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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,386
    BS44325 said:
    No. It started after hitting rock bottom in 2008 but it has taken off only recently.
    What’s the ‘it’ that is taking off?
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,278
    edited June 2018
    What’s the ‘it’ that is taking off?
    Good question.
    Here is what's gone on with the Dow under POTUS's. I see no "taking off" under Trump reflected here. The same can be said for any of the US exchanges.

    http://www.macrotrends.net/2481/stock-market-performance-by-president


    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,445
    BS44325 said:
    It sure did. Knowing when to pivot is key.
    Haha. Nobody is believing the 3D stuff BS. Take that act somewhere else.

    It's dark Russian money that saved his ass, and will ultimately ruin his ass in the end.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    dignin said:
    Haha. Nobody is believing the 3D stuff BS. Take that act somewhere else.

    It's dark Russian money that saved his ass, and will ultimately ruin his ass in the end.
    Right. The dark Russian money. That makes way more sense.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    What’s the ‘it’ that is taking off?
    Growth. Read the thread.
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,445
    It's been a slice America, but you're fucked now.

    Justice Anthony Kennedy to retire from Supreme Court


    https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/27/politics/anthony-kennedy-retires/index.html
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    dignin said:
    It's been a slice America, but you're fucked now.

    Justice Anthony Kennedy to retire from Supreme Court


    https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/27/politics/anthony-kennedy-retires/index.html
    Poor RBG will have to work until she's 100.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,539
    dignin said:
    It's been a slice America, but you're fucked now.

    Justice Anthony Kennedy to retire from Supreme Court


    https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/27/politics/anthony-kennedy-retires/index.html
    although his recent votes haven't helped much
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,445
    although his recent votes haven't helped much
    True.
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    The CNN article says that will set the Supreme Court up for conservatives for generations?  Is that correct?
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    The CNN article says that will set the Supreme Court up for conservatives for generations?  Is that correct?
    Likely. Kennedy was always known as "the swing vote" even though he has generally been more right then left. If he is replaced by a more "solid" conservative then the "swing" will disappear. That being said nobody is ever "solid"...Roberts was supposed to be solid and sided with the liberal judges on Obamacare.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,467
    dignin said:
    It's been a slice America, but you're fucked now.

    Justice Anthony Kennedy to retire from Supreme Court


    https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/27/politics/anthony-kennedy-retires/index.html
    No date... maybe he'll wait for the mids?
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,539
    The CNN article says that will set the Supreme Court up for conservatives for generations?  Is that correct?
    depends on whether tRump wins a second term and how long RBG can hold out

    I hope a Dem wins the WH in 2020 and adds two justices (total of 11)
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

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    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,278
    If the SCOTUS worked the way it's supposed to, there wouldn't be all these split votes at all. Clearly those judges aren't doing their jobs properly (or at least about half of them aren't).
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    PJ_Soul said:
    If the SCOTUS worked the way it's supposed to, there wouldn't be all these split votes at all. Clearly those judges aren't doing their jobs properly (or at least about half of them aren't).
    But the country is about 52-48 split on most issues so it is actually working perfectly.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mrussel1 said:
    No date... maybe he'll wait for the mids?
    Will probably be immediate as the last cases of the season have been decided.
  • NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,314
    edited June 2018
    BS44325 said:

    Return to serfdom? With those unemployment numbers and a growth rate pushing 4%? Who's on the pipe?
    CBO just projected growth at 1.9
    Post edited by NewJPage on
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    depends on whether tRump wins a second term and how long RBG can hold out

    I hope a Dem wins the WH in 2020 and adds two justices (total of 11)
    2020 will be the "generational" election. Not likely RBG can stay on until 2024.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,467
    BS44325 said:

    2020 will be the "generational" election. Not likely RBG can stay on until 2024.
    I'm done with baby boomers
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    NewJPage said:
    Cbo's just projected growth at 1.9
    And the Atlanta Fed is predicting 4.5


  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mrussel1 said:
    No date... maybe he'll wait for the mids?
    Says July 31st. This will put a lot of pressure on Red State Dem senators up for reelection.
  • NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,314
    BS44325 said:
    And the Atlanta Fed is predicting 4.5


    Long term. cbo said short term spike then regression. Bunch of awesome stuff about debt in there too that you probably cared about until 1/20/17
    6/26/98, 8/17/00, 10/8/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/25/03, 5/28/03, 6/1/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 6/6/03, 6/12/03, 6/13/03, 6/15/03, 6/18/03, 6/21/03, 6/22/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03, 10/3/04, 10/5/04, 9/9/05, 9/11/05, 9/16/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/19/06, 6/30/06, 7/23/06, 8/5/07, 6/30/08, 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 5/4/10, 5/7/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/11/13, 10/17/14, 8/20/16
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,569
    NewJPage said:
    CBO just projected growth at 1.9
    And, thanks in part to unecessary tax cuts for the wealthy, they are also projecting deficit to be at highest levels since WWII

     https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/06/26/the-federal-debt-is-headed-for-the-highest-levels-since-world-war-ii-cbo-says/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.61b54c03234a


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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    edited June 2018
    NewJPage said:
    Long term. cbo said short term spike then regression. Bunch of awesome stuff about debt in there too that you probably cared about until 1/20/17
    Still care about the debt. You only have to go back a page or two to see that. The thing is...the CBO debt projection relies heavily on the rate of growth...as it should. So if you're growing at 1.9 the debt will be insane. But if you're growing at 4.5 your tax receipts will be massive which will help shrink the debt provide you don't continue to spend like Johnny Depp post-Pirates of the caribbean.
  • NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,314
    BS44325 said:
    Still care about the debt. You only have to go back a page or two to see that. The thing is...the CBO debt projection relies heavily on the rate of growth...as it should. So if you're growing at 1.9 the debt will be insane. But if you're growing at 4.5 your tax receipts will be massive which will help shrink the debt provide you don't continue to spend like Johnny Depp post-Pirates of the caribbean.
    So debt should go down like under fiscally conservative and tax cutting Reagan, right?
    6/26/98, 8/17/00, 10/8/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/25/03, 5/28/03, 6/1/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 6/6/03, 6/12/03, 6/13/03, 6/15/03, 6/18/03, 6/21/03, 6/22/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03, 10/3/04, 10/5/04, 9/9/05, 9/11/05, 9/16/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/19/06, 6/30/06, 7/23/06, 8/5/07, 6/30/08, 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 5/4/10, 5/7/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/11/13, 10/17/14, 8/20/16
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,386
    BS44325 said:
    But the country is about 52-48 split on most issues so it is actually working perfectly.
    The country is liberal leaning on most issues, so the court will be out of step. 
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,703
    NewJPage said:
    So debt should go down like under fiscally conservative and tax cutting Reagan, right?
    That is what was proposed and everyone against it pointed to Reagans plan.


  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,802
    The country is liberal leaning on most issues, so the court will be out of step. 

    Not only that.... the "conservative" (to use a term very loosely) ideals are aging out and will likely be a much smaller minority in 10 years.  
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,719
    BS44325 said:
    Is math funny?
    Your math is. How many points did unemployment drop under Obama and how many thus far under Team Trump Treason? The correction is coming and when it hits, you won’t have a tax cut to bail us out and as such, who will you blame? Hillary?
     
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,719
    BS44325 said:
    Right. The dark Russian money. That makes way more sense.
    As much sense as Paulie Manaforte’s motion to dis miss dissed.
     
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