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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    The funny thing to me is how many people think NK actually posed, or pose, a threat to anybody outside of their own population. Suckers lol
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    unsung said:
    This is a huge accomplishment for the World.
    Trump, and his supporters are so easily conned. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
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  • Thoughts_Arrive
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    The occasion got to Dennis Rodman...

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  • my2hands
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    unsung said:
    This is a huge accomplishment for the World.
    How so?

  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Everyone enjoy the show?

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  • dignin
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    TRUMP AND KIM SIGN A “COMPREHENSIVE” AGREEMENT OF NO REAL SUBSTANCE

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  • Shawshank
    Shawshank Posts: 1,018
    I love how people think a near 70 year conflict is going to be resolved in a simple 30 minute meeting.  The bigger picture here is that baby steps were taken.  And a different tact was used in comparison to past administrations...a tact that seems to be much more productive. I believe North Korea was 100% sure we weren't fucking around and that we had a leader possibly more unpredictable than they do. I dont say that with any real pride, but it seems to have been at least somewhat effective, because their actions changed dramatically over the course of a few months and dialogue began.

    Human rights violations and other issues are not immediately going to be corrected after a single meeting. But if dialogue continues then hopefuly...above all issues...that will be resolved. 


  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Shawshank said:
    I love how people think a near 70 year conflict is going to be resolved in a simple 30 minute meeting.  The bigger picture here is that baby steps were taken.  And a different tact was used in comparison to past administrations...a tact that seems to be much more productive. I believe North Korea was 100% sure we weren't fucking around and that we had a leader possibly more unpredictable than they do. I dont say that with any real pride, but it seems to have been at least somewhat effective, because their actions changed dramatically over the course of a few months and dialogue began.

    Human rights violations and other issues are not immediately going to be corrected after a single meeting. But if dialogue continues then hopefuly...above all issues...that will be resolved. 


    How has this different tact been more productive?
  • Shawshank
    Shawshank Posts: 1,018
    dignin said:
    Shawshank said:
    I love how people think a near 70 year conflict is going to be resolved in a simple 30 minute meeting.  The bigger picture here is that baby steps were taken.  And a different tact was used in comparison to past administrations...a tact that seems to be much more productive. I believe North Korea was 100% sure we weren't fucking around and that we had a leader possibly more unpredictable than they do. I dont say that with any real pride, but it seems to have been at least somewhat effective, because their actions changed dramatically over the course of a few months and dialogue began.

    Human rights violations and other issues are not immediately going to be corrected after a single meeting. But if dialogue continues then hopefuly...above all issues...that will be resolved. 


    How has this different tact been more productive?
    How has it not been? Instead of talking shit, increasing military exercises in the region and expanding sanctions, which only hurt the citizenry even more, we gave Un at least a hint of respect and extended an olive branch. If anyone says that having the leader of North Korea at the table, for even the briefest of cordial meetings is a bad thing, they are fucking delusional.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Shawshank said:
    dignin said:
    Shawshank said:
    I love how people think a near 70 year conflict is going to be resolved in a simple 30 minute meeting.  The bigger picture here is that baby steps were taken.  And a different tact was used in comparison to past administrations...a tact that seems to be much more productive. I believe North Korea was 100% sure we weren't fucking around and that we had a leader possibly more unpredictable than they do. I dont say that with any real pride, but it seems to have been at least somewhat effective, because their actions changed dramatically over the course of a few months and dialogue began.

    Human rights violations and other issues are not immediately going to be corrected after a single meeting. But if dialogue continues then hopefuly...above all issues...that will be resolved. 


    How has this different tact been more productive?
    How has it not been? Instead of talking shit, increasing military exercises in the region and expanding sanctions, which only hurt the citizenry even more, we gave Un at least a hint of respect and extended an olive branch. If anyone says that having the leader of North Korea at the table, for even the briefest of cordial meetings is a bad thing, they are fucking delusional.
    I’m not going to say it’s a bad thing, nor am I going to say it’s necessarily a good thing. NK’s statement is virtually identical to the one they made the last go ‘round, and we have seen how well they carried that out. Another statement on its own means not much of anything. The mere fact of a meeting, on its own, means not much of anything. 
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  • brianlux
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    dignin said:
    Everyone enjoy the show?

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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,250
    https://nowthisnews.com/videos/politics/fox-news-different-reactions-regarding-negotiations-with-north-korea


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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,520
    people claiming that this is a postive step are speaking WAY too prematurely. nothing has been done. nothing has been accomplished. a photo op sit down means zero unless something gets done. and nothing has been done yet. 
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,414
    What you have is a business man acting as president who sees an opportunity for personal gains in an isolated and poorly developed country. He is again using his position to formally give a known human rights destroying dictator recognition and praise. It's vile and disgusting. There is an angle to every action.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    oftenreading said:
    Shawshank said:
    dignin said:
    Shawshank said:
    I love how people think a near 70 year conflict is going to be resolved in a simple 30 minute meeting.  The bigger picture here is that baby steps were taken.  And a different tact was used in comparison to past administrations...a tact that seems to be much more productive. I believe North Korea was 100% sure we weren't fucking around and that we had a leader possibly more unpredictable than they do. I dont say that with any real pride, but it seems to have been at least somewhat effective, because their actions changed dramatically over the course of a few months and dialogue began.

    Human rights violations and other issues are not immediately going to be corrected after a single meeting. But if dialogue continues then hopefuly...above all issues...that will be resolved. 


    How has this different tact been more productive?
    How has it not been? Instead of talking shit, increasing military exercises in the region and expanding sanctions, which only hurt the citizenry even more, we gave Un at least a hint of respect and extended an olive branch. If anyone says that having the leader of North Korea at the table, for even the briefest of cordial meetings is a bad thing, they are fucking delusional.
    I’m not going to say it’s a bad thing, nor am I going to say it’s necessarily a good thing. NK’s statement is virtually identical to the one they made the last go ‘round, and we have seen how well they carried that out. Another statement on its own means not much of anything. The mere fact of a meeting, on its own, means not much of anything. 
    This. So far all I've heard from this meeting is platitudes and a photo op. If something meaningful comes of this then I will give credit where credit is do, but based on the history I'm not very optimistic.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,364
    tbergs said:
    What you have is a business man acting as president who sees an opportunity for personal gains in an isolated and poorly developed country. He is again using his position to formally give a known human rights destroying dictator recognition and praise. It's vile and disgusting. There is an angle to every action.
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  • my2hands
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    People realize that NK agreed to denuclearization in 1993, right? 

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