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Technically a sociopath can also do that.PJ_Soul said:
Yes, when you remove all empathy and humanity from the equation, it is that simple. Too bad that impossible in practice unless you're evil and/or a psychopath.unsung said:
It does.Ledbetterman10 said:
I just hate extremes. The illegal immigration extremes are....PJ_Soul said:
It's really just the difference between a narrow view and wide view... I think we all know which view is the best one.Ledbetterman10 said:
That's fair enough. After all, he didn't exactly have anything to back up his numbers. And yet, when HughFreakinDillion linked to a study that seems to be from credible source, I took THAT with a grain of salt. Why? Well I hate to admit it, but maybe I'm looking to be convinced of that someone like Meltdown is right about immigration. I guess I'm just on the conservative side of the fence on this immigration thing.PJ_Soul said:
Ledbetterman, If I were you I'd never take what meltdown says as an informed opinion. He has no real idea of how immigrants benefit the economy at the end of the day, and therefore just assumes they don't by looking at selective info from a biased position. Once he finds enough info to make it look like his preconceived notion is correct, he stops, and presents his conclusions in a way that makes some think it's an informed opinion.dignin said:
Wait? Instead of doing a little research to find some facts you settle for "the answer I kinda looking for", from a guy providing an uniformed opinion?Ledbetterman10 said:Meltdown99 said:
I fail to see how they help the economy? The Ontario government spends around 11000 per child to educate, Many of the asylum seeker have more than 3 kids ... 3 kids alone is $33000/ year in services ... these asylum seekers will never pay that amount of tax, not the mention the extra strain on our government run health care.Ledbetterman10 said:
You'll have to excuse my ignorance but again, I'm not following you. How do asylum seekers and refugees help the economy?HughFreakingDillon said:
economically.Ledbetterman10 said:
What's the benefit? I'm asking this seriously because I really don't know the answer.HughFreakingDillon said:
There always will be, but in the end the benefit outweighs it, if it's done right. why are they jamming all of these people in one of the most densely populated cities in canada?Meltdown99 said:Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.
http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674
Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...
And I made a point here to say "asylum seekers and refugees" because that's what the article says. Meltdown99, who posted the article, referred to it as illegal immigration, which is different.
Yeah this was the answer I kinda looking for. I think it's a stress on the American (or in this case, Canadian) government to provide for these asylum seekers. It doesn't seem like it helps the economy like HFD has suggested it does.
Yikes.
Conservative: GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY!
Liberal: We're all immigrants! Don't be a hypocrite.
I think the answers fall someone where in the middle.
Illegal.
Legal.
That is it.0 -
Yes, that is true (I recently learned that a psychopath is always also a sociopath, but a sociopath is necessarily not a psychopath, because if they were, they'd just be a psychopath, lol).mrussel1 said:
Technically a sociopath can also do that.PJ_Soul said:
Yes, when you remove all empathy and humanity from the equation, it is that simple. Too bad that impossible in practice unless you're evil and/or a psychopath.unsung said:
It does.Ledbetterman10 said:
I just hate extremes. The illegal immigration extremes are....PJ_Soul said:
It's really just the difference between a narrow view and wide view... I think we all know which view is the best one.Ledbetterman10 said:
That's fair enough. After all, he didn't exactly have anything to back up his numbers. And yet, when HughFreakinDillion linked to a study that seems to be from credible source, I took THAT with a grain of salt. Why? Well I hate to admit it, but maybe I'm looking to be convinced of that someone like Meltdown is right about immigration. I guess I'm just on the conservative side of the fence on this immigration thing.PJ_Soul said:
Ledbetterman, If I were you I'd never take what meltdown says as an informed opinion. He has no real idea of how immigrants benefit the economy at the end of the day, and therefore just assumes they don't by looking at selective info from a biased position. Once he finds enough info to make it look like his preconceived notion is correct, he stops, and presents his conclusions in a way that makes some think it's an informed opinion.dignin said:
Wait? Instead of doing a little research to find some facts you settle for "the answer I kinda looking for", from a guy providing an uniformed opinion?Ledbetterman10 said:Meltdown99 said:
I fail to see how they help the economy? The Ontario government spends around 11000 per child to educate, Many of the asylum seeker have more than 3 kids ... 3 kids alone is $33000/ year in services ... these asylum seekers will never pay that amount of tax, not the mention the extra strain on our government run health care.Ledbetterman10 said:
You'll have to excuse my ignorance but again, I'm not following you. How do asylum seekers and refugees help the economy?HughFreakingDillon said:
economically.Ledbetterman10 said:
What's the benefit? I'm asking this seriously because I really don't know the answer.HughFreakingDillon said:
There always will be, but in the end the benefit outweighs it, if it's done right. why are they jamming all of these people in one of the most densely populated cities in canada?Meltdown99 said:Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.
http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674
Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...
