0a45-502d-88f7-1342061abde2.html

    https://patch.com/maryland/silverspring/police-seek-young-girl-missing-silver-spring


    it happens daily.... everywhere... all of the time.... but we all know who Mollie is nationally, and are discussing her here now because of why I wonder? this case was regional and became national as soon as the perp was undocumented, how is this not obvious? its feeding a xenophobic fever spreading across this country and a lot of the globe right now, that's why we all know who this poor girl was


    there are approximately 17,000 murders annually in the USA, how many victims can you name?

    drilling for fear, keeps the job simple 

    https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/video/3905640-fbi-joins-iowa-officials-search-for-missing-student-mollie-tibbetts/

    National before she was found. 
    maybe its just me but I don't consider CBSlocal News as national news. 
    This is philly. She went missing in Iowa. Sheesh. 
    1. adjective [usually ADJECTIVE noun]
    National means relating to the whole of a country or nation rather than to part of it or to other nations.

    while yes this story was showed in Philly, it was a local news station in philly.  what that means is that the only people who saw that report were people in Philly.  now if was CBS news and hence seen by everyone in the country then yes I would consider that national news. 

  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    edited August 2018
    rgambs said:
    my2hands said:

    I have rethought my position................ calling a human an animal is offensive to animals, I prefer animals over a lot of humans.... my German Shepard was the coolest dude ever

    I don't doubt yours was a cool dude, but I've been violently attacked by 3 times as many German Shepherds as humans.
    You meet a German Shepard who attack you in the morning, you've met a German Shepard who attacked you.

    You meet German Shepards who attack you all day...

    :P 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    fife said:
    fife said:
    my2hands said:

    https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2018/08/21/29-year-old-abducted-in-south-baltimore/

    https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/cleveland-metro/13-year-old-said-she-was-abducted-on-her-way-to-school-stabbed-her-abductor-to-get-away

    https://nypost.com/2018/06/15/girl-abducted-by-stranger-tells-cops-monster-took-me/

    https://idahostatejournal.com/news/local/state-issues-alert-for-teen-girl-missing-from-billings/article_51fe1883-0a45-502d-88f7-1342061abde2.html

    https://patch.com/maryland/silverspring/police-seek-young-girl-missing-silver-spring


    it happens daily.... everywhere... all of the time.... but we all know who Mollie is nationally, and are discussing her here now because of why I wonder? this case was regional and became national as soon as the perp was undocumented, how is this not obvious? its feeding a xenophobic fever spreading across this country and a lot of the globe right now, that's why we all know who this poor girl was


    there are approximately 17,000 murders annually in the USA, how many victims can you name?

    drilling for fear, keeps the job simple 

    https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/video/3905640-fbi-joins-iowa-officials-search-for-missing-student-mollie-tibbetts/

    National before she was found. 
    maybe its just me but I don't consider CBSlocal News as national news. 
    This is philly. She went missing in Iowa. Sheesh. 
    1. adjective [usually ADJECTIVE noun]
    National means relating to the whole of a country or nation rather than to part of it or to other nations.

    while yes this story was showed in Philly, it was a local news station in philly.  what that means is that the only people who saw that report were people in Philly.  now if was CBS news and hence seen by everyone in the country then yes I would consider that national news. 

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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    mcgruff10 said:
    unsung said:

    Her views are well known, but still an illegal killed her.  Her opinions did not mean anything to that animal.
    Stephen Craig Paddock was an American citizen. He shot and killed 58 people last year. That animal. 

    He was also a "responsible" gun owner. Until he wasn't.
    So would this be a case of a law abiding illegal immigrant until he wasn’t?
    LOL. touche gruffy. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mcgruff10 said:
    unsung said:

    Her views are well known, but still an illegal killed her.  Her opinions did not mean anything to that animal.
    Stephen Craig Paddock was an American citizen. He shot and killed 58 people last year. That animal. 

    He was also a "responsible" gun owner. Until he wasn't.
    So would this be a case of a law abiding illegal immigrant until he wasn’t?
    LOL. touche gruffy. 
    Yea, kind of like the legal, illegal repube owned business that hired him because I’m certain he never previously hired illegals, right?

