Opioid Addiction in the US, Heroin and Oxys

tempo_n_groove
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Here on Long Island the new buzz word is "Opioid Addiction".  I've watched this problem grow worse and worse since 1999.

In 1999 I was working in Virginia at a place called Pennington Gap and most of the teens and young adults all did pills.  They preferred pharmaceuticals than to real drugs.  Oxycontin pills were later refereed to as "hillbilly heroin".

Well now this problem isn't for the rural folks, it's in suburbia bigger than ever.

I've watched friends and family members in their 20's and below get sucked into this.

Teach your kids at a young age about everything that's out there...

https://www.newsday.com/long-island/long-island-drug-dealers-law-enforcement-1.14669152
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,795
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Here on Long Island the new buzz word is "Opioid Addiction".  I've watched this problem grow worse and worse since 1999.

    In 1999 I was working in Virginia at a place called Pennington Gap and most of the teens and young adults all did pills.  They preferred pharmaceuticals than to real drugs.  Oxycontin pills were later refereed to as "hillbilly heroin".

    Well now this problem isn't for the rural folks, it's in suburbia bigger than ever.

    I've watched friends and family members in their 20's and below get sucked into this.

    Teach your kids at a young age about everything that's out there...

    https://www.newsday.com/long-island/long-island-drug-dealers-law-enforcement-1.14669152
    It's easy to get hooked.  I was given Xanax for years for my ear hearing pain and anxiety.  Worked great for a while but after a few years being on it the effect kept decreasing and my intake increasing.  It was damn hard to kick.  Pharmaceuticals have their place and time but here in the US, they are way over prevalent.  I've hear somewhere around 70 percent of Americans take pharmaceuticals.  That's insane.  Now days, I refuse to take any pharmaceuticals.  No thanks!  Give me a little good natural cannabis with high CBD and I'm good to go.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,931
    In NYC the mayor wants more of these "nasal sprays" to be carried by people.  Since Mayor Diblasio announced this the prices of the drug Nalaxone have tripled...
    http://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/health/health-topics/naloxone.page

    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/surgeon-general-wants-naloxone-widely-hand-feasible-n866976

    I'm surprised this doesn't get more traction.
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Doctors have been over prescribing them for years to their patients ... but that's what doctors do, they try to meet the needs of their patients...unfortunately the damage is done and more doctors need to take the approach my dr. takes when it comes to opioids...he exhaust all options before opioids are prescribed, he drug test his patients who are on opioids before refilling script, fires a patient ASAP if you are trying to dr shop at walk-in-clinics and he finds out ... but most importantly he prefers his patients to try marijuana first.  At a walk -in-clinic I have visited in the past there is doctor who lost his prescription privileges from over prescribing opioids.




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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,931
    Meltdown99 said:
    Doctors have been over prescribing them for years to their patients ... but that's what doctors do, they try to meet the needs of their patients...unfortunately the damage is done and more doctors need to take the approach my dr. takes when it comes to opioids...he exhaust all options before opioids are prescribed, he drug test his patients who are on opioids before refilling script, fires a patient ASAP if you are trying to dr shop at walk-in-clinics and he finds out ... but most importantly he prefers his patients to try marijuana first.  At a walk -in-clinic I have visited in the past there is doctor who lost his prescription privileges from over prescribing opioids.




    Doctors were being put in jail for writing people bullshit scripts too.

    When the pharmaceutical company that makes a rehab drug for the opioid you know there's a damn problem...
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    tempo_n_groove said:
    In NYC the mayor wants more of these "nasal sprays" to be carried by people.  Since Mayor Diblasio announced this the prices of the drug Nalaxone have tripled...
    http://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/health/health-topics/naloxone.page

    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/surgeon-general-wants-naloxone-widely-hand-feasible-n866976

    I'm surprised this doesn't get more traction.
    Narcan has gained a lot of traction.  Many ambulances and first responders carry it. And more insurance companies are paying for it. Pain doctors are also offering to their patients that are long term users. 
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  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    One huge conflict of interest though,  is the same companies that are manufacturing these opiates are now manufacturing the naloxone.  So, they're getting paid. 
    will myself to find a home, a home within myself
    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Doctors have been over prescribing them for years to their patients ... but that's what doctors do, they try to meet the needs of their patients...unfortunately the damage is done and more doctors need to take the approach my dr. takes when it comes to opioids...he exhaust all options before opioids are prescribed, he drug test his patients who are on opioids before refilling script, fires a patient ASAP if you are trying to dr shop at walk-in-clinics and he finds out ... but most importantly he prefers his patients to try marijuana first.  At a walk -in-clinic I have visited in the past there is doctor who lost his prescription privileges from over prescribing opioids.




