Mollie Tibbetts

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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    mcgruff10 said:
    unsung said:

    Her views are well known, but still an illegal killed her.  Her opinions did not mean anything to that animal.
    Stephen Craig Paddock was an American citizen. He shot and killed 58 people last year. That animal. 
    I never understood the argument you are trying to have. Yeah this guy was an illegal immigrant who murdered someone, why the need to bring up a white murderer? Did anyone ever say he wasn’t an animal ?


    This flew over your head? Really? 
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  • The Juggler
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    unsung said:

    Her views are well known, but still an illegal killed her.  Her opinions did not mean anything to that animal.
    Stephen Craig Paddock was an American citizen. He shot and killed 58 people last year. That animal. 

    He was also a "responsible" gun owner. Until he wasn't.
    We should make a thread for every person who gets murdered on a daily basis in this country. 
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,143
    mcgruff10 said:
    unsung said:

    Her views are well known, but still an illegal killed her.  Her opinions did not mean anything to that animal.
    Stephen Craig Paddock was an American citizen. He shot and killed 58 people last year. That animal. 
    I never understood the argument you are trying to have. Yeah this guy was an illegal immigrant who murdered someone, why the need to bring up a white murderer? Did anyone ever say he wasn’t an animal ?


    This flew over your head? Really? 
    No I just dislike your argument.  Illegal immigrant murders so we have to bring up something bad that a white person did. Instead of discussing the actual issue most of you jumped on the op and questioned his intentions even though you know whay they are. He s obviously bringing up immigration reform and stronger borders as using this as an example just like all of us do when making points about things we feel strongly about. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    unsung said:

    Her views are well known, but still an illegal killed her.  Her opinions did not mean anything to that animal.
    Stephen Craig Paddock was an American citizen. He shot and killed 58 people last year. That animal. 
    I never understood the argument you are trying to have. Yeah this guy was an illegal immigrant who murdered someone, why the need to bring up a white murderer? Did anyone ever say he wasn’t an animal ?


    This flew over your head? Really? 
    No I just dislike your argument.  Illegal immigrant murders so we have to bring up something bad that a white person did. Instead of discussing the actual issue most of you jumped on the op and questioned his intentions even though you know whay they are. He s obviously bringing up immigration reform and stronger borders as using this as an example just like all of us do when making points about things we feel strongly about. 
    So according to the OP’s subsequent posts, the repube farm owner should be jailed and his business shuttered, right? Further, I don’t recall the OP starting a thread bemoaning illegal immigration or expressing concern for the victim until the victim was found dead and allegedly killed by someone here illegally. Why is that? I asked and didn’t get an answer. It makes me wonder though how the OP feels about Mollie’s “I hate white people” tweet and which side he falls on in the context of her tweet and the reaction it elicited on alt-right websites like The Daily Stormer? I won’t link it because I won’t help promote such complete garbage but feel free to google it. And I really would like the OP to explain what his motivation was, since he waited until she was found dead, and explain it. Otherwise, the OP should stop complaining about, “being misunderstood.” I expect a 3-5 word response, which proves the OP “won” or a stupid meme.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,637
    I thought there was uncertainty as to whether he was illegal.  Not that this should matter to the Tibbets family.  Not that anyone in these arguments really cares about them, anyway.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,669
    OnWis97 said:
    I thought there was uncertainty as to whether he was illegal.  Not that this should matter to the Tibbets family.  Not that anyone in these arguments really cares about them, anyway.
    Obviously, those close to the family would care hugely, those who know them more causally would probably have some strong feelings and their community in general would feel closer to the situation but, yeah, outside that it's just the makings of another true crime story.  And people really eat that stuff up.  We can't keep all those mass market true crimes in books at my wife's store in stock.  Ann Rule especially.

    Now, true or not, add to one of those stories the word "alien", modifying that work with the highly flammable adjective "illegal", and you have spontaneous combustion.  It's an instant seller before the first chapter is done.  And for those who get agitated by even the mere suggestion of "illegal aliens going on a killing spree", it becomes a catalyst and excuse for even more hate.  Suddenly, using the credit card to donate to The Wall becomes an impulse buy.  Add to that, you know the hard core outliers want to start planning a confrontation. 

