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Who the heck said anything about an open border?LongestRoad said:
I've been defending immigrants. If you can't see the problems that are causing immigrants to flee their countries, there is a real problem. They're not risking their lives and freedom for no reason other than to hang in America. Don't brush the atrocities being commited down south and in our border towns under the carpet so we can have an open border. I'm sure the people fleeing those countries don't want that garbage following them here either. One of your posts talked about legalized drugs to combat the corruption, that would be the biggest mistake ever. Let's take a look at the "legalized" pain management clinics that popped up all over the country when Bush was in office. Now we have the mega pill popping epidemic. Let's stick to just legalizing marijuana, at least that's something that can help some people, you never hear of someone overdosing on weed and maybe if all the leaders of the world passed around the peace pipe before starting their talks more may be accomplished towards peace. lol. And no I don't smoke.brianlux said:LongestRoad said:
You are also twisting my words. Are you saying there are only criminal American citizens?? There has never been a criminal from south of the border come into this country? Stop trying to focus on twisting my words to sound like I think the majority of immigrants coming into this country are criminals. But you can bet your ass I don't want any of the drug dealing rapist gang members coming into this country no matter how small a percentage there is of them. Not one of those scumbags should be able to sneak in. Not only for the people that are already here but also for the immigrants that those low lifes try to prey on. Are the liberals able to comprehend that without twisting my words? I have a hunch not. loloftenreading said:LongestRoad said:the response above is twisting my words
No, it isn't. Your words weren't even used, let alone twisted. H2TM was responding to your comment concerning perceived criminality among immigrants.
Why do you focus so much on the outliers? You do know that every group has it's criminal element, right? But, that really has little to do with the topic of immigration here anyway and yet you keep focusing on it. Are your letting fear talk? And your wording... "criminals from the south", "drug dealing rapist gang members", "scumbags". You really set yourself up for coming across as having some serious prejudices. You never talk about the vast majority of these people who are simply trying to flee from a terrible situation. You express no empathy for the down-trodden. You only talk about the outliers, those few nefarious souls (and yes there are some) but almost nothing about the vast many who are victims of injustice. Your viewpoint is extremely narrow. And I'm not going to claim that is because you are a "conservative" the way you categorize several of us as "liberals". No, I suspect your viewpoint is narrow because you are fearful. Good God, are these supposedly bad people beating down your door, raping your female family members, roaming your streets like packs of wolves and selling drugs behind your house? Jeez, I hope not!
I suggest you do a little research on Portugal's decriminalization of all drugs, so you actually know how such an idea can really work well.
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LongestRoad said:
I've been defending immigrants. If you can't see the problems that are causing immigrants to flee their countries, there is a real problem. They're not risking their lives and freedom for no reason other than to hang in America. Don't brush the atrocities being commited down south and in our border towns under the carpet so we can have an open border. I'm sure the people fleeing those countries don't want that garbage following them here either. One of your posts talked about legalized drugs to combat the corruption, that would be the biggest mistake ever. Let's take a look at the "legalized" pain management clinics that popped up all over the country when Bush was in office. Now we have the mega pill popping epidemic. Let's stick to just legalizing marijuana, at least that's something that can help some people, you never hear of someone overdosing on weed and maybe if all the leaders of the world passed around the peace pipe before starting their talks more may be accomplished towards peace. lol. And no I don't smoke.brianlux said:LongestRoad said:
You are also twisting my words. Are you saying there are only criminal American citizens?? There has never been a criminal from south of the border come into this country? Stop trying to focus on twisting my words to sound like I think the majority of immigrants coming into this country are criminals. But you can bet your ass I don't want any of the drug dealing rapist gang members coming into this country no matter how small a percentage there is of them. Not one of those scumbags should be able to sneak in. Not only for the people that are already here but also for the immigrants that those low lifes try to prey on. Are the liberals able to comprehend that without twisting my words? I have a hunch not. loloftenreading said:LongestRoad said:the response above is twisting my words
No, it isn't. Your words weren't even used, let alone twisted. H2TM was responding to your comment concerning perceived criminality among immigrants.
