Mollie Tibbetts

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  • OffSheGoes35OffSheGoes35 Posts: 3,514
    unsung said:
    Let's hear more about missing aboriginals. Unsung won't mind.
    Who are you?
    Hi. I'm Rin. :)   Would you mind if we learned about missing Canadian aboriginal women in your thread? You probably would since the discussion has progressed way past that subject.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,586
    I'd like some numbers.

    Rates of crime in general per population demographic by percentage. then break that down by type of crime by percentage of population demographic and so on......
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    unsung said:
    Let's hear more about missing aboriginals. Unsung won't mind.
    Who are you?
    Hi. I'm Rin. :)   Would you mind if we learned about missing Canadian aboriginal women in your thread? You probably would since the discussion has progressed way past that subject.
    You don’t need to mention me in order to add info.  Just do it.
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    mickeyrat said:
    I'd like some numbers.

    Rates of crime in general per population demographic by percentage. then break that down by type of crime by percentage of population demographic and so on......
    Fill this in.

    3% of *demographic* commits 50% of murders in the US.
  • unsung said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I'd like some numbers.

    Rates of crime in general per population demographic by percentage. then break that down by type of crime by percentage of population demographic and so on......
    Fill this in.

    3% of *demographic* commits 50% of murders in the US.
    What demographic are you talking about?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,020
    unsung said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I'd like some numbers.

    Rates of crime in general per population demographic by percentage. then break that down by type of crime by percentage of population demographic and so on......
    Fill this in.

    3% of *demographic* commits 50% of murders in the US.
    What demographic are you talking about?
    Another made up one. You’ll never see a link to the certitude.
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    I’ll tell you who commits the vast majority of the murders, not just in the US but worldwide - men. If you want to narrow it down a little, we can say “young men”. 

    The rest of the “demographic” information is much less relevant. 
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,763
    unsung said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I'd like some numbers.

    Rates of crime in general per population demographic by percentage. then break that down by type of crime by percentage of population demographic and so on......
    Fill this in.

    3% of *demographic* commits 50% of murders in the US.
    What demographic are you talking about?
    Another made up one. You’ll never see a link to the certitude.
    Sure you will
    But it will be to sites like....

    drudge
    newsmax
    zero hedge
    infowars
    Etc etc etc
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
    i am sick of this horseshit politicizing of one murder victim. 

    guy kills his whole family, trump says nothing.

    guy kills a jogger and they want to blame all of mexico for it.
    Exactly. 

    That poor family. 
    Yeah I’m certsinly against trump and those using it as some sort of mantra.

    But the facts are a person that shouldn’t be in the country did kill someone. We need full immigration reform.  Not just because this...there are 11 million people here illegally.


    There are indeed.... and they are doing a lot to prop up the American workforce. I think we all know what a disaster it would be if that 11 million got deported.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
    edited August 2018
    Wobbie said:
    what about the US citizen in CO who killed his pregnant wife and two daughters?
    This could be whataboutism, although I think his point is that so much focus is on this murder specifically because a illegal immigrant committed it, while other (even worse) crimes get far less attention because they don't serve the racist or anti-immigrant narrative, and I think is an important topic of discussion. The fact that this crime is obviously being used for political purposes against immigrants is a pretty important detail IMO. Wobbie's whatabout wasn't meant to diminish the crime..... Anyway, what a piece of shit that guy is. I will never understand those people who can murder their family (and shove their dead children into full oil drums) and then stand up in front of cameras and cry and talk about finding them safe. It's so fucked up.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
    Didn’t I ask this very question yesterday? Y’all being played by putin on the ritz, yo!

    How Russian bots used Mollie Tibbetts' death to distract from Michael Cohen and Paul Manafort - The Independent https://apple.news/AcpXQVcf6QtOw5JC6RXehcQ
    For sure.... although I'm happy to say that I don't think anything is going to really work to distract from that stuff, now that it's ramped up the way it has.... But I guess I will never say never when it comes to Trump's America. :disappointed:
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
    unsung said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I'd like some numbers.