    We are at the peak of social drama.  The masses are erupting in either tears and clenched fists. 

    Most strange of all:  for most of us it's all just words and images on an electronic device.  I've known only known a few murdered people.  The most "dramatic" was a death by house being set on fire.  It made the 6 o'clock news splash.  But knowing the person, all of the sudden the news is irrelevant. It gives one some perspective, that's for darned sure.
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    I do not know the accused background ... but honestly what makes a person want to kill, especially for absolutely no reason.  This seems like a trait that primarily affects humans ... 
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,669
    I do not know the accused background ... but honestly what makes a person want to kill, especially for absolutely no reason.  This seems like a trait that primarily affects humans ... 
    Seems I've read that some primates besides humans are occasionally violent for no reason like some humans are.  Outside of primates though, I can't think of any. 
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    All sorts of animals commit all sorts of violence, humans are not alone in murder, not even close.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    unsung said:

    Her views are well known, but still an illegal killed her.  Her opinions did not mean anything to that animal.
    Stephen Craig Paddock was an American citizen. He shot and killed 58 people last year. That animal. 
    I never understood the argument you are trying to have. Yeah this guy was an illegal immigrant who murdered someone, why the need to bring up a white murderer? Did anyone ever say he wasn’t an animal ?


    This flew over your head? Really? 
    No I just dislike your argument.  Illegal immigrant murders so we have to bring up something bad that a white person did. Instead of discussing the actual issue most of you jumped on the op and questioned his intentions even though you know whay they are. He s obviously bringing up immigration reform and stronger borders as using this as an example just like all of us do when making points about things we feel strongly about. 
    So, a poster who literally admitted to fearing white genocide posts a blatantly obvious attempt to capitalise on xenophobia in step with an obvious right wing media pattern of drilling for fear to enact extremist right wing policy, and you think the people who point out his hypocrisy and selective outrage are the ones who have a problem? 
    That's effed.
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  • mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    unsung said:

    Her views are well known, but still an illegal killed her.  Her opinions did not mean anything to that animal.
    Stephen Craig Paddock was an American citizen. He shot and killed 58 people last year. That animal. 
    I never understood the argument you are trying to have. Yeah this guy was an illegal immigrant who murdered someone, why the need to bring up a white murderer? Did anyone ever say he wasn’t an animal ?


    This flew over your head? Really? 
    No I just dislike your argument.  Illegal immigrant murders so we have to bring up something bad that a white person did. Instead of discussing the actual issue most of you jumped on the op and questioned his intentions even though you know whay they are. He s obviously bringing up immigration reform and stronger borders as using this as an example just like all of us do when making points about things we feel strongly about. 
    Isn't the actual issue that people (men mainly) murder.
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  • Annafalk
    Annafalk Sweden Posts: 4,004
    rgambs said:
    All sorts of animals commit all sorts of violence, humans are not alone in murder, not even close.
    Why even bring up animals in this thread? They can't be blamed for anything, they can't understand and reflect upon their actions.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Annafalk said:
    rgambs said:
    All sorts of animals commit all sorts of violence, humans are not alone in murder, not even close.
    Why even bring up animals in this thread? They can't be blamed for anything, they can't understand and reflect upon their actions.
    I was just responding to the age old myth of humans being the only species that murders.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,783
    He killed he should pay the price here in our courts send him to jail for life .
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited August 2018
    Immigrant = animal
    White mass murderer = troubled

    And call me when one of these national abduction/missing/murder stories doesnt involve a white girl. Ever seen one involving a black girl, or a guy for that matter?
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  • Can being a killer just by itself be called an animal.

    Or do you need to combine it with "immigrant" for it to be "an animal" for some people?


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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    unsung said:

    Her views are well known, but still an illegal killed her.  Her opinions did not mean anything to that animal.
    Stephen Craig Paddock was an American citizen. He shot and killed 58 people last year. That animal. 
    I never understood the argument you are trying to have. Yeah this guy was an illegal immigrant who murdered someone, why the need to bring up a white murderer? Did anyone ever say he wasn’t an animal ?


