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"Trump basically done nothing?"PJ_Soul said:
I didn't give Trump credit for it. From what I can tell, Trump's basically done nothing besides suggest a meeting. I give Kim Jong Un the credit for the release of the hostages - I saw nothing to suggest this release was specifically negotiated. Seems more like Un just decided to it. If there were negotiations of any sort, I've seen nothing to suggest that Trump was involved in them. Un is also the one who requested this upcoming meeting between him and Trump. Trump gets credit for agreeing to attend I guess, although it's probably far too early for that, since we don't know what Trump is going to do at the meeting, and I think we're all justified in worrying about that. Is Trump going to be left alone with Un?? Trump says a lot of crazy shit a lot of the time - I'm worried about him being alone in a room with the second craziest leader in the world. Best to wait until after that before handing out kudos. We all still need to wait and see how all this shit turns out. It could easily go bad, considering the two major players.bbiggs said:I’m not even sure anyone on here gave trump praise or credit for the hostages’ release (i sure didn’t). I do know the first post was about the release announcement and the next thing you know, everyone starts saying trump is an ass hole. Where did that come from? It’s weird to me. We could get a news flash saying a scientist cured cancer and everyone would say trump sucks and why does he deserve credit. Lol. I’ll let the more brilliant minds discuss this one.
You give Kim Jong un credit for the release?
Trump & Pompeo said release the 3 Americans, or no meeting will occur. Come on now. The release wasn't negotiated. It was a precondition of the meeting.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-greets-americans-detainees-freed-north-korea-n872876
This is good stuff!
https://youtu.be/3kZeo7qItJA
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I prefer hostages that weren't captured.
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Obama released hostages from NK: 11
Team Trump Treason released hostages from NK: 3
Where was all the soaring rhetoric about birds of freedom and chants of USA USA USA when that happened? Oh yea, “Our number one priority is to see this administration fail.”
”Un is very honorable.”
””Un treated them very well for three years.”
”Broke record for 3:00 a.m. tv ratings”
Team Trump Treason still made it all about him. They were but pawns in his alternative reality. Didn’t even have the decency to have their loved ones present, lest it take away from his moment.
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Duly noted: we grant you official PJ forum hostage scorekeeper!Halifax2TheMax said:Obama released hostages from NK: 11
Team Trump Treason released hostages from NK: 3
Where was all the soaring rhetoric about birds of freedom and chants of USA USA USA when that happened? Oh yea, “Our number one priority is to see this administration fail.”
”Un is very honorable.”
””Un treated them very well for three years.”
”Broke record for 3:00 a.m. tv ratings”
Team Trump Treason still made it all about him. They were but pawns in his alternative reality. Didn’t even have the decency to have their loved ones present, lest it take away from his moment.
Unbelievable how much Team Trump Treason snake oil some on here consume. Regularly.
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North Korea to hold nuclear site dismantling ‘ceremony’ ahead of summit with Trump
https://globalnews.ca/news/4204518/north-korea-ceremony-nuclear-site/?utm_medium=Facebook&utm_source=GlobalNational
Here’s why Singapore was chosen to host the summit between Trump and Kim Jong Un
https://globalnews.ca/news/4201913/singapore-donald-trump-kim-jong-un/
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UH-OH
North Korea Denounces Bolton, Threatens to Walk Away from Trump Summit
There was no attack on the thin-skinned U.S. president, but if Trump thinks he can brag about squeezing North Korea to give up all its nukes, he’d better think again.
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dignin said:
UH-OH
North Korea Denounces Bolton, Threatens to Walk Away from Trump Summit
There was no attack on the thin-skinned U.S. president, but if Trump thinks he can brag about squeezing North Korea to give up all its nukes, he’d better think again.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/north-korea-denounces-bolton-threatens-to-walk-away-from-trump-summit
I do not hide my "feelings of repugnance" toward Bolton, either. Nice to see they are shared.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
loldignin said:UH-OH
North Korea Denounces Bolton, Threatens to Walk Away from Trump Summit
There was no attack on the thin-skinned U.S. president, but if Trump thinks he can brag about squeezing North Korea to give up all its nukes, he’d better think again.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/north-korea-denounces-bolton-threatens-to-walk-away-from-trump-summit
In a statement carried by the North Korean news agency, obviously with Kim Jong Un’s approval, the first vice-minister of foreign affairs, Kim Kye Gwan feigned something close to heartbreak on hearing such “unbridled remarks” being “recklessly made” in the United States, and singled out Bolton in particular: “We do not hide our feeling of repugnance toward him.”
