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I'm not defending Trump at all with the policy but I hate fake news.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/father-says-little-honduran-girl-time-cover-not-024329900.htmlFather says little Honduran girl on Time cover was not taken from mother
Time Magazine cover shows Trump looking down on crying migrant toddlerBy Gustavo Palencia
TEGUCIGALPA (Reuters) - The Honduran toddler pictured sobbing in a pink jacket before U.S. President Donald Trump on an upcoming cover of Time magazine was not separated from her mother at the U.S. border, according to a man who says he is the girl's father.
The powerful original photograph, taken at the scene of a border detention by Getty Images photographer John Moore, became one of the iconic images in the flurry of media coverage about the separation of families by the Trump administration.
Dozens of newspapers and magazines around the globe published the picture, swelling the tide of outrage that pushed Trump to back down Wednesday and say families would no longer be separated.
"My daughter has become a symbol of the ... separation of children at the U.S. border. She may have even touched President Trump's heart," Denis Valera told Reuters in a telephone interview.
Valera said the little girl and her mother, Sandra Sanchez, have been detained together in the Texas border town of McAllen, where Sanchez has applied for asylum, and they were not separated after being detained near the border.
Honduran deputy foreign minister Nelly Jerez confirmed Valera's version of events.
Varela said he was awestruck and pained when he first saw the photo of his crying daughter on TV. "Seeing what was happening to her in that moment breaks anyone's heart," he said.
The photo was used on a Facebook fundraiser that drew more than $17 million dollars in donations from close to half a million people for the Refugee and Immigrant Center for Education and Legal Services (RAICES), a Texas-based nonprofit that provides legal defense services to immigrants and refugees.
The Trump administration's "zero-tolerance" immigration policy had led to the separation of 2,342 children from their parents at the U.S.-Mexico border between May 5 and June 9.
Video footage of separated children sitting in cages, an audiotape of wailing children and Moore's photo had sparked worldwide anger over Trump's immigration policies.
Sanchez and her daughter had left Puerto Cortes, a major Honduran port north of the capital city, Tegucigalpa, without telling Valera or the couple's three other children, he said.
He said he imagined that Sanchez left with the little girl for the United States, where she has family, in search of better economic opportunities.
"If they are deported, that is OK as long as they do not leave the child without her mother," Valera said. "I am waiting to see what happens with them."
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I think he'd put that cover up on his wall in a heartbeat. From his perspective, what's wrong with it? He looks mean? No...he'd probably think he looks powerful.g under p said:
I guarantee you THAT cover is NOT going up on his wall of Time magazine covers.Kat said:
A brilliant cover.The Juggler said:Good news! Our fraud president made the cover of Time again!
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He likes to frame and post up his Time covers, maybe it makes him feel far more important than he really is.
Did anyone catch the cover a week or two ago where the title was KING ME? The image was him looking at himself in a mirror as the reflected image is him dressed up as a king.
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And you say he frames Time covers because "maybe it makes him feel far more important than he really is." The fact of the matter is that he's by far the most important person in the entire world right now. For better or worse. "Worse" for the most part.
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The father of this girl says her and her mother were never separated and it "broke his heart" to see the images of her crying....The Juggler said:Good news! Our fraud president made the cover of Time again!
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The little girl is a symbol of the overall issue. It's not meant to be literal to this little girl or to Trump. He obviously didn't see her or look at her, so by that narrow definition, both images are "fake". But no one ever thought they came face to face, did they? I'm sure no one is arguing that there aren't actual separations happening.0
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I get that but it allows for Trump’s fake news narrative.mrussel1 said:The little girl is a symbol of the overall issue. It's not meant to be literal to this little girl or to Trump. He obviously didn't see her or look at her, so by that narrow definition, both images are "fake". But no one ever thought they came face to face, did they? I'm sure no one is arguing that there aren't actual separations happening.2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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True...BUT...it will now just be another Fake News item to Trump and his supporters. The media HAS to be smarter than this. Way to take away from the conversation. Nevermind the thousands that were separated from their parents...it'll only be "See Fake News, that girl wasn't separated"mrussel1 said:The little girl is a symbol of the overall issue. It's not meant to be literal to this little girl or to Trump. He obviously didn't see her or look at her, so by that narrow definition, both images are "fake". But no one ever thought they came face to face, did they? I'm sure no one is arguing that there aren't actual separations happening.