And I made a point here to say "asylum seekers and refugees" because that's what the article says. Meltdown99, who posted the article, referred to it as illegal immigration, which is different.
Yeah this was the answer I kinda looking for. I think it's a stress on the American (or in this case, Canadian) government to provide for these asylum seekers. It doesn't seem like it helps the economy like HFD has suggested it does.
Yikes.
Conservative: GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY!
Liberal: We're all immigrants! Don't be a hypocrite.
I think the answers fall someone where in the middle.
Illegal.
Legal.
That is it.
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Half-joking. It's more the language of the sentence than the actual content that I like. Sounds like something a you'd hear in the play Hamilton or something.PJ_Soul said:
Are you joking?? That last part is the exact opposite of admirable, and reflective of a fair bit of ignorance.Ledbetterman10 said:
This is almost poetic. Read your comment out loud in an English accent. It's very dignified, and an admirable way to end an argument.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Let's just agree not to respond to each other from now on. I see your comments/opinions as worthless as you see mine, but at least I live in the country of which I speak.
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Does that make Kate Steinle's family evil and psychopaths too?PJ_Soul said:
Yes, when you remove all empathy and humanity from the equation, it is that simple. Too bad that impossible in practice unless you're evil and/or a psychopath.unsung said:
It does.Ledbetterman10 said:
I just hate extremes. The illegal immigration extremes are....PJ_Soul said:
It's really just the difference between a narrow view and wide view... I think we all know which view is the best one.Ledbetterman10 said:
That's fair enough. After all, he didn't exactly have anything to back up his numbers. And yet, when HughFreakinDillion linked to a study that seems to be from credible source, I took THAT with a grain of salt. Why? Well I hate to admit it, but maybe I'm looking to be convinced of that someone like Meltdown is right about immigration. I guess I'm just on the conservative side of the fence on this immigration thing.PJ_Soul said:
Ledbetterman, If I were you I'd never take what meltdown says as an informed opinion. He has no real idea of how immigrants benefit the economy at the end of the day, and therefore just assumes they don't by looking at selective info from a biased position. Once he finds enough info to make it look like his preconceived notion is correct, he stops, and presents his conclusions in a way that makes some think it's an informed opinion.dignin said:
Wait? Instead of doing a little research to find some facts you settle for "the answer I kinda looking for", from a guy providing an uniformed opinion?Ledbetterman10 said:Meltdown99 said:
I fail to see how they help the economy? The Ontario government spends around 11000 per child to educate, Many of the asylum seeker have more than 3 kids ... 3 kids alone is $33000/ year in services ... these asylum seekers will never pay that amount of tax, not the mention the extra strain on our government run health care.Ledbetterman10 said:
You'll have to excuse my ignorance but again, I'm not following you. How do asylum seekers and refugees help the economy?HughFreakingDillon said:
economically.Ledbetterman10 said:
What's the benefit? I'm asking this seriously because I really don't know the answer.HughFreakingDillon said:
There always will be, but in the end the benefit outweighs it, if it's done right. why are they jamming all of these people in one of the most densely populated cities in canada?Meltdown99 said:Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.
http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674
Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...
And I made a point here to say "asylum seekers and refugees" because that's what the article says. Meltdown99, who posted the article, referred to it as illegal immigration, which is different.
Yeah this was the answer I kinda looking for. I think it's a stress on the American (or in this case, Canadian) government to provide for these asylum seekers. It doesn't seem like it helps the economy like HFD has suggested it does.
Yikes.
Conservative: GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY!
Liberal: We're all immigrants! Don't be a hypocrite.
I think the answers fall someone where in the middle.
Illegal.
Legal.
That is it.0 -
Is this directed at me because you posted it directly after my post?rgambs said:Read more lol
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Does that make Kate Steinle's family evil and psychopaths too?PJ_Soul said:
Yes, when you remove all empathy and humanity from the equation, it is that simple. Too bad that impossible in practice unless you're evil and/or a psychopath.unsung said:
It does.Ledbetterman10 said:
I just hate extremes. The illegal immigration extremes are....PJ_Soul said:
It's really just the difference between a narrow view and wide view... I think we all know which view is the best one.Ledbetterman10 said:
That's fair enough. After all, he didn't exactly have anything to back up his numbers. And yet, when HughFreakinDillion linked to a study that seems to be from credible source, I took THAT with a grain of salt. Why? Well I hate to admit it, but maybe I'm looking to be convinced of that someone like Meltdown is right about immigration. I guess I'm just on the conservative side of the fence on this immigration thing.PJ_Soul said:
Ledbetterman, If I were you I'd never take what meltdown says as an informed opinion. He has no real idea of how immigrants benefit the economy at the end of the day, and therefore just assumes they don't by looking at selective info from a biased position. Once he finds enough info to make it look like his preconceived notion is correct, he stops, and presents his conclusions in a way that makes some think it's an informed opinion.dignin said:
Wait? Instead of doing a little research to find some facts you settle for "the answer I kinda looking for", from a guy providing an uniformed opinion?Ledbetterman10 said:Meltdown99 said:
I fail to see how they help the economy? The Ontario government spends around 11000 per child to educate, Many of the asylum seeker have more than 3 kids ... 3 kids alone is $33000/ year in services ... these asylum seekers will never pay that amount of tax, not the mention the extra strain on our government run health care.Ledbetterman10 said:
You'll have to excuse my ignorance but again, I'm not following you. How do asylum seekers and refugees help the economy?HughFreakingDillon said:
economically.Ledbetterman10 said:
What's the benefit? I'm asking this seriously because I really don't know the answer.HughFreakingDillon said:
There always will be, but in the end the benefit outweighs it, if it's done right. why are they jamming all of these people in one of the most densely populated cities in canada?Meltdown99 said:Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.
