Inuk father faces online backlash after sharing photo of beluga harvest

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Inuk father faces online backlash after sharing photo of beluga harvest

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/inuk-father-faces-online-backlash-after-sharing-photo-of-beluga-harvest-1.4047872

People are just ignorant ... this is their way of life...
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    edited August 2018
    Meltdown99 said:
    Inuk father faces online backlash after sharing photo of beluga harvest

    https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/inuk-father-faces-online-backlash-after-sharing-photo-of-beluga-harvest-1.4047872

    People are just ignorant ... this is their way of life...
    People are ignorant, that's for sure.
    On the other hand, I wonder how long after becoming a social media user do you get to keep using your heritage as a reason to engage in behaviours that society frowns on. 
    Like, what's the half-life on killing highly intelligent mammals for "food security" in a modern society where you live under a functioning capitalism and use social media to justify it.
    I mean, you are complaining about the price of dried mangos??  A fruit from the tropics being expensive in the Arctic isn't a justification for killing a whale, it ain't justification for anything lol
    It's common sense and the irony of it is thick.
    Still, no reason for people to be shitty.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    It's not the Inuk way of life to eat mangos or post on Twitter, so at what point do they have to give up killing whales?  I don't know, but I feel like the timer is on and the clock is ticking.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    edited August 2018
    Don't be fooled, it is not  the Inuit way of life to hunt whales.  It's the Inuit's ancestors way of life.  I respect that this was once there way of life but it is no longer, and it is unsustainable.  Why would ANYONE want to kill endangered species?  For a so called "way of life" that is no more?  It cannot be excused in that way.
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  • PJWGIII
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    brianlux said:
    Don't be fooled, it is not  the Inuit way of life to hunt whales.  It's the Inuit's ancestors way of life.  I respect that this was once there way of life but it is no longer, and it is unsustainable.  Why would ANYONE want to kill endangered species?  For a so called "way of life" that is no more?  It cannot be excused in that way.
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  • Meltdown99
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    brianlux said:
    Don't be fooled, it is not  the Inuit way of life to hunt whales.  It's the Inuit's ancestors way of life.  I respect that this was once there way of life but it is no longer, and it is unsustainable.  Why would ANYONE want to kill endangered species?  For a so called "way of life" that is no more?  It cannot be excused in that way.
    I'm not fooled it is their way of life...hate to break it to you bud they were here far longer than you and your ancestors and the European conquerers they do not your permission to hunt or kill...
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  • Meltdown99
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    rgambs said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Inuk father faces online backlash after sharing photo of beluga harvest

    https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/inuk-father-faces-online-backlash-after-sharing-photo-of-beluga-harvest-1.4047872

    People are just ignorant ... this is their way of life...
    People are ignorant, that's for sure.
    On the other hand, I wonder how long after becoming a social media user do you get to keep using your heritage as a reason to engage in behaviours that society frowns on. 
    Like, what's the half-life on killing highly intelligent mammals for "food security" in a modern society where you live under a functioning capitalism and use social media to justify it.
    I mean, you are complaining about the price of dried mangos??  A fruit from the tropics being expensive in the Arctic isn't a justification for killing a whale, it ain't justification for anything lol
    It's common sense and the irony of it is thick.
    Still, no reason for people to be shitty.
    So what if they use social media?  Once again the Inuit do not need your permission, especially the permission of governments installed by their European conquerers.  Oh dear lord, have you heard, the Inuit can access the internet and post on social media ... quick ban their hunting and their traditional ways ... would this surprise you, some Inuit no longer use dog sleds, they have snow machines....yes, I know, how dare they use modern machinery ... LMFAO ....
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Life in the North is tough, hunting is a necessity ... but most importantly when First Nations and the Inuit hunt they do not need your permission...
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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,895
    edited August 2018
    So what happens to their tradition when the whale is extinct.  What do they move on to
     Because  they could just move on to that now . No?


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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    lastexitlondon said:
    So what happens to their tradition when the whale is extinct.  What do they move on to
     Because  they could just move on to that now . No?
    I doubt where they live the whale is going to go extinct.  This is there way a life, why do europeans and europeans conquerers think they have a right to tell them how to live?
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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,895
    I'm not telling them. I wonder if it's an endangered animal it means it WILL become extinct . So what then is what I ask?


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  • Meltdown99
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    Another thing ... the First Nations and Inuit are not the cause of a species going extinct ... once again it was the European conquerers who along with clear cutting land for farming has done the most harm to wildlife in NA...
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  • lastexitlondon
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    I understand . But what happens when the whale is gone. 


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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    lastexitlondon said:
    I understand . But what happens when the whale is gone. 
    And I say, who says they won't have whale to hunt?
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    5 things you might not know about Indigenous hunting and fishing rights

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sudbury/hunters-and-gatherers-indigenous-hunting-fishing-rights-explained-1.4347488

    It's their right to hunt and fish ... 
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    lastexitlondon said:
    I understand . But what happens when the whale is gone. 
    Whale is only 1 of many food sources the Inuit rely on.  The Inuit can take care of themselves.  Only the strong survive that far north...
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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,895
    I can imagine  how hard it is. There are many sustainable  animals .


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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    edited August 2018
    Meltdown99 said:
    5 things you might not know about Indigenous hunting and fishing rights

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sudbury/hunters-and-gatherers-indigenous-hunting-fishing-rights-explained-1.4347488

    It's their right to hunt and fish ... 
    And I believe it is my task/duty, what ever the fuck you call it- to protect my planet.  I'm looking at the bigger picture.  I'm not going to support a custom that is no longer necessary for these people's survival.  I respect native peoples and have come to their defense at least as much as anyone on these forums but I am not going to put anyone's customs above protecting the planet.  It starts and ends with the ocean and its all connected. 
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662

    I cannot put it any better than this:


    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/sep/21/sea-shepherd-paul-watson-whales


    Do you see any situation where it's okay to hunt a whale, say Indigenous people who have for centuries been living off whale meat and blubber?

    You know, everything has changed because we have a population of seven billion people on the planet right now, and the oceans are dying. The oceans have been so severely diminished that there's a good chance we could kill them. And if the oceans die, we die. In light of that prospect I find it very difficult to be sympathetic to any cultural needs in order to destroy endangered species. Yeah, sure, it isn't the Inuit's fault that the whales have been diminished, but they can finish the job. When you get right down to it, it's all about human beings. I don't divide them into groups – the human species has been an extremely destructive species and has the potential to destroy the life support system for humanity. So this traditional stuff really gets to me – anything that involves killing an endangered species or destroying a habitat, if that involves tradition, I say ecology comes before tradition. I'd rather be ecologically correct than politically correct.



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  • Meltdown99
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    edited August 2018
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYMEoFOZavs
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    Meltdown99 said:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYMEoFOZavs
    OK fine, I think the Inuit should practice the parts of the culture that are not harming the world that sustains them. It would be a shame to lose all of their culture, and to be assimilated and lost would be terrible.  But killing off the last of the whales?  How is that keeping culture alive?  It's not, it's foolishness and self-defeating. 

    Ecological balance always trumps harmful cultural practices in a world that is able to support us. Unless you want most or all human and large mammal life to cease, it just makes more sense to be ecologically correct than politically correct. If survival is your objective, you have to look at the science of ecology.
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