Opioid Addiction in the US, Heroin and Oxys

Thoughts_Arrive

Glad you thought so.
Do you guys have safe injecting rooms in the US?

Meltdown99

hedonist said:

tempo_n_groove said:

hedonist said:

I was recently in the hospital and was given Oxy; upon discharge, got a prescription for 5mg which does nothing.  It has been incredibly tempting to take more than one at a time (hell, I'm not even taking them now; it's pointless) just to relieve the pain, but I'm resolute in not becoming dependent on it or any other opioid - or anything - as the prospect scares the hell out of me.

I don't want to hurt anymore though.

How do others deal with it?  I believe I'm no stronger than anyone else.

Shame on any medical professionals who are so reckless with their care.

CBD oil or try smoking a joint.

Seriously.

I've been using cannabis in various forms but it sadly isn't a cure-all.  And I'm laying off the tinctures as I was using a lot and the oils/mixes didn't sit well with me.  Flower and edibles for now; they do help some with relaxation and sleep.

Meltdown, I don't know.  Mine do nothing, so why would I even follow the instructions to take them?  May be moot anyway, as I've been told to take them as needed.  I'm more frightened of relying on them than the pain itself.  That said, I can completely see someone upping their dosage out of desperation.  Makes sense yet no sense.

often, thank you.  My liver dictates no standard OTC relief.  I'm hopefully starting physical therapy next week which may bring some relief (pleeeease!).  Still, it would be nice - a mental relief, even - to have a small stash of "if I absolutely need to's".

And mickey, I meant to say...well, you know.  And I wish you well.

That's the thing with Cannabis, what works me, might not work for you...so I do apologize.   For some, it's trial and error.

Meltdown99

mickeyrat said:

Meltdown99 said:

Ohio doctor charged with 25 counts of murder, accused of prescribing excessive doses of painkillers
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ohio-doctor-charged-25-counts-murder-accused-prescribing-excessive-doses-n970026?fbclid=IwAR3kod_UARGGitHvabYPw2hcsOp1MNyfeXHDtMlADQu03ypx88sR0pOwekA

this was a doctor overprescribing IN A HOSPITAL.  He had help. The pharmacist, the nursing staff that actually administered the medications. All of whom should have spoken up.....

Yes, you raised valid points.  It seems hospitals need better checks and balance system...

Meltdown99

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Glad you thought so.
Do you guys have safe injecting rooms in the US?

In Canada, we have safe injection sites and soon safe injection sites in prison...

hedonist

Meltdown99 said:

hedonist said:

tempo_n_groove said:

hedonist said:

I was recently in the hospital and was given Oxy; upon discharge, got a prescription for 5mg which does nothing.  It has been incredibly tempting to take more than one at a time (hell, I'm not even taking them now; it's pointless) just to relieve the pain, but I'm resolute in not becoming dependent on it or any other opioid - or anything - as the prospect scares the hell out of me.

I don't want to hurt anymore though.

How do others deal with it?  I believe I'm no stronger than anyone else.

Shame on any medical professionals who are so reckless with their care.

CBD oil or try smoking a joint.

Seriously.

I've been using cannabis in various forms but it sadly isn't a cure-all.  And I'm laying off the tinctures as I was using a lot and the oils/mixes didn't sit well with me.  Flower and edibles for now; they do help some with relaxation and sleep.

Meltdown, I don't know.  Mine do nothing, so why would I even follow the instructions to take them?  May be moot anyway, as I've been told to take them as needed.  I'm more frightened of relying on them than the pain itself.  That said, I can completely see someone upping their dosage out of desperation.  Makes sense yet no sense.

often, thank you.  My liver dictates no standard OTC relief.  I'm hopefully starting physical therapy next week which may bring some relief (pleeeease!).  Still, it would be nice - a mental relief, even - to have a small stash of "if I absolutely need to's".

And mickey, I meant to say...well, you know.  And I wish you well.

That's the thing with Cannabis, what works me, might not work for you...so I do apologize.   For some, it's trial and error.

Thank you, and while I agree about cannabis, I was speaking of Oxy specifically in my case.

tempo_n_groove

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Glad you thought so.
Do you guys have safe injecting rooms in the US?

I have never heard of them.  The majority of people would go nuts over that I'd think.

Seattle might be a good candidate to try that considering the little house thing is becoming them it seems.

mickeyrat

tempo_n_groove said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Glad you thought so.
Do you guys have safe injecting rooms in the US?

I have never heard of them.  The majority of people would go nuts over that I'd think.

Seattle might be a good candidate to try that considering the little house thing is becoming them it seems.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/azeenghorayshi/philadelphia-safe-injection-site

tempo_n_groove

mickeyrat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Glad you thought so.
Do you guys have safe injecting rooms in the US?

I have never heard of them.  The majority of people would go nuts over that I'd think.

Seattle might be a good candidate to try that considering the little house thing is becoming them it seems.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/azeenghorayshi/philadelphia-safe-injection-site

Philly?  Wouldn't have seen that coming.  Seattle I'd expect.

So there you have it, we have 2 cities with them.

Crazy.

Hi!

My friend, who works at a hospital, tells me it is actually pretty common that people will shoot up right in hospital parking lots in case of overdose. I live in a fairly small but very conservative “wealthy” town and she says drug ods or related situations are one of the most common reasons for er. visit. I’ve done my fair share of Vicodin and glad I never really liked them especially considering my addictive personality. I do know after doing them even just a week or so pretty heavy how shitty I would feel for like a whole week afterwards and actually make common pains feel worse.

mickeyrat

tempo_n_groove said:

mickeyrat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Glad you thought so.
Do you guys have safe injecting rooms in the US?