http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674
Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...
And I made a point here to say "asylum seekers and refugees" because that's what the article says. Meltdown99, who posted the article, referred to it as illegal immigration, which is different.
Yeah this was the answer I kinda looking for. I think it's a stress on the American (or in this case, Canadian) government to provide for these asylum seekers. It doesn't seem like it helps the economy like HFD has suggested it does.
Yikes.
Conservative: GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY!
Liberal: We're all immigrants! Don't be a hypocrite.
I think the answers fall someone where in the middle.
Illegal.
Legal.
That is it.
I don't understand this comment. Do you mean because the family sued immigration or because the family slammed Trumpfour using her as a political pawn?0 -
unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487I mean because an illegal killed her.0
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"An illegal"unsung said:I mean because an illegal killed her.
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Sure it can, Chief.HesCalledDyer said:
"An illegal"unsung said:I mean because an illegal killed her.
Illegal is not a fucking noun. A human being cannot be "an illegal."0 -
I once heard of a man who some might refer to as an illegal human being. He was made from stolen parts and, conceived under dubious circumstances and was sometimes referred to as a "bastard".I believe the word "illegal" as used above is an adjective. In fact, I'd bet a thousand bucks its an adjective.Now let's look at the word "vinyls". To put it bluntly, there is no fucking thing such as "vinyls"."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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Sorry, illegal alien.HesCalledDyer said:
"An illegal"unsung said:I mean because an illegal killed her.
Illegal is not a fucking noun. A human being cannot be "an illegal."0 -
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never really understood using "alien" in this context. what's wrong with immigrant?unsung said:
Sorry, illegal alien.HesCalledDyer said:
"An illegal"unsung said:I mean because an illegal killed her.
Illegal is not a fucking noun. A human being cannot be "an illegal."By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
It's an old school term that has been bastardized now. The term that is supposed to be used is "undocumented". The term immigrant or alien is now faux pas.HughFreakingDillon said:
never really understood using "alien" in this context. what's wrong with immigrant?unsung said:
Sorry, illegal alien.HesCalledDyer said:
"An illegal"unsung said:I mean because an illegal killed her.
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I thought undocumented was just an adjective, not a noun. I thought it was "undocumented immigrant". not just undocumented. since when is immigrant a faux pas?tempo_n_groove said:
It's an old school term that has been bastardized now. The term that is supposed to be used is "undocumented". The term immigrant or alien is now faux pas.HughFreakingDillon said:
never really understood using "alien" in this context. what's wrong with immigrant?unsung said:
Sorry, illegal alien.HesCalledDyer said:
"An illegal"unsung said:I mean because an illegal killed her.
Illegal is not a fucking noun. A human being cannot be "an illegal."By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Undocumented worker or immigrant. Alien is the bad one, sorry.HughFreakingDillon said:
I thought undocumented was just an adjective, not a noun. I thought it was "undocumented immigrant". not just undocumented. since when is immigrant a faux pas?tempo_n_groove said:
It's an old school term that has been bastardized now. The term that is supposed to be used is "undocumented". The term immigrant or alien is now faux pas.HughFreakingDillon said:
never really understood using "alien" in this context. what's wrong with immigrant?unsung said:
Sorry, illegal alien.HesCalledDyer said:
"An illegal"unsung said:I mean because an illegal killed her.
Illegal is not a fucking noun. A human being cannot be "an illegal."0 -
Boy did this thread die.0
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At the very least, it went wildly astray. That never happens here, haha!tempo_n_groove said:Boy did this thread die.
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People were angry and hurt then an executive order came and a SCOTUS is retiring so people are pissed off at that now...brianlux said:
At the very least, it went wildly astray. That never happens here, haha!tempo_n_groove said:Boy did this thread die.0
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