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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    The occasion got to Dennis Rodman...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vCoOF03FSA

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    people claiming that this is a postive step are speaking WAY too prematurely. nothing has been done. nothing has been accomplished. a photo op sit down means zero unless something gets done. and nothing has been done yet. 
    More like speaking out of Trump's ass.
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  • josevolution
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    He has alot of talent for a young man of 26 to take over the country , nothing about what a brutal dictator he has been he had harsher words for PM from Canada then for Rocket man ....
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    josevolution said:
    He has alot of talent for a young man of 26 to take over the country , nothing about what a brutal dictator he has been he had harsher words for PM from Canada then for Rocket man ....
    Yep. It's insanity. He's made it very clear in the last week where he stands. Not for freedom or democracy at all.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,365
    What’s the going price of that beautiful, beautiful commemorative coin? EBay?
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    edited June 2018
    Yeah, this is normal. :weary:
    What. The. Fuck.

    https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/qvnn8w/watch-the-fake-movie-trailer-the-white-house-made-for-kim-jong-un

    Watch the fake movie trailer the White House made for Kim Jong Un (yes, really)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=18&v=A838gS8nwas




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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Just close your eyes for a moment, just for a moment, and imagine Hillary or Obama doing any of this. Announcing a willingness to meet, scheduling a meeting, issuing a commerative coin, canceling the meeting, putting it back on, going to Singapore without any prep or specifics, meeting one on one without any aides present and showing a propaganda piece on an iPad. Imagine that for just a minute. Heads would explode and Washington would be in an uproar. Then to hold a press conference and openly admit that if they fail, they'd jsut make up an excuse, while shrugging their shoulders in an Alfred P. Newman kind of way. Now, imagine that.

    "The future is in Singapore and not Quebec."
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Just close your eyes for a moment, just for a moment, and imagine Hillary or Obama doing any of this. Announcing a willingness to meet, scheduling a meeting, issuing a commerative coin, canceling the meeting, putting it back on, going to Singapore without any prep or specifics, meeting one on one without any aides present and showing a propaganda piece on an iPad. Imagine that for just a minute. Heads would explode and Washington would be in an uproar. Then to hold a press conference and openly admit that if they fail, they'd jsut make up an excuse, while shrugging their shoulders in an Alfred P. Newman kind of way. Now, imagine that.

    "The future is in Singapore and not Quebec."
    I was thinking this same thing. They'd call either one of them treasonous and "in bed with terrorists/dictators". 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    And up until that very moment, things were going so well. Un had agreed to totally denuclearize, step down from power, reunify with the south, grant exclusive development rights to Team Trump Treason to build ocean front hotels and for the US to develop the north’s natural resources and free all the North Koreans in prison and in the labor camps. Doh!

    Watch Kim Jong-un's stunned reaction to Trump's fat joke - Mashable https://apple.news/A1vHzaO8aTGq-TJAR4jEpxw
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  • dignin
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    Trump Was Outfoxed in Singapore

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/12/opinion/trump-kim-summit-north-korea.html
  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,967
    dignin said:

    Trump Was Outfoxed in Singapore

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/12/opinion/trump-kim-summit-north-korea.html
    I haven't read the article yet but from the headline and what putin's boy said, he may have won because his real reason for being there was not U.S. national security but building hotels on NK beaches.

    I'm thinking there's a special place in hell for him now....
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  • cincybearcat
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    my2hands said:
    People realize that NK agreed to denuclearization in 1993, right? 
    Yeah this whole thing turned out to be a big nothingburger.  

    I'm actually all for sitting down and talking to leaders of any other country.  I don;t care about that fake "legitimizing" bullshit.  The world should be smart enough to understand sitting and talking doesn't mean agreeing.  Hell I wouldn't be here if just showing up meant you agreed with the people there! 

    But they got nothing out of that.  All show (I guess I shoulda expected it).  And really giving up military drills with South Korea for something NK already said they would do in the early 90's....not such a good deal. In fact, it's the worst deal ever.  Iran should be happy to re-negotiate with Trump.  
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  • cincybearcat
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Just close your eyes for a moment, just for a moment, and imagine Hillary or Obama doing any of this. Announcing a willingness to meet, scheduling a meeting, issuing a commerative coin, canceling the meeting, putting it back on, going to Singapore without any prep or specifics, meeting one on one without any aides present and showing a propaganda piece on an iPad. Imagine that for just a minute. Heads would explode and Washington would be in an uproar. Then to hold a press conference and openly admit that if they fail, they'd jsut make up an excuse, while shrugging their shoulders in an Alfred P. Newman kind of way. Now, imagine that.

    "The future is in Singapore and not Quebec."
    When are we going to stop with the "just imagine if this was obama....or hillary" stuff?  I'm guessing never. ;)
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Kat said:
    dignin said:

    Trump Was Outfoxed in Singapore

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/12/opinion/trump-kim-summit-north-korea.html
    I haven't read the article yet but from the headline and what putin's boy said, he may have won because his real reason for being there was not U.S. national security but building hotels on NK beaches.