    Rates of crime in general per population demographic by percentage. then break that down by type of crime by percentage of population demographic and so on......
    Fill this in.

    3% of *demographic* commits 50% of murders in the US.
    What demographic are you talking about?
    Does it matter? I don't think any demographic could fit that bill. :confused:
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
    I’ll tell you who commits the vast majority of the murders, not just in the US but worldwide - men. If you want to narrow it down a little, we can say “young men”. 

    The rest of the “demographic” information is much less relevant. 
    Yes - nobody wants to confront the male violence problem (aka the violence problem) as a whole though.... It would take too much effort and too much acceptance of responsibility I guess.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    These people have no shame. Good for the local chapter though:

     
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
    ^^ good for them. Always nice to see people acting sane.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    edited August 2018


    "This board also extends sympathy to the member of Mollie's family that dealt with public harassment from Turning Point USA Communications Director, Candace Owens," the letter reads. "We ask that your exchange with Owens represent only herself and not conservatives as a whole."

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,586
    edited August 2018
    unsung said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I'd like some numbers.

    Rates of crime in general per population demographic by percentage. then break that down by type of crime by percentage of population demographic and so on......
    Fill this in.

    3% of *demographic* commits 50% of murders in the US.
    to clarify the request, show me some reputable nonpartisan data links with the above.....
    Post edited by mickeyrat on
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,020
    mickeyrat said:
    unsung said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I'd like some numbers.

    Rates of crime in general per population demographic by percentage. then break that down by type of crime by percentage of population demographic and so on......
    Fill this in.

    3% of *demographic* commits 50% of murders in the US.
    to clarify the request, show me some reputable nonpartisan data links with the above.....

    unsung said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I'd like some numbers.

    Rates of crime in general per population demographic by percentage. then break that down by type of crime by percentage of population demographic and so on......
    Fill this in.

    3% of *demographic* commits 50% of murders in the US.
    What demographic are you talking about?
    Another made up one. You’ll never see a link to the certitude.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    edited August 2018
    The Tibbetts family remains strong despite republican efforts to politicize Molly’s death. Can’t imagine what this they are going through:




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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    The Tibbetts family remains strong despite republican efforts to politicize Molly’s death. Can’t imagine what this they are going through:





    Imagine having the strength to keep fighting against the racist tide when you are swamped by grief. 
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,496
    The Tibbetts family remains strong despite republican efforts to politicize Molly’s death. Can’t imagine what this they are going through:





    Imagine having the strength to keep fighting against the racist tide when you are swamped by grief. 
    So this guy was here illegally but we won't make a big deal.  However in the gun violence thread we have a white male committing mass murder while gaming and now it is a call to ban!  Double standards annoy me.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    mcgruff10 said:
    The Tibbetts family remains strong despite republican efforts to politicize Molly’s death. Can’t imagine what this they are going through:





    Imagine having the strength to keep fighting against the racist tide when you are swamped by grief. 
    So this guy was here illegally but we won't make a big deal.  However in the gun violence thread we have a white male committing mass murder while gaming and now it is a call to ban!  Double standards annoy me.  

    A call to ban....... what, exactly? I don't recall any calls to ban. Except for the idea of eSports.
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,496
    mcgruff10 said:
    The Tibbetts family remains strong despite republican efforts to politicize Molly’s death. Can’t imagine what this they are going through:





    Imagine having the strength to keep fighting against the racist tide when you are swamped by grief. 
    So this guy was here illegally but we won't make a big deal.  However in the gun violence thread we have a white male committing mass murder while gaming and now it is a call to ban!  Double standards annoy me.  