Why do you focus so much on the outliers? You do know that every group has it's criminal element, right? But, that really has little to do with the topic of immigration here anyway and yet you keep focusing on it. Are your letting fear talk? And your wording... "criminals from the south", "drug dealing rapist gang members", "scumbags". You really set yourself up for coming across as having some serious prejudices. You never talk about the vast majority of these people who are simply trying to flee from a terrible situation. You express no empathy for the down-trodden. You only talk about the outliers, those few nefarious souls (and yes there are some) but almost nothing about the vast many who are victims of injustice. Your viewpoint is extremely narrow. And I'm not going to claim that is because you are a "conservative" the way you categorize several of us as "liberals". No, I suspect your viewpoint is narrow because you are fearful. Good God, are these supposedly bad people beating down your door, raping your female family members, roaming your streets like packs of wolves and selling drugs behind your house? Jeez, I hope not!Whoa, first of all I'm really surprised you say I "can't see the problems that are causing immigrants to flee their countries" when I've mentioned that several times. And when have I "brushed aside the atrocities committed down south and in our border towns under thee carpet"? I have not done that. Those statements left me scratching my head.As for legalizing ALL drugs, I have held that opinion for decades. It's not a popular opinion, it is never going to happen, but I belief it would be a very good idea. Users are going to use, legal or not. Plus, making drugs illegal increases crime. Is this not a fact? I think so. Plus, our prisons have huge numbers of people in them that committed no crime other that shooting up some junk or smoking something or snorting something up their nose. Instead of spending more money on prisons, I think it would make more sense to set up more rehab centers, and improve education and reduce poverty so that people would be less likely to turn to drugs. If we spent more energy on improving the environment and promoting healthy choices, fewer people would turn to drugs. These are all reasons I stand by my belief that ALL drugs should be made legal or at the very least, decriminalized.As for weed, yeah, seeing Trump and Jong-un would be rather entertaining. But the thing is, pot makes some people gooffy or even stupid so don't expect too much!"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
You lost me at, “open border.”LongestRoad said:
I've been defending immigrants. If you can't see the problems that are causing immigrants to flee their countries, there is a real problem. They're not risking their lives and freedom for no reason other than to hang in America. Don't brush the atrocities being commited down south and in our border towns under the carpet so we can have an open border. I'm sure the people fleeing those countries don't want that garbage following them here either. One of your posts talked about legalized drugs to combat the corruption, that would be the biggest mistake ever. Let's take a look at the "legalized" pain management clinics that popped up all over the country when Bush was in office. Now we have the mega pill popping epidemic. Let's stick to just legalizing marijuana, at least that's something that can help some people, you never hear of someone overdosing on weed and maybe if all the leaders of the world passed around the peace pipe before starting their talks more may be accomplished towards peace. lol. And no I don't smoke.brianlux said:LongestRoad said:
You are also twisting my words. Are you saying there are only criminal American citizens?? There has never been a criminal from south of the border come into this country? Stop trying to focus on twisting my words to sound like I think the majority of immigrants coming into this country are criminals. But you can bet your ass I don't want any of the drug dealing rapist gang members coming into this country no matter how small a percentage there is of them. Not one of those scumbags should be able to sneak in. Not only for the people that are already here but also for the immigrants that those low lifes try to prey on. Are the liberals able to comprehend that without twisting my words? I have a hunch not. loloftenreading said:LongestRoad said:the response above is twisting my words
No, it isn't. Your words weren't even used, let alone twisted. H2TM was responding to your comment concerning perceived criminality among immigrants.
Why do you focus so much on the outliers? You do know that every group has it's criminal element, right? But, that really has little to do with the topic of immigration here anyway and yet you keep focusing on it. Are your letting fear talk? And your wording... "criminals from the south", "drug dealing rapist gang members", "scumbags". You really set yourself up for coming across as having some serious prejudices. You never talk about the vast majority of these people who are simply trying to flee from a terrible situation. You express no empathy for the down-trodden. You only talk about the outliers, those few nefarious souls (and yes there are some) but almost nothing about the vast many who are victims of injustice. Your viewpoint is extremely narrow. And I'm not going to claim that is because you are a "conservative" the way you categorize several of us as "liberals". No, I suspect your viewpoint is narrow because you are fearful. Good God, are these supposedly bad people beating down your door, raping your female family members, roaming your streets like packs of wolves and selling drugs behind your house? Jeez, I hope not!09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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"Don't brush the atrocities being commited down south and in our border towns under the carpet so we can have an open border."I think it must be the carpet longest is talking about. You know, like with fringe edges:
or tears:
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No democrat wants open borders, let’s not get crazy.
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Humans are silly... one species... on one rock all by ourselves... in a massive universe... drawing imaginary lines... calling those that cross the made up lines, illegal
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Basically territorial like any other animal on the planet- coveting resources and guarding against rivals competing for resources.
Watch the docu-movie Chimpanzee and note the similarities between our species.
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Only animals (other than humans) generally understand bio-regions. You won't find North American Coyotes fighting for resources with Serengeti Plains Gazelles.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:Basically territorial like any other animal on the planet- coveting resources and guarding against rivals competing for resources.
Watch the docu-movie Chimpanzee and note the similarities between our species.
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brianlux said:
Only animals (other than humans) generally understand bio-regions. You won't find North American Coyotes fighting for resources with Serengeti Plains Gazelles.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:Basically territorial like any other animal on the planet- coveting resources and guarding against rivals competing for resources.