I have never heard of them.  The majority of people would go nuts over that I'd think.

Seattle might be a good candidate to try that considering the little house thing is becoming them it seems.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/azeenghorayshi/philadelphia-safe-injection-site

Philly?  Wouldn't have seen that coming.  Seattle I'd expect.

So there you have it, we have 2 cities with them.

Crazy.

recall hearing about a very young mayor somewhere in upstate or western new york with the idea to do the same.

tempo_n_groove

mickeyrat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mickeyrat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Glad you thought so.
Do you guys have safe injecting rooms in the US?

I have never heard of them.  The majority of people would go nuts over that I'd think.

Seattle might be a good candidate to try that considering the little house thing is becoming them it seems.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/azeenghorayshi/philadelphia-safe-injection-site

Philly?  Wouldn't have seen that coming.  Seattle I'd expect.

So there you have it, we have 2 cities with them.

Crazy.

recall hearing about a very young mayor somewhere in upstate or western new york with the idea to do the same.

Upstate might as well be another country to us here.  We get zero news about what happens up there.

brianlux

Hi! said:

My friend, who works at a hospital, tells me it is actually pretty common that people will shoot up right in hospital parking lots in case of overdose. I live in a fairly small but very conservative “wealthy” town and she says drug ods or related situations are one of the most common reasons for er. visit. I’ve done my fair share of Vicodin and glad I never really liked them especially considering my addictive personality. I do know after doing them even just a week or so pretty heavy how shitty I would feel for like a whole week afterwards and actually make common pains feel worse.

I'm lucky in that all pain killers make me feel like shit- so much so that pain is less of a problem.  Benzodiazapines and opium, on the other hand are like candy to me.  I have/ have to stay away from them.  Thank goodness for cannabis. 

Hi!

brianlux said:

Hi! said:

My friend, who works at a hospital, tells me it is actually pretty common that people will shoot up right in hospital parking lots in case of overdose. I live in a fairly small but very conservative “wealthy” town and she says drug ods or related situations are one of the most common reasons for er. visit. I’ve done my fair share of Vicodin and glad I never really liked them especially considering my addictive personality. I do know after doing them even just a week or so pretty heavy how shitty I would feel for like a whole week afterwards and actually make common pains feel worse.

I'm lucky in that all pain killers make me feel like shit- so much so that pain is less of a problem.  Benzodiazapines and opium, on the other hand are like candy to me.  I have/ have to stay away from them.  Thank goodness for cannabis. 

Yep, l like weed, coffee, and cigs. Never got into drinking much, thank god. All my brothers are severe alcoholics.
i had a bad Adderall addiction for like 6 yrs. Fuck.... I actually did some the other week, for the first time in yrs, never again. I got 40 30’s and did like 15 of them in a weekend. When I started crashing, flushed the rest down the toilet. Evil fucking shit, and they be giving that shit to little kids. Fucked up. Never again.

Thoughts_Arrive

tempo_n_groove said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Glad you thought so.
Do you guys have safe injecting rooms in the US?

I have never heard of them.  The majority of people would go nuts over that I'd think.

Seattle might be a good candidate to try that considering the little house thing is becoming them it seems.

Is Seattle the heroin capital of the US?
If so, what are the reasons?

Thoughts_Arrive

Any ex-heroin addicts here? Is it really that hard to kick?

tempo_n_groove

Thoughts_Arrive said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Glad you thought so.
Do you guys have safe injecting rooms in the US?

I have never heard of them.  The majority of people would go nuts over that I'd think.

Seattle might be a good candidate to try that considering the little house thing is becoming them it seems.

Is Seattle the heroin capital of the US?
If so, what are the reasons?

It is all debatable on "why".

Let some of the locals chime in as they have in the "homeless" thread.  They have a much better grip on this then I would.

Meltdown99

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Any ex-heroin addicts here? Is it really that hard to kick?

Yeah, any drug that you inject in your view is bad and very dumb.  Drugs were discussed in high school and heroin addiction is so damaging. I have a friend who is a nurse who worked with homeless and addicted...it's tragic that they see no other way that staying in a drug-induced haze.  

American Cities with the Highest Addiction Rates
https://www.dualdiagnosis.org/american-cities-with-the-highest-addiction-rates/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd3oqvnDKQk

Hi!

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Any ex-heroin addicts here? Is it really that hard to kick?

I talked with a guy once who did it once and he said it was so good it scared the shit out of him and he never did it again. Better than sex is also how he described it. I can’t even imagine what withdrawal would be like.

Thoughts_Arrive

Meltdown99 said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Any ex-heroin addicts here? Is it really that hard to kick?

Yeah, any drug that you inject in your view is bad and very dumb.  Drugs were discussed in high school and heroin addiction is so damaging. I have a friend who is a nurse who worked with homeless and addicted...it's tragic that they see no other way that staying in a drug-induced haze.  

American Cities with the Highest Addiction Rates
https://www.dualdiagnosis.org/american-cities-with-the-highest-addiction-rates/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd3oqvnDKQk

Funny you posted that as I am listening to Neil Young haha.

Thoughts_Arrive

Hi! said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Any ex-heroin addicts here? Is it really that hard to kick?

I talked with a guy once who did it once and he said it was so good it scared the shit out of him and he never did it again. Better than sex is also how he described it. I can’t even imagine what withdrawal would be like.

The best feeling I've had was with painkillers after I broke a bone in my foot. I didn't know much about drugs at the time. I felt warm, euphoric and my depression and anxiety was wiped away. I'd like to have that feeling all the time without addiction.