Inuk father faces online backlash after sharing photo of beluga harvest

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    edited August 2018
    The pilot whale.  Gentle, sensitive, intelligent.  People still kill these and claim they need to for survival?  I call bullshit.

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    And just because an ancient culture did something for a long doesn't mean it's still OK.


    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 15,029
    They  are majestic creatures 


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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    brianlux said:
    The pilot whale.  Gentle, sensitive, intelligent.  People still kill these and claim they need to for survival?  I call bullshit.

    Some of the same people who are down with the idea of killing these beautiful, innocent creatures argue adamantly against executing child murderers and the like.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    edited August 2018
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    brianlux said:
    The pilot whale.  Gentle, sensitive, intelligent.  People still kill these and claim they need to for survival?  I call bullshit.

    Some of the same people who are down with the idea of killing these beautiful, innocent creatures argue adamantly against executing child murderers and the like.
    Mind boggling.

    Anyone reading this who is somehow OK with killing these beauties might consider the following:

    -Pilot whales are are actually the second largest Dolphins in the world.

    -They are highly social animals. 

    -They travel in large, matriarchal pods and the males and females stay with their mother's pods but they do not inbreed.  Males temporarily leave their mother's pd to mate.

    -Under stressful conditions, Pilot Whales emit sad, mournful cries.

    -They are susceptible to pollutants such as DDT and PCB's (obviously from anthropocentric sources, making them toxic to eat).

    -Certain groups of humans have taken advantage of the Pilot Whale's gentle social nature by herding them into shallow waters by what is called "drive fisheries". One drive fishery alone in Newfoundland killed over 50,000 whales between 1951 and 1961.

    -They display the same intelligence as bottlenose dolphins.



    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,656
    edited August 2018

    Philip Wollen : Animals Should Be Off The Menu


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQCe4qEexjc
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,911
    lastexitlondon said:
    brianlux said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    LADbible (@ladbible) Tweeted:
    Sea turns red with blood during annual whale hunt on Faroe Islands.
    These brave souls, the Sandavagur 5, were arrested for  defending the pilot whales in the Faroe Islands.  Heroes:

    I cannot understand  how this is allowed. I'm actually  so disgusted.  Wow they arrested the wrong people . Sad race the humans .
    I am also disgusted and people who do this are indeed heroes ... But the laws protecting such industries are pretty cut and dry.
    mickeyrat said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    brianlux said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    LADbible (@ladbible) Tweeted:
    Sea turns red with blood during annual whale hunt on Faroe Islands.
    These brave souls, the Sandavagur 5, were arrested for  defending the pilot whales in the Faroe Islands.  Heroes:

    I cannot understand  how this is allowed. I'm actually  so disgusted.  Wow they arrested the wrong people . Sad race the humans .
    I am also disgusted and people who do this are indeed heroes ... But the laws protecting such industries are pretty cut and dry.
    industry? you seem to suggest this is for commercial purposes. annual hunt. an article stated 800 culled to feed 50000 for the winter. pilot whale population estimated to 100k in that region

    I wonde what the types of and rates of disease on that island and if their diet plays a role in that.
    I'm completely against it, but yes, it is still an industry, just like the disgusting annual seal hunt is in Canada. And yes, some of it is for commercial purposes, some is apparently used in bartering, and part of it is supposedly entertainment, like sports fishing, which is indeed also an industry in and of itself (they do require paid licenses to do it).
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    We do not kill the white fur seal pups ... thats just an outright lie by the animal rights activist.

    The hunt Canada loves: Why seal clubbing will never die

    https://nationalpost.com/news/canada-is-never-ever-going-to-stop-killing-seals-your-tell-all-guide-to-the-seal-hunt
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,911
    edited August 2018
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    brianlux said:
    The pilot whale.  Gentle, sensitive, intelligent.  People still kill these and claim they need to for survival?  I call bullshit.

    Some of the same people who are down with the idea of killing these beautiful, innocent creatures argue adamantly against executing child murderers and the like.
    I don't see the connection. Being anti-DP and being pro-whaling involve completely different reasons and facts and motives.
    (obviously I'm anti-both, but my being against the whaling has literally nothing to do with being anti-DP. There isn't a single overlapping principle involved in my reasoning)
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,911
    edited August 2018
    Meltdown99 said:
    We do not kill the white fur seal pups ... thats just an outright lie by the animal rights activist.

    The hunt Canada loves: Why seal clubbing will never die

    https://nationalpost.com/news/canada-is-never-ever-going-to-stop-killing-seals-your-tell-all-guide-to-the-seal-hunt
    Right - it is only legal to kill seal pups once they shed their white coats, which starts happening when they are about 12 days old, and over 98% of the seals killed during the hunt are under 3 months of age. Yeah, that's MUCH better. :neutral: The seal hunt is inherently inhumane based on internationally recognized standards of humane slaughter.
    I really really despise that line, "The hunt Canada loves". The majority of Canadians do not support the seal hunt at all. Less than 40% of the population supports it, in fact.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    The article also stated that pigs and chicken aren't on this earth but a mere few months as well...

    I have no problem with inuk conducting seal hunts ... I believe its in their treaties with the government ... like the government really honours there treaties...but they do have treaty rights.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,911
    Meltdown99 said:
    The article also stated that pigs and chicken aren't on this earth but a mere few months as well...

    I have no problem with inuk conducting seal hunts ... I believe its in their treaties with the government ... like the government really honours there treaties...but they do have treaty rights.
    I think there is a big difference between domestic livestock and wild animals though. In any case, no matter the industry, when inhumane slaughtering practices are being used, it's all bad.
    Of course, it's not just Inuk conducting seal hunts. If it were, it wouldn't be so controversial. Anyway, again, that headline to that article stinks.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    PJ_Soul said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    brianlux said:
    The pilot whale.  Gentle, sensitive, intelligent.  People still kill these and claim they need to for survival?  I call bullshit.

    Some of the same people who are down with the idea of killing these beautiful, innocent creatures argue adamantly against executing child murderers and the like.
    I don't see the connection. Being anti-DP and being pro-whaling involve completely different reasons and facts and motives.
    (obviously I'm anti-both, but my being against the whaling has literally nothing to do with being anti-DP. There isn't a single overlapping principle involved in my reasoning)
    Other than one is picking and choosing the conditions where death is acceptable.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,911
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    brianlux said:
    The pilot whale.  Gentle, sensitive, intelligent.  People still kill these and claim they need to for survival?  I call bullshit.

    Some of the same people who are down with the idea of killing these beautiful, innocent creatures argue adamantly against executing child murderers and the like.
    I don't see the connection. Being anti-DP and being pro-whaling involve completely different reasons and facts and motives.
    (obviously I'm anti-both, but my being against the whaling has literally nothing to do with being anti-DP. There isn't a single overlapping principle involved in my reasoning)
    Other than one is picking and choosing the conditions where death is acceptable.
    No, not really. Not when whale slaughters involve the food chain. That alone makes the two issues completely separate. But also because anti-DP positions has little to nothing to do with the nature of one's death.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata

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