    I'm thinking there's a special place in hell for him now....
    He can bunk with Trudeau 
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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,967
    oftenreading said:
    Kat said:
    dignin said:

    Trump Was Outfoxed in Singapore

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/12/opinion/trump-kim-summit-north-korea.html
    I haven't read the article yet but from the headline and what putin's boy said, he may have won because his real reason for being there was not U.S. national security but building hotels on NK beaches.

    I'm thinking there's a special place in hell for him now....
    He can bunk with Trudeau 
    But Trudeau won't be there. As far as I know, he hasn't used his office for personal gain like putin's boy has.


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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,365
    cincybearcat said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Just close your eyes for a moment, just for a moment, and imagine Hillary or Obama doing any of this. Announcing a willingness to meet, scheduling a meeting, issuing a commerative coin, canceling the meeting, putting it back on, going to Singapore without any prep or specifics, meeting one on one without any aides present and showing a propaganda piece on an iPad. Imagine that for just a minute. Heads would explode and Washington would be in an uproar. Then to hold a press conference and openly admit that if they fail, they'd jsut make up an excuse, while shrugging their shoulders in an Alfred P. Newman kind of way. Now, imagine that.

    "The future is in Singapore and not Quebec."
    When are we going to stop with the "just imagine if this was obama....or hillary" stuff?  I'm guessing never. ;)
    Have you watched the Faux news comparison of coverage of Team Trump Treason and Obama that someone posted? The right's hypocrasy knows no bounds. And some are suckers for it. Sometimes it needs to be pointedly pointed out. So maybe when Team Trump Treason stops doing shit that the repubes allow to go by without comment that they would have had a stroke over if done by Hillary or Obama, I'll stop pointing it out. So yea, never.
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Just close your eyes for a moment, just for a moment, and imagine Hillary or Obama doing any of this. Announcing a willingness to meet, scheduling a meeting, issuing a commerative coin, canceling the meeting, putting it back on, going to Singapore without any prep or specifics, meeting one on one without any aides present and showing a propaganda piece on an iPad. Imagine that for just a minute. Heads would explode and Washington would be in an uproar. Then to hold a press conference and openly admit that if they fail, they'd jsut make up an excuse, while shrugging their shoulders in an Alfred P. Newman kind of way. Now, imagine that.

    "The future is in Singapore and not Quebec."
    When are we going to stop with the "just imagine if this was obama....or hillary" stuff?  I'm guessing never. ;)
    Have you watched the Faux news comparison of coverage of Team Trump Treason and Obama that someone posted? The right's hypocrasy knows no bounds. And some are suckers for it. Sometimes it needs to be pointedly pointed out. So maybe when Team Trump Treason stops doing shit that the repubes allow to go by without comment that they would have had a stroke over if done by Hillary or Obama, I'll stop pointing it out. So yea, never.
    It's just such low hanging fruit and obvious.  Kinda like the player that if he is on your team you love him and if he plays for another team you hate him. Happens all the time
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  • josevolution
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    Baffoon brings up HRC when ever he can , i know we shouldn't invoke her either but the hypocrisy from this administration & GOP party is endless , they've given up all dignity or what ever was left of it ...
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  • my2hands
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    BS was smoking that whacky weed with The Worm last night... puff, puff, pass, professor 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,365
    cincybearcat said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Just close your eyes for a moment, just for a moment, and imagine Hillary or Obama doing any of this. Announcing a willingness to meet, scheduling a meeting, issuing a commerative coin, canceling the meeting, putting it back on, going to Singapore without any prep or specifics, meeting one on one without any aides present and showing a propaganda piece on an iPad. Imagine that for just a minute. Heads would explode and Washington would be in an uproar. Then to hold a press conference and openly admit that if they fail, they'd jsut make up an excuse, while shrugging their shoulders in an Alfred P. Newman kind of way. Now, imagine that.

    "The future is in Singapore and not Quebec."
    When are we going to stop with the "just imagine if this was obama....or hillary" stuff?  I'm guessing never. ;)
    Have you watched the Faux news comparison of coverage of Team Trump Treason and Obama that someone posted? The right's hypocrasy knows no bounds. And some are suckers for it. Sometimes it needs to be pointedly pointed out. So maybe when Team Trump Treason stops doing shit that the repubes allow to go by without comment that they would have had a stroke over if done by Hillary or Obama, I'll stop pointing it out. So yea, never.
    It's just such low hanging fruit and obvious.  Kinda like the player that if he is on your team you love him and if he plays for another team you hate him. Happens all the time
    Sorry, but government policy and governance are not sports. If the Patriots lose the super bowl because they traded Gronk to the victors, it doesn’t impact my life one iota. Team Trump Treason doing Russia’s and China’s bidding while being so obviously clueless while also getting a pass from the repubes in Congress, has the potential to get me killed.
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