    Doctors were being put in jail for writing people bullshit scripts too.

    When the pharmaceutical company that makes a rehab drug for the opioid you know there's a damn problem...
    I've never heard of a doctor in Canada going to jail for over-prescribing.  You do know that people need to be responsible as well.  No one forces these people to take these drugs...
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,931
    Meltdown99 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Doctors have been over prescribing them for years to their patients ... but that's what doctors do, they try to meet the needs of their patients...unfortunately the damage is done and more doctors need to take the approach my dr. takes when it comes to opioids...he exhaust all options before opioids are prescribed, he drug test his patients who are on opioids before refilling script, fires a patient ASAP if you are trying to dr shop at walk-in-clinics and he finds out ... but most importantly he prefers his patients to try marijuana first.  At a walk -in-clinic I have visited in the past there is doctor who lost his prescription privileges from over prescribing opioids.




    Doctors were being put in jail for writing people bullshit scripts too.

    When the pharmaceutical company that makes a rehab drug for the opioid you know there's a damn problem...
    I've never heard of a doctor in Canada going to jail for over-prescribing.  You do know that people need to be responsible as well.  No one forces these people to take these drugs...
    There were many a doctor taking bribes/favors, whatever for scripts.  This isn't anything new.  
    https://globalnews.ca/news/3389719/ontario-doctor-who-trafficked-fentanyl-and-forged-prescriptions-sentenced-to-2-years/

    This happens here a lot too.
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    That's trafficking and forgery ... not over-prescribing.  
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,931
    Meltdown99 said:
    That's trafficking and forgery ... not over-prescribing.  
    I never mentioned over prescribing but you apparently have only had one case!
    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-only-ontario-doctor-disciplined-for-prescribing-opioids-agrees-to-give/
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,501
    It's gotten really bad here where I live.  Pills, meth, heroin... it's all booming.

    One of the reasons I changed doctors 2 years ago and chose the one I did is because she will not prescribe pain medication.  At least someone in the medical field has enough gall not to perpetuate the problem.
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    HesCalledDyer said:
    It's gotten really bad here where I live.  Pills, meth, heroin... it's all booming.

    One of the reasons I changed doctors 2 years ago and chose the one I did is because she will not prescribe pain medication.  At least someone in the medical field has enough gall not to perpetuate the problem.
    It sounds like you have a good doctor.  
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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Here it is legal pain killers killing people more than smack.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,931
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    Here it is legal pain killers killing people more than smack.
    It starts off with pain killers because they are pretty much in everyones cabinet.  Then they turn to heroin because it's cheaper and easier to get.

    I've been told if you go down the needle route there isn't a very good chance of you coming back from it...
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,161
    But but we have an administration that has done zero nada zilch on this front or am I wrong ? , all I ever hear from the head of it is if we build a wall this will all go away ! 
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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    Here it is legal pain killers killing people more than smack.
    It starts off with pain killers because they are pretty much in everyones cabinet.  Then they turn to heroin because it's cheaper and easier to get.

    I've been told if you go down the needle route there isn't a very good chance of you coming back from it...
    I can see why people get on it.
    I was prescribed some strong pain killers when I broke a bone in my foot.
    Fuck it was the best feeling I've had. I couldn't work out why I felt so warm, fuzzy, and happy until I read the packet haha.
    I was tempted to pop a few more after I no longer needed them but my mind said don't do it.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,931
    josevolution said:
    But but we have an administration that has done zero nada zilch on this front or am I wrong ? , all I ever hear from the head of it is if we build a wall this will all go away ! 
    Jose I haven't seen any administration be able to do much with it.  I've watched this get worse and worse starting back in 99 so that is 4 different presidents and nothing was really done but take ephedrine off the shelves and make oxycontin possession a more punishable crime.

    Every rap song talks about popping pills now.  Hell Eminem was rapping about it in the late 90's...

    Education and have doctors stop prescribing these drugs like they are candy?

  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Amazing how these highly addicted doctor prescribed pain meds are really available...yet the somehow marijuana remains illegal in most places...including Canada.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,161
    I hear you and agree they are all complicit ..
    https://amp.clarionledger.com/amp/1043205001
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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    edited May 2018
    I learned something interesting in my lecture on addiction today...
    The opposite of addiction is connection.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014

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