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Okay. I disagree. I think such "territorial" behaviours are simply non-instinctual reactions to our circumstances. Higher level human reasoning and logic drives it, not instincts. IMO.HughFreakingDillon said:
look, I'm not saying we're "slaves" to territorial instincts, I just think there's a lot of truth in that some of our instincts/behaviours of days gone by can linger. I think being territorial is one of them.PJ_Soul said:
Because at lot of us are paranoid, and just greedy cranky bastards. Not because we're slaves to territorial instincts. Plus, plenty of people do not do that kind of thing, proving my point. Just because we do something it doesn't mean it's because of natural instincts.HughFreakingDillon said:
we are obviously more advanced than penguins and gazelles, but for all our advancements, we are still a territorial species. why else do we put up fences around our properties, even if we are friends with our neighbours?PJ_Soul said:
Yeah really, wtf are we talking about here? Humans are not slaves to instinct. Comparing ourselves to penguins and coyotes and even chimps makes no sense at all, lol. The ONLY problem humans have that leads to borders is greed. That special kind of greed that is truly exclusive to human beings.my2hands said:We are a little more advanced than penguins & gazelles
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PJ_Soul said:
Okay. I disagree. I think such "territorial" behaviours are simply non-instinctual reactions to our circumstances. Higher level human reasoning and logic drives it, not instincts. IMO.HughFreakingDillon said:
look, I'm not saying we're "slaves" to territorial instincts, I just think there's a lot of truth in that some of our instincts/behaviours of days gone by can linger. I think being territorial is one of them.PJ_Soul said:
Because at lot of us are paranoid, and just greedy cranky bastards. Not because we're slaves to territorial instincts. Plus, plenty of people do not do that kind of thing, proving my point. Just because we do something it doesn't mean it's because of natural instincts.HughFreakingDillon said:
we are obviously more advanced than penguins and gazelles, but for all our advancements, we are still a territorial species. why else do we put up fences around our properties, even if we are friends with our neighbours?PJ_Soul said:
Yeah really, wtf are we talking about here? Humans are not slaves to instinct. Comparing ourselves to penguins and coyotes and even chimps makes no sense at all, lol. The ONLY problem humans have that leads to borders is greed. That special kind of greed that is truly exclusive to human beings.my2hands said:We are a little more advanced than penguins & gazelles
Except circumstances have changed throughout the course of history, yet the behaviours have remained constant."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
Thirty Bills Unpaid said:PJ_Soul said:
Okay. I disagree. I think such "territorial" behaviours are simply non-instinctual reactions to our circumstances. Higher level human reasoning and logic drives it, not instincts. IMO.HughFreakingDillon said:
look, I'm not saying we're "slaves" to territorial instincts, I just think there's a lot of truth in that some of our instincts/behaviours of days gone by can linger. I think being territorial is one of them.PJ_Soul said:
Because at lot of us are paranoid, and just greedy cranky bastards. Not because we're slaves to territorial instincts. Plus, plenty of people do not do that kind of thing, proving my point. Just because we do something it doesn't mean it's because of natural instincts.HughFreakingDillon said:
we are obviously more advanced than penguins and gazelles, but for all our advancements, we are still a territorial species. why else do we put up fences around our properties, even if we are friends with our neighbours?PJ_Soul said:
Yeah really, wtf are we talking about here? Humans are not slaves to instinct. Comparing ourselves to penguins and coyotes and even chimps makes no sense at all, lol. The ONLY problem humans have that leads to borders is greed. That special kind of greed that is truly exclusive to human beings.my2hands said:We are a little more advanced than penguins & gazelles
Except circumstances have changed throughout the course of history, yet the behaviours have remained constant.
Yeah, the details surrounding circumstances have changed, but all of those circumstances either did or didn't give cause for people to act out such behaviours (i.e. put up fences, etc). "Territorial" behaviours are and have always been rational, reasoned, and deliberately planned reactions to external factors or lack thereof. They have not been instinctual reactions at any point in the history of modern man IMO. Obviously the real debate here is what's instinctual behaviour and what isn't. I don't think erecting fences (or buying guns, or keeping a baseball bat next to the bed, or installing security systems) is instinctual behaviour at all. Those are all high-level intellectual behaviours as far as I'm concerned. If we were actually a territorial species in the context that you guys are saying, we wouldn't be anywhere near as community-minded as we are, and we would be far more segregated.