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Because the father “heard” from family members that they were never separated is by no means definitive proof that weren’t.Ledbetterman10 said:
The father of this girl says her and her mother were never separated and it "broke his heart" to see the images of her crying....The Juggler said:Good news! Our fraud president made the cover of Time again!
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agree.Ledbetterman10 said:
I get that but it allows for Trump’s fake news narrative.mrussel1 said:The little girl is a symbol of the overall issue. It's not meant to be literal to this little girl or to Trump. He obviously didn't see her or look at her, so by that narrow definition, both images are "fake". But no one ever thought they came face to face, did they? I'm sure no one is arguing that there aren't actual separations happening.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
yes, this will only give more fodder to his base.cincybearcat said:
True...BUT...it will now just be another Fake News item to Trump and his supporters. The media HAS to be smarter than this. Way to take away from the conversation. Nevermind the thousands that were separated from their parents...it'll only be "See Fake News, that girl wasn't separated"mrussel1 said:The little girl is a symbol of the overall issue. It's not meant to be literal to this little girl or to Trump. He obviously didn't see her or look at her, so by that narrow definition, both images are "fake". But no one ever thought they came face to face, did they? I'm sure no one is arguing that there aren't actual separations happening.
Sensational journalism sucks.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Nobody should give a fuck about his base. Ignore them.0
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I don't think there's any angle to this story that helps Trump. They want it out of the news cycle as quickly as possible. I don't see him tweeting "That girl with me on the the cover of TIME was NOT separated... FAKE!". In other words, I don't see him calling attention to the magazine. I don't think it's helpful. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I know I wouldn't do it. But it is "Opposite Day" according to my youngest.0
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Yeah but it adds more fuel to the fire. His supporters will support him even more (and maybe take a few people on the fence with him) and Trump will continue the fake news angle now with evidence. The media has to be smarter than this.mrussel1 said:I don't think there's any angle to this story that helps Trump. They want it out of the news cycle as quickly as possible. I don't see him tweeting "That girl with me on the the cover of TIME was NOT separated... FAKE!". In other words, I don't see him calling attention to the magazine. I don't think it's helpful. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I know I wouldn't do it. But it is "Opposite Day" according to my youngest.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
No. It's much smarter to try and decipher why half of the fucking country thinks and feels the way they do. Before it becomes more than half of the country. And then maybe 2/3 of the country. And then maybe 3/4 of the county. And before you know it, we're all living in an Orwell novel. Mind you, that's the worst possible scenario. But that could be the fate of people like yourself that just want to ignore things that, while they might upset or annoy you, are real and dangerous and should be treated as such. Not ignored.dignin said:Nobody should give a fuck about his base. Ignore them.
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Not to mention she was likely separated and later reunified, especially once she became a lightning rod... everybody was separated, it was a zero tolerance blanket policy that everybody fell under... I saw on the news this morning that 300 have been reunited so far
And as Halifax pointed out, the father really has no clue
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ignoring them will allow them to grow.dignin said:Nobody should give a fuck about his base. Ignore them.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Correct. I've said it before, the democrats have to get their head out of their asses or else 2020 will be another Trump victory.HughFreakingDillon said:
ignoring them will allow them to grow.dignin said:Nobody should give a fuck about his base. Ignore them.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
What's the rush? Why provide them/him with an enemy they can attack with propaganda and brainwash their voters....mcgruff10 said:
Correct. I've said it before, the democrats have to get their head out of their asses or else 2020 will be another Trump victory.HughFreakingDillon said:
ignoring them will allow them to grow.dignin said:Nobody should give a fuck about his base. Ignore them.
I'm completely fine with the Democrats strategy... let them own this pile of shit for a while... your strategy would be a politcal mistake... you see he tries to blame dems for his insane policies already.... let him own it and go down with the ship0 -
I'm back and forth on this. I'm not sure if it's such a great strategy to have no obvious front runner to lead. on the other hand, it makes it harder for trump to attack when there's no one specific.my2hands said:
What's the rush? Why provide them/him with an enemy they can attack with propaganda and brainwash their voters....mcgruff10 said:
Correct. I've said it before, the democrats have to get their head out of their asses or else 2020 will be another Trump victory.HughFreakingDillon said:
ignoring them will allow them to grow.dignin said:Nobody should give a fuck about his base. Ignore them.
I'm completely fine with the Democrats strategy... let them own this pile of shit for a while... your strategy would be a politcal mistake... you see he tries to blame dems for his insane policies already.... let him own it and go down with the shipBy The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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