Watch the docu-movie Chimpanzee and note the similarities between our species.
Correct.
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That only because they are in different continents. Polar bears and Penquins have never had any conflicts either.brianlux said:
Only animals (other than humans) generally understand bio-regions. You won't find North American Coyotes fighting for resources with Serengeti Plains Gazelles.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:Basically territorial like any other animal on the planet- coveting resources and guarding against rivals competing for resources.
Watch the docu-movie Chimpanzee and note the similarities between our species.
You dont think if the Gazelles suddenly appeared in North America there wouldn’t be conflict with coyotes, or some other animal living in the region?0 -
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Good point. My analogy sucks.mace1229 said:
That only because they are in different continents. Polar bears and Penquins have never had any conflicts either.brianlux said:
Only animals (other than humans) generally understand bio-regions. You won't find North American Coyotes fighting for resources with Serengeti Plains Gazelles.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:Basically territorial like any other animal on the planet- coveting resources and guarding against rivals competing for resources.
Watch the docu-movie Chimpanzee and note the similarities between our species.
You dont think if the Gazelles suddenly appeared in North America there wouldn’t be conflict with coyotes, or some other animal living in the region?my2hands said:We are a little more advanced than penguins & gazellesWell, we have the ability to reason which means we have the ability to solve problems, work together and get along. But instead we chose to fight instead of make peace and work together. Not saying you mean this, but whenever I hear people excuse our warring ways by saying, "It's just our animal nature" I reply, "So we evolved to the point of being able to reason and do what makes sense for what? For no damn good reason?" Either nature fucked up, or (if there is one) God fucked up, or people are fucking up. You can guess which one I think it is!I choose peace. No more war."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
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brianlux said:
Good point. My analogy sucks.mace1229 said:
That only because they are in different continents. Polar bears and Penquins have never had any conflicts either.brianlux said:
Only animals (other than humans) generally understand bio-regions. You won't find North American Coyotes fighting for resources with Serengeti Plains Gazelles.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:Basically territorial like any other animal on the planet- coveting resources and guarding against rivals competing for resources.
Watch the docu-movie Chimpanzee and note the similarities between our species.
You dont think if the Gazelles suddenly appeared in North America there wouldn’t be conflict with coyotes, or some other animal living in the region?my2hands said:We are a little more advanced than penguins & gazellesWell, we have the ability to reason which means we have the ability to solve problems, work together and get along. But instead we chose to fight instead of make peace and work together. Not saying you mean this, but whenever I hear people excuse our warring ways by saying, "It's just our animal nature" I reply, "So we evolved to the point of being able to reason and do what makes sense for what? For no damn good reason?" Either nature fucked up, or (if there is one) God fucked up, or people are fucking up. You can guess which one I think it is!I choose peace. No more war.
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That about says it all. Thank you!my2hands said:brianlux said:
Good point. My analogy sucks.mace1229 said:
That only because they are in different continents. Polar bears and Penquins have never had any conflicts either.brianlux said:
Only animals (other than humans) generally understand bio-regions. You won't find North American Coyotes fighting for resources with Serengeti Plains Gazelles.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:Basically territorial like any other animal on the planet- coveting resources and guarding against rivals competing for resources.
Watch the docu-movie Chimpanzee and note the similarities between our species.
You dont think if the Gazelles suddenly appeared in North America there wouldn’t be conflict with coyotes, or some other animal living in the region?my2hands said:We are a little more advanced than penguins & gazellesWell, we have the ability to reason which means we have the ability to solve problems, work together and get along. But instead we chose to fight instead of make peace and work together. Not saying you mean this, but whenever I hear people excuse our warring ways by saying, "It's just our animal nature" I reply, "So we evolved to the point of being able to reason and do what makes sense for what? For no damn good reason?" Either nature fucked up, or (if there is one) God fucked up, or people are fucking up. You can guess which one I think it is!I choose peace. No more war.https://youtu.be/fj-10lIrboM
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my2hands said:brianlux said:
Good point. My analogy sucks.mace1229 said:
That only because they are in different continents. Polar bears and Penquins have never had any conflicts either.brianlux said:
Only animals (other than humans) generally understand bio-regions. You won't find North American Coyotes fighting for resources with Serengeti Plains Gazelles.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:Basically territorial like any other animal on the planet- coveting resources and guarding against rivals competing for resources.
Watch the docu-movie Chimpanzee and note the similarities between our species.