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Well put!PJ_Soul said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:PJ_Soul said:
Okay. I disagree. I think such "territorial" behaviours are simply non-instinctual reactions to our circumstances. Higher level human reasoning and logic drives it, not instincts. IMO.HughFreakingDillon said:
look, I'm not saying we're "slaves" to territorial instincts, I just think there's a lot of truth in that some of our instincts/behaviours of days gone by can linger. I think being territorial is one of them.PJ_Soul said:
Because at lot of us are paranoid, and just greedy cranky bastards. Not because we're slaves to territorial instincts. Plus, plenty of people do not do that kind of thing, proving my point. Just because we do something it doesn't mean it's because of natural instincts.HughFreakingDillon said:
we are obviously more advanced than penguins and gazelles, but for all our advancements, we are still a territorial species. why else do we put up fences around our properties, even if we are friends with our neighbours?PJ_Soul said:
Yeah really, wtf are we talking about here? Humans are not slaves to instinct. Comparing ourselves to penguins and coyotes and even chimps makes no sense at all, lol. The ONLY problem humans have that leads to borders is greed. That special kind of greed that is truly exclusive to human beings.my2hands said:We are a little more advanced than penguins & gazelles
Except circumstances have changed throughout the course of history, yet the behaviours have remained constant. Yeah, the details surrounding circumstances have changed, but all of those circumstances either did or didn't give cause for people to act out such behaviours (i.e. put up fences, etc). "Territorial" behaviours are and have always been rational, reasoned, and deliberately planned reactions to external factors or lack thereof. They have not been instinctual reactions at any point in the history of modern man IMO. Obviously the real debate here is what's instinctual behaviour and what isn't. I don't think erecting fences (or buying guns, or keeping a baseball bat next to the bed, or installing security systems) is instinctual behaviour at all. Those are all high-level intellectual behaviours as far as I'm concerned. If we were actually a territorial species in the context that you guys are saying, we wouldn't be anywhere near as community-minded as we are, and we would be far more segregated.
Do you think it could also be a combination of both? For example, we organically decided land could be owned by individuals (territorial behaviour), we fear jealousy and the unrighteousness that would lead one to take our land (instinctive notion, using intellectual behaviour to accommodate that notion through security).
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I guess I don't feel like owning land and then defending it/protecting it is a demonstration of territorial/instinctual behaviour in the first place. Ownership is a deliberate human construct governed by an economic and government system. Once humans created such systems, instincts went right out the window in this context. I think the fact that the vast majority of Earth's human population lives in extremely dense populations, which I think shows that humans are specifically non-territorial in the instinctual sense. The instincts I think do still govern us are far less deliberate. Things like fight or flight, protecting our young, that kind of thing. But again, it all really comes down to how we're defining instinct vs. behaviour governed by rational thought.benjs said:
Well put!PJ_Soul said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:PJ_Soul said:
Okay. I disagree. I think such "territorial" behaviours are simply non-instinctual reactions to our circumstances. Higher level human reasoning and logic drives it, not instincts. IMO.HughFreakingDillon said:
look, I'm not saying we're "slaves" to territorial instincts, I just think there's a lot of truth in that some of our instincts/behaviours of days gone by can linger. I think being territorial is one of them.PJ_Soul said:
Because at lot of us are paranoid, and just greedy cranky bastards. Not because we're slaves to territorial instincts. Plus, plenty of people do not do that kind of thing, proving my point. Just because we do something it doesn't mean it's because of natural instincts.HughFreakingDillon said:
we are obviously more advanced than penguins and gazelles, but for all our advancements, we are still a territorial species. why else do we put up fences around our properties, even if we are friends with our neighbours?PJ_Soul said:
Yeah really, wtf are we talking about here? Humans are not slaves to instinct. Comparing ourselves to penguins and coyotes and even chimps makes no sense at all, lol. The ONLY problem humans have that leads to borders is greed. That special kind of greed that is truly exclusive to human beings.my2hands said:We are a little more advanced than penguins & gazelles
Except circumstances have changed throughout the course of history, yet the behaviours have remained constant. Yeah, the details surrounding circumstances have changed, but all of those circumstances either did or didn't give cause for people to act out such behaviours (i.e. put up fences, etc). "Territorial" behaviours are and have always been rational, reasoned, and deliberately planned reactions to external factors or lack thereof. They have not been instinctual reactions at any point in the history of modern man IMO. Obviously the real debate here is what's instinctual behaviour and what isn't. I don't think erecting fences (or buying guns, or keeping a baseball bat next to the bed, or installing security systems) is instinctual behaviour at all. Those are all high-level intellectual behaviours as far as I'm concerned. If we were actually a territorial species in the context that you guys are saying, we wouldn't be anywhere near as community-minded as we are, and we would be far more segregated.