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  • mickeyrat
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    educate yourselves to help where you can. they offer free seminars across the country on signs of trafficking


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  • PJPOWER
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    mcgruff10 said:
    unsung said:

    Her views are well known, but still an illegal killed her.  Her opinions did not mean anything to that animal.
    Stephen Craig Paddock was an American citizen. He shot and killed 58 people last year. That animal. 

    He was also a "responsible" gun owner. Until he wasn't.
    So would this be a case of a law abiding illegal immigrant until he wasn’t?
    LOL. touche gruffy. 
    Ha, seems like that is a fair case to make in the AMT

  • HughFreakingDillon
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    PJPOWER said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    unsung said:

    Her views are well known, but still an illegal killed her.  Her opinions did not mean anything to that animal.
    Stephen Craig Paddock was an American citizen. He shot and killed 58 people last year. That animal. 

    He was also a "responsible" gun owner. Until he wasn't.
    So would this be a case of a law abiding illegal immigrant until he wasn’t?
    LOL. touche gruffy. 
    Ha, seems like that is a fair case to make in the AMT

    hey, we can't have it both ways. I think it was a pretty clever comment. 
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  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,853
    I'm very anti Trump and would be considered a liberal... but I am open to dialogue on immigration reform and increased border/illegal immigration security.  

    However, rash and useless acts like a wall, detaining/separating families, and fear are silly.


    Very sad story with this poor girl and her family
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,419
    "She would not want this to be used as fuel against undocumented immigrants": Some of Mollie Tibbetts' family don't want her death politicized https://t.co/T8t7ubpSV1 https://t.co/IE10rX4KET


  • PJPOWER
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    mickeyrat said:
    educate yourselves to help where you can. they offer free seminars across the country on signs of trafficking


    Yes, I feel that the general public has no idea how big of an issue human trafficking is.  I attend a seminar a couple years ago put on by a human trafficking task force and a couple things that was mentioned were nail solons and Chinese food restaurants.  It was said that, because there was such a huge network of these businesses acting as fronts for human trafficking (60% of them if I remember correctly) that they couldn’t keep up with them. They wound find a child trafficked for sex from California to Dallas, TX, take them back to their parents in California, then find the same child back at a new location in Dallas within 48 hours (of course they would then try to prosecute the parents too, but they moved around just as much). 
    Also, these vans that park at the end of the street and let a bunch of kids out to “sell magazines” are often found to be runaways that are being trafficked and exploited.  It’s everywhere, and people need to be more aware.
  • oftenreading
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    PJPOWER said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    unsung said:

    Her views are well known, but still an illegal killed her.  Her opinions did not mean anything to that animal.
    Stephen Craig Paddock was an American citizen. He shot and killed 58 people last year. That animal. 

    He was also a "responsible" gun owner. Until he wasn't.
    So would this be a case of a law abiding illegal immigrant until he wasn’t?
    LOL. touche gruffy. 
    Ha, seems like that is a fair case to make in the AMT

    hey, we can't have it both ways. I think it was a pretty clever comment. 

    Yup.

    Unfortunately, back in non-quippy land, immigrants are less likely to kill you than the average American, while gun owners are more likely to kill you than the average American. 
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  • PJPOWER
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    PJPOWER said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    unsung said:

    Her views are well known, but still an illegal killed her.  Her opinions did not mean anything to that animal.
    Stephen Craig Paddock was an American citizen. He shot and killed 58 people last year. That animal. 

    He was also a "responsible" gun owner. Until he wasn't.
    So would this be a case of a law abiding illegal immigrant until he wasn’t?
    LOL. touche gruffy. 
    Ha, seems like that is a fair case to make in the AMT

    hey, we can't have it both ways. I think it was a pretty clever comment. 
    Agreed :)
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    "She would not want this to be used as fuel against undocumented immigrants": Some of Mollie Tibbetts' family don't want her death politicized https://t.co/T8t7ubpSV1 https://t.co/IE10rX4KET


    So if a family does not want a tragedy exploited for political reasons then you are saying we should not?  I tend to agree, actually, and think that may need to apply to posts in the gun violence thread as well.
  • my2hands
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    rgambs said:
    my2hands said:

    I have rethought my position................ calling a human an animal is offensive to animals, I prefer animals over a lot of humans.... my German Shepard was the coolest dude ever

    I don't doubt yours was a cool dude, but I've been violently attacked by 3 times as many German Shepherds as humans.


    probably for good reason... I kid I kid :)


    or they had a shitty owner