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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    my2hands said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Quick! Name the US ambassador to South Korea.
    My2hands?
    As good of a guess as any..
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    A nice summary from the American Conservative.  He's right.. Bolton poisoned it, but it's probably for the better.  

    After doing their best to antagonize North Korea over the last couple of weeks, the Trump administration is calling off the summit all together:

    U.S. President Donald Trump on Thursday called off a planned summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, even after North Korea followed through on a pledge to blow up tunnels at its nuclear test site.

    Referring to a scheduled June 12 meeting with Kim in Singapore, Trump said in a letter to the North Korean leader: “Sadly, based on the tremendous anger and open hostility displayed in your most recent statement, I feel it would be inappropriate, at this time, to have this long- planned meeting.”

    Trump is responding to North Korea’s vehement objections to Pence’s “Libya model” rhetoric, which was just an echo of Trump’s own reckless rhetoric from last week. Bolton is probably very pleased that the Libya comparison had exactly the provocative and destructive effect that he surely intended it to have when he first started talking about it months ago. Having thoroughly poisoned the atmosphere in the weeks leading up to the meeting, Bolton managed to sabotage diplomacy with North Korea with a minimum of effort.

    All things considered, it is probably better that the summit isn’t going to happen. It was a mistake to agree to the summit so hastily without doing any of the necessary preparation, and the public recriminations between the two sides over the last two weeks underscore how far apart the U.S. and North Korea remain on the main issues. Abruptly canceling the summit may undermine inter-Korean rapprochement in the short term, but going to the summit and then walking out on it–as administration officials kept promising they would do if their unrealistic demands weren’t met–would have done more damage.

  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,250
    mrussel1 said:
    A nice summary from the American Conservative.  He's right.. Bolton poisoned it, but it's probably for the better.  

    After doing their best to antagonize North Korea over the last couple of weeks, the Trump administration is calling off the summit all together:

    U.S. President Donald Trump on Thursday called off a planned summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, even after North Korea followed through on a pledge to blow up tunnels at its nuclear test site.

    Referring to a scheduled June 12 meeting with Kim in Singapore, Trump said in a letter to the North Korean leader: “Sadly, based on the tremendous anger and open hostility displayed in your most recent statement, I feel it would be inappropriate, at this time, to have this long- planned meeting.”

    Trump is responding to North Korea’s vehement objections to Pence’s “Libya model” rhetoric, which was just an echo of Trump’s own reckless rhetoric from last week. Bolton is probably very pleased that the Libya comparison had exactly the provocative and destructive effect that he surely intended it to have when he first started talking about it months ago. Having thoroughly poisoned the atmosphere in the weeks leading up to the meeting, Bolton managed to sabotage diplomacy with North Korea with a minimum of effort.

    All things considered, it is probably better that the summit isn’t going to happen. It was a mistake to agree to the summit so hastily without doing any of the necessary preparation, and the public recriminations between the two sides over the last two weeks underscore how far apart the U.S. and North Korea remain on the main issues. Abruptly canceling the summit may undermine inter-Korean rapprochement in the short term, but going to the summit and then walking out on it–as administration officials kept promising they would do if their unrealistic demands weren’t met–would have done more damage.

    yeah the Libyan model resulted in Ghadafi being dragged through the streets.  Not something to "model"
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  • dignin
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  • jeffbr
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    South Korea Responds To Trump’s Sudden Cancelation Of Kim Jong Un Summit

    “We are attempting to make sense of what, precisely, President Trump means.”

    Don't feel too bad, SK. We are all constantly trying to figure out what Trump means. 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    So that coin seemed to weird to me that I did a little research about it yesterday. I wanted to know if there was precedent for such an odd thing (made so much more strange with this morning's news, lol). Turns out it's not unprecedented.


    Although with this one, the two people on it aren't staring each other down like a couple of morons on a playground, lol.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,521
    apparently the WH nor President Dumbass have anything to do with the production of the coin:

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/22/politics/north-korea-us-coin/index.html

    But the coin -- which members of the White House Communications Agency create for every presidential trip abroad -- was not created or approved by the White House nor was it paid for using government funds.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    apparently the WH nor President Dumbass have anything to do with the production of the coin:

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/22/politics/north-korea-us-coin/index.html

    But the coin -- which members of the White House Communications Agency create for every presidential trip abroad -- was not created or approved by the White House nor was it paid for using government funds.

    There you go.... I'm actually surprised, just because it is SO Trump - right up his alley in all ways. That White House Communications Agency sure knows its president, lol.
    I wonder what those things are worth now? :pensive:




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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,521
    I saw another headline saying they were now being discounted. :lol:
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    edited May 2018
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I saw another headline saying they were now being discounted. :lol:
    Hmm. So these are sold at the White House Gift Shop, which was established by Truman..... But the White House claims to have nothing to do with them? That doesn't really make sense. They don't produce it, but sell it, so yes, they have something to do with it, and approve it.
    The gift shop site is REALLY slow btw - almost unusable. Not sure if it's because of general incompetency from everything connected to the WH now, or a ton of traffic from people who want the coin, in the hopes that it will be worth something someday, lol! Oh hey, there is actually another coin that includes South Korea as well.... Of course the WH hasn't managed to post images of either one in the store, but are selling them anyhow. :lol: Oh wait! The link to the coin with Un and Trump on it takes you to the coin with all three leaders supposedly on it..... Boy, the WH gift shop comes off like a scam website!

    And it says on it:

    "The Coin Will be Made Whether or Not the Summit Occurs as Scheduled
    Because the Theme isComing Closer to Peace and Celebrates the Act of Communication Among Countries
    If Summit Does Not Occur You can Request a Refund but Most Supporters Have Said They Want This Heirloom ofPolitical History Regardless of Outcome."


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  • my2hands
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    What. A. Shit. Show.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    "Heirloom of Political History." Will it be worth more after impeachment? I hope my kids' kids' kids' pass it on. Keep it in the family.
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  • PJ_Soul
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    More like an heirloom of political failure.
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  • brianlux
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    A-hem...


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  • i_lov_it
    i_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mattsl1983 said:
    So are we for peace with North Korea, or are we not?  Or is it that we want peace with North Korea but not under President Trump’s watch?  I’m so confused.
    That you believe Team Trump Treason is capable of negotiating with a burgeoning nuclear power is astounding. What previous successes has Team Trump Treason had at the negotiating table previously to give you such hope?
    Yeah I have my doubts too...as much as I want it to be true...
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,381
    i_lov_it said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mattsl1983 said:
    So are we for peace with North Korea, or are we not?  Or is it that we want peace with North Korea but not under President Trump’s watch?  I’m so confused.
    That you believe Team Trump Treason is capable of negotiating with a burgeoning nuclear power is astounding. What previous successes has Team Trump Treason had at the negotiating table previously to give you such hope?
    Yeah I have my doubts too...as much as I want it to be true...
    To be fair, it must be hard to prevent your oppressed wife from going nuclear when she finds out you had an affair with a pornstar after boasting about your ability to grab women by the pussies. Doesn’t that count as pivotable experience?
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  • Thoughts_Arrive
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    Has Trump received his Nobel prize yet?
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  • my2hands
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    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    Has Trump received his Nobel prize yet?
    It's currently being made in China
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    my2hands said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    Has Trump received his Nobel prize yet?
    It's currently being made in China
    With all the tariffs being slapped on it, the Nobel committee won’t be able to afford it.
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    Zing!

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