You dont think if the Gazelles suddenly appeared in North America there wouldn’t be conflict with coyotes, or some other animal living in the region?my2hands said:We are a little more advanced than penguins & gazellesWell, we have the ability to reason which means we have the ability to solve problems, work together and get along. But instead we chose to fight instead of make peace and work together. Not saying you mean this, but whenever I hear people excuse our warring ways by saying, "It's just our animal nature" I reply, "So we evolved to the point of being able to reason and do what makes sense for what? For no damn good reason?" Either nature fucked up, or (if there is one) God fucked up, or people are fucking up. You can guess which one I think it is!I choose peace. No more war.https://youtu.be/fj-10lIrboM
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Thanks, Hugh.HughFreakingDillon said:
he's attacking the term, not the person it refers to. come on.LongestRoad said:
Please tell me you're not defending a murderer.HesCalledDyer said:
"An illegal"unsung said:I mean because an illegal killed her.
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That wasn't meant for you. I'm just tired of the reasons immigrants fleeing are being minimized.brianlux said:LongestRoad said:
I've been defending immigrants. If you can't see the problems that are causing immigrants to flee their countries, there is a real problem. They're not risking their lives and freedom for no reason other than to hang in America. Don't brush the atrocities being commited down south and in our border towns under the carpet so we can have an open border. I'm sure the people fleeing those countries don't want that garbage following them here either. One of your posts talked about legalized drugs to combat the corruption, that would be the biggest mistake ever. Let's take a look at the "legalized" pain management clinics that popped up all over the country when Bush was in office. Now we have the mega pill popping epidemic. Let's stick to just legalizing marijuana, at least that's something that can help some people, you never hear of someone overdosing on weed and maybe if all the leaders of the world passed around the peace pipe before starting their talks more may be accomplished towards peace. lol. And no I don't smoke.brianlux said:LongestRoad said:
You are also twisting my words. Are you saying there are only criminal American citizens?? There has never been a criminal from south of the border come into this country? Stop trying to focus on twisting my words to sound like I think the majority of immigrants coming into this country are criminals. But you can bet your ass I don't want any of the drug dealing rapist gang members coming into this country no matter how small a percentage there is of them. Not one of those scumbags should be able to sneak in. Not only for the people that are already here but also for the immigrants that those low lifes try to prey on. Are the liberals able to comprehend that without twisting my words? I have a hunch not. loloftenreading said:LongestRoad said:the response above is twisting my words
No, it isn't. Your words weren't even used, let alone twisted. H2TM was responding to your comment concerning perceived criminality among immigrants.
Why do you focus so much on the outliers? You do know that every group has it's criminal element, right? But, that really has little to do with the topic of immigration here anyway and yet you keep focusing on it. Are your letting fear talk? And your wording... "criminals from the south", "drug dealing rapist gang members", "scumbags". You really set yourself up for coming across as having some serious prejudices. You never talk about the vast majority of these people who are simply trying to flee from a terrible situation. You express no empathy for the down-trodden. You only talk about the outliers, those few nefarious souls (and yes there are some) but almost nothing about the vast many who are victims of injustice. Your viewpoint is extremely narrow. And I'm not going to claim that is because you are a "conservative" the way you categorize several of us as "liberals". No, I suspect your viewpoint is narrow because you are fearful. Good God, are these supposedly bad people beating down your door, raping your female family members, roaming your streets like packs of wolves and selling drugs behind your house? Jeez, I hope not!Whoa, first of all I'm really surprised you say I "can't see the problems that are causing immigrants to flee their countries" when I've mentioned that several times. And when have I "brushed aside the atrocities committed down south and in our border towns under thee carpet"? I have not done that. Those statements left me scratching my head.As for legalizing ALL drugs, I have held that opinion for decades. It's not a popular opinion, it is never going to happen, but I belief it would be a very good idea. Users are going to use, legal or not. Plus, making drugs illegal increases crime. Is this not a fact? I think so. Plus, our prisons have huge numbers of people in them that committed no crime other that shooting up some junk or smoking something or snorting something up their nose. Instead of spending more money on prisons, I think it would make more sense to set up more rehab centers, and improve education and reduce poverty so that people would be less likely to turn to drugs. If we spent more energy on improving the environment and promoting healthy choices, fewer people would turn to drugs. These are all reasons I stand by my belief that ALL drugs should be made legal or at the very least, decriminalized.As for weed, yeah, seeing Trump and Jong-un would be rather entertaining. But the thing is, pot makes some people gooffy or even stupid so don't expect too much!
For some leaders, they may already be stupid.
The rehab centers are a lot of the time short term solutions. If people have access to drugs once they get out and even sometimes when they're still in rehab it's not enough to fix the problem. Education, "just say no to drugs" education didn't stop all the kids from getting into drugs. Reduce poverty? There's plenty, plenty of wealthy drug addicts.
Instead of legalizing drugs, make it a mandatory life in prison for drug dealers up to the death penalty(that'll reduce the prison population) if a drug related fatality can be linked to them. They're murderers. If not immediate as in some cases, eventually they murder people and destroy families. There are people with addictive personalities who can't do anything in moderation. Remove the drug dealers, remove the problem. Problem solved.0 -
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