    A call to ban....... what, exactly? I don't recall any calls to ban. Except for the idea of eSports.
    Oh stop.  You aren't exactly pro 2nd amendment.  You'd love to ban all "assault" weapons and then keep going.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,020
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    The Tibbetts family remains strong despite republican efforts to politicize Molly’s death. Can’t imagine what this they are going through:





    Imagine having the strength to keep fighting against the racist tide when you are swamped by grief. 
    So this guy was here illegally but we won't make a big deal.  However in the gun violence thread we have a white male committing mass murder while gaming and now it is a call to ban!  Double standards annoy me.  

    A call to ban....... what, exactly? I don't recall any calls to ban. Except for the idea of eSports.
    Oh stop.  You aren't exactly pro 2nd amendment.  You'd love to ban all "assault" weapons and then keep going.  
    Pretty big assumption on your part. Personally, I’ve never advocated for a total ban on firearms. 
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,496
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    The Tibbetts family remains strong despite republican efforts to politicize Molly’s death. Can’t imagine what this they are going through:





    Imagine having the strength to keep fighting against the racist tide when you are swamped by grief. 
    So this guy was here illegally but we won't make a big deal.  However in the gun violence thread we have a white male committing mass murder while gaming and now it is a call to ban!  Double standards annoy me.  

    A call to ban....... what, exactly? I don't recall any calls to ban. Except for the idea of eSports.
    Oh stop.  You aren't exactly pro 2nd amendment.  You'd love to ban all "assault" weapons and then keep going.  
    Pretty big assumption on your part. Personally, I’ve never advocated for a total ban on firearms. 
    Not a "total" but definitely a ban of some firearms.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    The Tibbetts family remains strong despite republican efforts to politicize Molly’s death. Can’t imagine what this they are going through:




    He could have been...but he wasn't.

    You can't use her for politics, only her family can!  Damn toxic masculinity!
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    unsung said:
    The Tibbetts family remains strong despite republican efforts to politicize Molly’s death. Can’t imagine what this they are going through:




    He could have been...but he wasn't.

    You can't use her for politics, only her family can!  Damn toxic masculinity!
    That’s a pretty disgusting post, even for you. 

    If anyone gets to say what was important to Mollie Tibbetts, it’s her family, not you. 
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Mollie said what was important to her quite widely on her twitter page, we don't need the opinion of some 3rd cousin.
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    The Tibbetts family remains strong despite republican efforts to politicize Molly’s death. Can’t imagine what this they are going through:





    Imagine having the strength to keep fighting against the racist tide when you are swamped by grief. 
    So this guy was here illegally but we won't make a big deal.  However in the gun violence thread we have a white male committing mass murder while gaming and now it is a call to ban!  Double standards annoy me.  

    A call to ban....... what, exactly? I don't recall any calls to ban. Except for the idea of eSports.
    Oh stop.  You aren't exactly pro 2nd amendment.  You'd love to ban all "assault" weapons and then keep going.  

    Stop? Stop what? Stop posting? Why - don't your ideas stand up to discussion?

    You said ".....now it is a call to ban!". "Now" generally means something is happening at the current time. I don't recall that I or anyone else in the gun violence thread calling for a ban at that time.

    Maybe you can stop, and rephrase what you were trying to say. 

    (And for the record, of course I'm not pro 2nd amendment. It's hard to contemplate a more wrong-headed approach to the issue than 2A. It's killing your country and your citizens.)
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    The Tibbetts family remains strong despite republican efforts to politicize Molly’s death. Can’t imagine what this they are going through:





    Imagine having the strength to keep fighting against the racist tide when you are swamped by grief. 
    So this guy was here illegally but we won't make a big deal.  However in the gun violence thread we have a white male committing mass murder while gaming and now it is a call to ban!  Double standards annoy me.  

    A call to ban....... what, exactly? I don't recall any calls to ban. Except for the idea of eSports.
    Oh stop.  You aren't exactly pro 2nd amendment.  You'd love to ban all "assault" weapons and then keep going.  
    Pretty big assumption on your part. Personally, I’ve never advocated for a total ban on firearms. 
    Never advocated a total ban until you do.
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