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Looks like Trump has blown it. What is the logic of war games near their border at this point in time?Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/20140
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Their excuse was that they were planned a long time ago.... and they chose not to cancel it. They somehow think this is a good excuse, I dunno.Thoughts_Arrive said:Looks like Trump has blown it. What is the logic of war games near their border at this point in time?
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Stupid people. I was happy to believe we'd finally have peace on the Korean peninsula and that North Korea would develop economically to help the impoverished people there.PJ_Soul said:
Their excuse was that they were planned a long time ago.... and they chose not to cancel it. They somehow think this is a good excuse, I dunno.Thoughts_Arrive said:Looks like Trump has blown it. What is the logic of war games near their border at this point in time?Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/20140 -
The talks still will take place. The thought of extracting money from the west is to tempting for little man. The US/South should have called his bluff and said "meetings are off"...Give Peas A Chance…0
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Trump has raised the expectations of the meeting to the point where the US is now in a terrible negotiating position. Trump claims that he will provide security "guarantees" to the regime. But what guarantee can Trump possibly provide that is stronger than the one NK currently possesses; nuclear warheads? Kim is negotiating for economic sanction relief for guarantees of peace. He will never give up his warheads. Why would he? It literally makes no sense.
To further bolster the point, the US and SK called off the planned exercises in the Peninsula to avoid jeopardizing the talks. Does that sound like a team negotiating from a position of power?
Trump has been duped and it was all too easy because of his outsized ego and giant mouth (and fat fingers).
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/18/us-cancels-south-korea-military-exercise-amid-north-korea-threats-report.html
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My money says those two clowns will fuck it up. Anyone taking bets?
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I agree... And how do they know the next administration won't pull out of those security guarantees? (See Iran deal)mrussel1 said:Trump has raised the expectations of the meeting to the point where the US is now in a terrible negotiating position. Trump claims that he will provide security "guarantees" to the regime. But what guarantee can Trump possibly provide that is stronger than the one NK currently possesses; nuclear warheads? Kim is negotiating for economic sanction relief for guarantees of peace. He will never give up his warheads. Why would he? It literally makes no sense.
To further bolster the point, the US and SK called off the planned exercises in the Peninsula to avoid jeopardizing the talks. Does that sound like a team negotiating from a position of power?
Trump has been duped and it was all too easy because of his outsized ego and giant mouth (and fat fingers).
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exactly. When Trump left the Iran deal, it raised the stakes of Trumps bar. He must have the treaty ratified by the Senate now.my2hands said:
I agree... And how do they know the next administration won't pull out of those security guarantees? (See Iran deal)mrussel1 said:Trump has raised the expectations of the meeting to the point where the US is now in a terrible negotiating position. Trump claims that he will provide security "guarantees" to the regime. But what guarantee can Trump possibly provide that is stronger than the one NK currently possesses; nuclear warheads? Kim is negotiating for economic sanction relief for guarantees of peace. He will never give up his warheads. Why would he? It literally makes no sense.
To further bolster the point, the US and SK called off the planned exercises in the Peninsula to avoid jeopardizing the talks. Does that sound like a team negotiating from a position of power?
Trump has been duped and it was all too easy because of his outsized ego and giant mouth (and fat fingers).
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But Team Trump Treason is smarter than all of his generals.mrussel1 said:
exactly. When Trump left the Iran deal, it raised the stakes of Trumps bar. He must have the treaty ratified by the Senate now.my2hands said:
I agree... And how do they know the next administration won't pull out of those security guarantees? (See Iran deal)mrussel1 said:Trump has raised the expectations of the meeting to the point where the US is now in a terrible negotiating position. Trump claims that he will provide security "guarantees" to the regime. But what guarantee can Trump possibly provide that is stronger than the one NK currently possesses; nuclear warheads? Kim is negotiating for economic sanction relief for guarantees of peace. He will never give up his warheads. Why would he? It literally makes no sense.
To further bolster the point, the US and SK called off the planned exercises in the Peninsula to avoid jeopardizing the talks. Does that sound like a team negotiating from a position of power?
Trump has been duped and it was all too easy because of his outsized ego and giant mouth (and fat fingers).
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