    This flew over your head? Really? 
    No I just dislike your argument.  Illegal immigrant murders so we have to bring up something bad that a white person did. Instead of discussing the actual issue most of you jumped on the op and questioned his intentions even though you know whay they are. He s obviously bringing up immigration reform and stronger borders as using this as an example just like all of us do when making points about things we feel strongly about. 
    You’ve missed the point yet again, professor. 
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,143
    edited August 2018
    rgambs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    unsung said:

    Her views are well known, but still an illegal killed her.  Her opinions did not mean anything to that animal.
    Stephen Craig Paddock was an American citizen. He shot and killed 58 people last year. That animal. 
    I never understood the argument you are trying to have. Yeah this guy was an illegal immigrant who murdered someone, why the need to bring up a white murderer? Did anyone ever say he wasn’t an animal ?


    This flew over your head? Really? 
    No I just dislike your argument.  Illegal immigrant murders so we have to bring up something bad that a white person did. Instead of discussing the actual issue most of you jumped on the op and questioned his intentions even though you know whay they are. He s obviously bringing up immigration reform and stronger borders as using this as an example just like all of us do when making points about things we feel strongly about. 
    So, a poster who literally admitted to fearing white genocide posts a blatantly obvious attempt to capitalise on xenophobia in step with an obvious right wing media pattern of drilling for fear to enact extremist right wing policy, and you think the people who point out his hypocrisy and selective outrage are the ones who have a problem? 
    That's effed.
    Has he actually admitted to fearing white genocide (I honestly don't know)?
    Post edited by mcgruff10 on
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    edited August 2018
    mcgruff10 said:
    rgambs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    unsung said:

    Her views are well known, but still an illegal killed her.  Her opinions did not mean anything to that animal.
    Stephen Craig Paddock was an American citizen. He shot and killed 58 people last year. That animal. 
    I never understood the argument you are trying to have. Yeah this guy was an illegal immigrant who murdered someone, why the need to bring up a white murderer? Did anyone ever say he wasn’t an animal ?


    This flew over your head? Really? 
    No I just dislike your argument.  Illegal immigrant murders so we have to bring up something bad that a white person did. Instead of discussing the actual issue most of you jumped on the op and questioned his intentions even though you know whay they are. He s obviously bringing up immigration reform and stronger borders as using this as an example just like all of us do when making points about things we feel strongly about. 
    So, a poster who literally admitted to fearing white genocide posts a blatantly obvious attempt to capitalise on xenophobia in step with an obvious right wing media pattern of drilling for fear to enact extremist right wing policy, and you think the people who point out his hypocrisy and selective outrage are the ones who have a problem? 
    That's effed.
    Has he actually admitted to fearing white genocide (I honestly don't know)?
    Come on man. Go back and read Unsung’s post history before commenting on any more of his threads. 

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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,880
    rgambs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    unsung said:

    Her views are well known, but still an illegal killed her.  Her opinions did not mean anything to that animal.
    Stephen Craig Paddock was an American citizen. He shot and killed 58 people last year. That animal. 
    I never understood the argument you are trying to have. Yeah this guy was an illegal immigrant who murdered someone, why the need to bring up a white murderer? Did anyone ever say he wasn’t an animal ?


    This flew over your head? Really? 
    No I just dislike your argument.  Illegal immigrant murders so we have to bring up something bad that a white person did. Instead of discussing the actual issue most of you jumped on the op and questioned his intentions even though you know whay they are. He s obviously bringing up immigration reform and stronger borders as using this as an example just like all of us do when making points about things we feel strongly about. 
    So, a poster who literally admitted to fearing white genocide posts a blatantly obvious attempt to capitalise on xenophobia in step with an obvious right wing media pattern of drilling for fear to enact extremist right wing policy, and you think the people who point out his hypocrisy and selective outrage are the ones who have a problem? 
    That's effed.
    Why is every post about the poster instead of the topic? This could have been an actual discussion but the AMT attack dogs pounced because of the poster.

    I guess we can discuss anything anymore. It’s all just bitching and fighting and yelling at the poster.
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