Do you think it could also be a combination of both? For example, we organically decided land could be owned by individuals (territorial behaviour), we fear jealousy and the unrighteousness that would lead one to take our land (instinctive notion, using intellectual behaviour to accommodate that notion through security).
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Seems Tesm Trump Treason needs some migrants to do the work citizens won’t?
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F**king obscene.Halifax2TheMax said:Seems Tesm Trump Treason needs some migrants to do the work citizens won’t?
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unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487Q Anon, whether you believe or not, has said the funding of the protests is to stop the HNI division from doing its job. Q is saying that people are getting nervous.
Why else would you protest a child sex trafficking ring from being stopped? Is that what it has come to? Do these people really want child sex traffickers left alone?
https://www.pluralist.com/posts/1396-watch-liberals-protest-ice-while-agents-are-on-a-child-sex-trafficking-bust/partners/44197
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unsung said:Q Anon, whether you believe or not, has said the funding of the protests is to stop the HNI division from doing its job. Q is saying that people are getting nervous.
Why else would you protest a child sex trafficking ring from being stopped? Is that what it has come to? Do these people really want child sex traffickers left alone?
https://www.pluralist.com/posts/1396-watch-liberals-protest-ice-while-agents-are-on-a-child-sex-trafficking-bust/partners/44197
This is stupid.
Exactly how would protestors know this was a sex trafficking raid when it looked no different than the standard 'get the brown guy out of here' raid?
People are getting nervous? What are you implying? Are you implying that 'liberals' are scared of the ICE deployments because this places their child sex trafficking operations at risk?
Holy cow man. We're losing you.
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fucking comet pizza all over again.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:unsung said:Q Anon, whether you believe or not, has said the funding of the protests is to stop the HNI division from doing its job. Q is saying that people are getting nervous.
Why else would you protest a child sex trafficking ring from being stopped? Is that what it has come to? Do these people really want child sex traffickers left alone?
https://www.pluralist.com/posts/1396-watch-liberals-protest-ice-while-agents-are-on-a-child-sex-trafficking-bust/partners/44197
This is stupid.
Exactly how would protestors know this was a sex trafficking raid when it looked no different than the standard 'get the brown guy out of here' raid?
People are getting nervous? What are you implying? Are you implying that 'liberals' are scared of the ICE deployments because this places their child sex trafficking operations at risk?
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He’s been lost a long, long time again. Remember the napkin?Thirty Bills Unpaid said:unsung said:Q Anon, whether you believe or not, has said the funding of the protests is to stop the HNI division from doing its job. Q is saying that people are getting nervous.
Why else would you protest a child sex trafficking ring from being stopped? Is that what it has come to? Do these people really want child sex traffickers left alone?
https://www.pluralist.com/posts/1396-watch-liberals-protest-ice-while-agents-are-on-a-child-sex-trafficking-bust/partners/44197
This is stupid.
Exactly how would protestors know this was a sex trafficking raid when it looked no different than the standard 'get the brown guy out of here' raid?
People are getting nervous? What are you implying? Are you implying that 'liberals' are scared of the ICE deployments because this places their child sex trafficking operations at risk?
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unsung said:Q Anon, whether you believe or not, has said the funding of the protests is to stop the HNI division from doing its job. Q is saying that people are getting nervous.
Why else would you protest a child sex trafficking ring from being stopped? Is that what it has come to? Do these people really want child sex traffickers left alone?
https://www.pluralist.com/posts/1396-watch-liberals-protest-ice-while-agents-are-on-a-child-sex-trafficking-bust/partners/44197
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This did happen, but it happened in August of 17. Here's a statement by them "HSI is conducting a criminal investigation, not a civil immigration or deportation action," Oakland police spokeswoman Officer Johnna Watson said in a statement.Halifax2TheMax said:“The Pluralist?” But yo, no social media, yo!
http://abc7news.com/society/ice-raid-in-west-oakland-related-to-human-trafficking/2315669/
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So, let me understand. A human trafficking ring was investigated in 2017 and a year later it’s the basis for a claim that libtardaplorables want to allow child sex trafficking? Does that about sum it up? Unsung? According to “The Pluralist?” Can I get some cheesy bread with that?mrussel1 said:
This did happen, but it happened in August of 17. Here's a statement by them "HSI is conducting a criminal investigation, not a civil immigration or deportation action," Oakland police spokeswoman Officer Johnna Watson said in a statement.Halifax2TheMax said:“The Pluralist?” But yo, no social media, yo!
