Should white people be able to appropriate black hairstyles (afro, braids, dreadlocks)

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  • Posts: 31,437
    edited August 2018
    unsung said:
    Yes, otherwise you are a racist.  If you defend yourself you are a racist.  If you don’t want to be minimized you are a white supremacist.  Is that how it goes halifax?

    *Those rules apply only if you are white.  Black/brown/purple/yellow pride all good.  White is bad*

    If you made something of yourself it isn’t because of sacrifice and hard work, it is because of privilege.  Same rule applies as above.

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Posts: 9,535
    And so the blaming and guilt must carry on to a new generation of white people not remotely responsible for the sins of the past?
    I didn’t say anything about blame and guilt. I’m talking about history as well as minorities dealing with racism in the present. Most white people have the luxury of going about their day and can decide if they want to think about these things or not. I’m saying it helps for whites to work to understand minirities reactions to these things. 
  • I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Yes

    LOL, Michael Moore.  Use Bozo the Clown next time for a more credible opinion.
  • Posts: 9,535
    Did you even read my first post in this thread?

    My comment was about our internal amt group discussion. Rather than talk with the hot teacher, it might be better to talk with the ones who have issue with it. After you’re not as agitated. 
  • None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Yes
    brianlux said:
    Just use "thar", it covers all bases.  :lol:
    thar you go ... yup it works.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Yes
    brianlux said:
    The article linked below makes some sensible points.  This one stood out:

    Historians and anthropologists have found evidence of the 'do in ancient Egypt, Germanic tribes, Vikings, Pacific Islanders, early Christians, the Aborigines and the New Guineans as well as the Somali, the Galla, the Maasai, the Ashanti and the Fulani tribes of Africa.
    As University of Richmond professor Bert Ashe writes in "Twisted: My Dreadlock Chronicles," the better question is, "Who hasn't worn dreadlocks at one time or another?"

    and

    "...My research informed me that Indian monks wore them long before they reached the Western Hemisphere, so I'm not sure anyone has any particular claim."

    So Thoughts, next time someone claims you are culturally appropriating blacks you can honestly say to them, "So I guess you also think I'm culturally appropriating  Indian monks, Egyptians, people of Germanic tribes, Vikings, Pacific Islanders, early Christians, Aborigines and the New Guineans as well as the Somali, the Galla, the Maasai, the Ashanti and the Fulani tribes of Africa?"  That should cool their heels for a while!





    So we don't have start a claim with UN on who has rights to the dreadlock?  
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • And black women are supposed to have straight hair? Am I missing the point of this whole thread!!!

    The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08

  • Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,642
    edited August 2018
    Yes
    unsung said:
    LOL, Michael Moore.  Use Bozo the Clown next time for a more credible opinion.
    It doesn't matter who said that.
    "Ignorance leads to fear, fear leads to hate. Trump knew that part of the equation really well." A truer statement could not be said. It's fact, not opinion. Bozo the Clown would be just as correct if he'd been the one to say it.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Sweden Posts: 4,004
    It's like a pendulum sometimes it swings over too much on one side and sometimes too much on the other side. It needs to have balance. 
  • Sweden Posts: 4,004
    PJ_Soul said:
    It doesn't matter who said that.
    "Ignorance leads to fear, fear leads to hate. Trump knew that part of the equation really well." A truer statement could not be said. It's fact, not opinion. Bozo the Clown would be just as correct if he'd been the one to say it.
    Does ignorance really lead to fear? It doesn't sound right in my ears but I'm probably wrong. :)
  • Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,642
    Yes
    Annafalk said:
    It's like a pendulum sometimes it swings over too much on one side and sometimes too much on the other side. It needs to have balance. 
    I totally agree with the pendulum metaphor. I said the same thing to a friend of mine who had a day where he was particularly doom and gloomy about Trump and all that shit that goes along with him. The problem is, how do we slow the pendulum after it's seemed to have picked up steam??
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Yes
    PJ_Soul said:
    I totally agree with the pendulum metaphor. I said the same thing to a friend of mine who had a day where he was particularly doom and gloomy about Trump and all that shit that goes along with him. The problem is, how do we slow the pendulum after it's seemed to have picked up steam??
    We can't do anything about the executive branch at this point. But the legislative branch is supposed to be a check on the executive branch, and they've been derelict in their duty there. So the way we (in the US) can help slow the pendulum is to quit sending any more trumphumpers to DC. The 2018 election matters. Reject incumbents who have enabled tRUmp's bullshit. Reject candidates who have pledged to support tRUmp's agenda, or who have received endorsements from tRUmp. Elect legislators who will represent and fight for their constituents rather than carry water for Cheetolini. 
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • Sweden Posts: 4,004
    edited August 2018
    PJ_Soul said:
    I totally agree with the pendulum metaphor. I said the same thing to a friend of mine who had a day where he was particularly doom and gloomy about Trump and all that shit that goes along with him. The problem is, how do we slow the pendulum after it's seemed to have picked up steam??
    I'm not sure, maybe people need to meet and socialize more. We need good leaders that shows us the right way. Right kind of social structure a good society that makes people grow. Good education systems  Most importantly is that people have an occupation. Where I work we have people from all over the world both as workers and patients and we are a very well functioning team. :)
    Post edited by Annafalk on
  • Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,642
    Yes
    Annafalk said:
    Does ignorance really lead to fear? It doesn't sound right in my ears but I'm probably wrong. :)
    Yes, I would say that history and present day tells us that it most definitely does.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Sweden Posts: 4,004
    edited August 2018
    PJ_Soul said:
    Yes, I would say that history and present day tells us that it most definitely does.
    Yes, I guess if someone is ignorant and is making up their "own truth" maybe it can be a "bad truth" if it's hurting people in any way.
    Post edited by Annafalk on
  • Posts: 14,870
    edited August 2018
    Yes
    You can be learned and scared . You can be educated and be in fear.


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • Posts: 9,535
    You can be learned and scared . You can be educated and be in fear.
    True. I’ve seen well educated people operate this way. In general they tend to reject what they were taught by holding on to myths and outdated values. They also reject data and facts because they emphasize their own experience and personal observation and weigh it much more heavily over factual information. 
  • Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,642
    edited August 2018
    Yes
    You can be learned and scared . You can be educated and be in fear.
    And you can be educated and ignorant. There are plenty of well-educated racists and xenophobes out there. And I believe that all racists and xenophobes are ignorant in that context, which leads to their fear.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Yes
    As a male who shaves his head, I'd love to have the option of dreadlocks...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,644
    Yes
    unsung said:
    LOL, Michael Moore.  Use Bozo the Clown next time for a more credible opinion.
    I don't get the hate for Michael Moore.  Moore warned us- he predicted Trump would get elected.  So who are the bozos?
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











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