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I tried to find this "event" and all I could find were links to right wing conservative conspiracy theory sites.Halifax2TheMax said:
So, let me understand. A human trafficking ring was investigated in 2017 and a year later it’s the basis for a claim that libtardaplorables want to allow child sex trafficking? Does that about sum it up? Unsung? According to “The Pluralist?” Can I get some cheesy bread with that?mrussel1 said:
This did happen, but it happened in August of 17. Here's a statement by them "HSI is conducting a criminal investigation, not a civil immigration or deportation action," Oakland police spokeswoman Officer Johnna Watson said in a statement.Halifax2TheMax said:“The Pluralist?” But yo, no social media, yo!
http://abc7news.com/society/ice-raid-in-west-oakland-related-to-human-trafficking/2315669/
Which leads me to the conclusion that it didn't really happen.
Or if it did it certainly didn't happen the way the afore mentioned sites say it did.0 -
The link I posted was from Oakland news. The last paragraph said that a protest was organized the next day.Bentleyspop said:
I tried to find this "event" and all I could find were links to right wing conservative conspiracy theory sites.Halifax2TheMax said:
So, let me understand. A human trafficking ring was investigated in 2017 and a year later it’s the basis for a claim that libtardaplorables want to allow child sex trafficking? Does that about sum it up? Unsung? According to “The Pluralist?” Can I get some cheesy bread with that?mrussel1 said:
This did happen, but it happened in August of 17. Here's a statement by them "HSI is conducting a criminal investigation, not a civil immigration or deportation action," Oakland police spokeswoman Officer Johnna Watson said in a statement.Halifax2TheMax said:“The Pluralist?” But yo, no social media, yo!
http://abc7news.com/society/ice-raid-in-west-oakland-related-to-human-trafficking/2315669/
Which leads me to the conclusion that it didn't really happen.
Or if it did it certainly didn't happen the way the afore mentioned sites say it did.0 -
Anyone charged? Convicted? Children rescued from exploitation? A child sex ring broken up? Or because immigrant rights supporters protested, a year later the alt-right hate machine tries to make it about liberals supporting child sex trafficking rings so “responsible “ gun owners will be so outraged that they’ll take matters into their own hands? Well, I guess the tactic works on some why deal in reality?mrussel1 said:
The link I posted was from Oakland news. The last paragraph said that a protest was organized the next day.Bentleyspop said:
I tried to find this "event" and all I could find were links to right wing conservative conspiracy theory sites.Halifax2TheMax said:
So, let me understand. A human trafficking ring was investigated in 2017 and a year later it’s the basis for a claim that libtardaplorables want to allow child sex trafficking? Does that about sum it up? Unsung? According to “The Pluralist?” Can I get some cheesy bread with that?mrussel1 said:
This did happen, but it happened in August of 17. Here's a statement by them "HSI is conducting a criminal investigation, not a civil immigration or deportation action," Oakland police spokeswoman Officer Johnna Watson said in a statement.Halifax2TheMax said:“The Pluralist?” But yo, no social media, yo!
http://abc7news.com/society/ice-raid-in-west-oakland-related-to-human-trafficking/2315669/
Which leads me to the conclusion that it didn't really happen.
Or if it did it certainly didn't happen the way the afore mentioned sites say it did.
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I'm certainly not defending the total misrepresentation by the right wing, considering the post by unsung made no mention that it occurred last year. I was providing an actual news link to the situation.Halifax2TheMax said:
Anyone charged? Convicted? Children rescued from exploitation? A child sex ring broken up? Or because immigrant rights supporters protested, a year later the alt-right hate machine tries to make it about liberals supporting child sex trafficking rings so “responsible “ gun owners will be so outraged that they’ll take matters into their own hands? Well, I guess the tactic works on some why deal in reality?mrussel1 said:
The link I posted was from Oakland news. The last paragraph said that a protest was organized the next day.Bentleyspop said:
I tried to find this "event" and all I could find were links to right wing conservative conspiracy theory sites.Halifax2TheMax said:
So, let me understand. A human trafficking ring was investigated in 2017 and a year later it’s the basis for a claim that libtardaplorables want to allow child sex trafficking? Does that about sum it up? Unsung? According to “The Pluralist?” Can I get some cheesy bread with that?mrussel1 said:
This did happen, but it happened in August of 17. Here's a statement by them "HSI is conducting a criminal investigation, not a civil immigration or deportation action," Oakland police spokeswoman Officer Johnna Watson said in a statement.Halifax2TheMax said:“The Pluralist?” But yo, no social media, yo!
http://abc7news.com/society/ice-raid-in-west-oakland-related-to-human-trafficking/2315669/
Which leads me to the conclusion that it didn't really happen.
Or if it did it certainly didn't happen the way the afore mentioned sites say it did.
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