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  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 20,217
    respect
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,931
    Wobbie said:
    LBJ > MJ
    Stop it. I’m the biggest lebron fanboy there is but he’s not better than MJ. He’s not better than Kobe...

    i measure thst in championships. As a player in general though? Lebron all the way. 


  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,646
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Wobbie said:
    LBJ > MJ
    Stop it. I’m the biggest lebron fanboy there is but he’s not better than MJ. He’s not better than Kobe...

    i measure thst in championships. As a player in general though? Lebron all the way. 


    I'm confused....I measure it "as a player in general" also. LBJ > MJ, even if he will never match him in rings. you agree with that?

    BTW, I didn't think last night's shot had a prayer :lol:
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
    Missoula 24
  • Indifference71
    Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,925
    Wobbie said:
    LBJ > MJ

    LOL.
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,802
    Jordan would not have taken a last place team and make them contenders.
    I miss igotid88
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,646
    Indifference71 said:
    Wobbie said:
    LBJ > MJ

    LOL.

    where do you live?

    oh, right.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
    Missoula 24
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,802
    Pearl Jam reference at the end
    I miss igotid88
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,249
    In a few years the CELTICS basketball team will a force (JT#0) in the NBA. I just wish the BRUINS would get their act/play together.

    peace
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  • Indifference71
    Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,925
    Wobbie said:
    Indifference71 said:
    Wobbie said:
    LBJ > MJ

    LOL.

    where do you live?

    oh, right.
    Lebron is incredible...he's obviously one of the best players ever, but Jordan being 6-0 in the Finals is just insane.  Lebron's teams have lost how many times in the Finals?  4 or 5 I think.
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,802
    Indifference71 said:
    Wobbie said:
    Indifference71 said:
    Wobbie said:
    LBJ > MJ

    LOL.

    where do you live?

    oh, right.
    Lebron is incredible...he's obviously one of the best players ever, but Jordan being 6-0 in the Finals is just insane.  Lebron's teams have lost how many times in the Finals?  4 or 5 I think.
    But LeBron's teams other than Miami were not the Bulls in those Finals. MJ had a team and Phil Jackson. 
    I miss igotid88
  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,343
    Indifference71 said:
    Wobbie said:
    Indifference71 said:
    Wobbie said:
    LBJ > MJ

    LOL.

    where do you live?

    oh, right.
    Lebron is incredible...he's obviously one of the best players ever, but Jordan being 6-0 in the Finals is just insane.  Lebron's teams have lost how many times in the Finals?  4 or 5 I think.
    Bill Russell went 11-1 in his 13 year career. Not sure their are words  to describe that accomplishment. 

    Houston looks like ther gonna make another Series in this round not being close.(Unless Utah can come back)
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,931
    Wobbie said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Wobbie said:
    LBJ > MJ
    Stop it. I’m the biggest lebron fanboy there is but he’s not better than MJ. He’s not better than Kobe...

    i measure thst in championships. As a player in general though? Lebron all the way. 


    I'm confused....I measure it "as a player in general" also. LBJ > MJ, even if he will never match him in rings. you agree with that?

    BTW, I didn't think last night's shot had a prayer :lol:
    The "as a player in general" means the player.  Lebron is the best player I've seen hands down.  MJ is the greatest though because of what he did in the finals.  It's A really tough dilemma but it's fun to talk about.

    So I agree that LBJ is better than Jordan, yes.  I started saying that a while ago by just the things that he accomplished/did as a player.

    MJ is the best because when he went to the finals he was an assassin...

    My Mt Rushmore is Magic, MJ, Kobe and Lebron.


  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,931
    cutz said:
    Indifference71 said:
    Wobbie said:
    Indifference71 said:
    Wobbie said:
    LBJ > MJ

    LOL.

    where do you live?

    oh, right.
    Lebron is incredible...he's obviously one of the best players ever, but Jordan being 6-0 in the Finals is just insane.  Lebron's teams have lost how many times in the Finals?  4 or 5 I think.
    Bill Russell went 11-1 in his 13 year career. Not sure their are words  to describe that accomplishment. 

    Houston looks like ther gonna make another Series in this round not being close.(Unless Utah can come back)
    That whole celtics team were HOF'ers.  It's not a fair comparison.

    Lebron did take a few teams that stunk, to the finals.  He is just that good.

    The bulls run with Jordan also had a piece of the puzzle that everyone forgets to mention.  Scottie Pippen.  One of the BEST basketball players I've ever watched
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,501
    igotid88 said:
    Jordan would not have taken a last place team and make them contenders.
    He took the 2nd worst team in the NBA from the previous year to the playoffs his rookie year. A team whose number in the win column had declined 3 years in a row.
    Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 25
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,931
    HesCalledDyer said:
    igotid88 said:
    Jordan would not have taken a last place team and make them contenders.
    He took the 2nd worst team in the NBA from the previous year to the playoffs his rookie year. A team whose number in the win column had declined 3 years in a row.
    That's not even the same thing as I believe Shaquile did something of a similar feat but also went to the finals and beat #45 in the playoffs.

    Shaqs third year in the league.
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,501
    Yeah, Shaq took a 21 win team and only missed the playoffs his rookie season by tiebreak.
    Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 25
  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 20,217
    Tonight we wipe..
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,343
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Wobbie said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Wobbie said:
    LBJ > MJ
    Stop it. I’m the biggest lebron fanboy there is but he’s not better than MJ. He’s not better than Kobe...

    i measure thst in championships. As a player in general though? Lebron all the way. 


    I'm confused....I measure it "as a player in general" also. LBJ > MJ, even if he will never match him in rings. you agree with that?

    BTW, I didn't think last night's shot had a prayer :lol:
    The "as a player in general" means the player.  Lebron is the best player I've seen hands down.  MJ is the greatest though because of what he did in the finals.  It's A really tough dilemma but it's fun to talk about.

    So I agree that LBJ is better than Jordan, yes.  I started saying that a while ago by just the things that he accomplished/did as a player.

    MJ is the best because when he went to the finals he was an assassin...

    My Mt Rushmore is Magic, MJ, Kobe and Lebron.


    No Wilt Chamberlain on your Mt. Rushmore? Oscar Robertson?  Or, is your Mt. Rushmore based on players you've seen during your lifetime? (If so, that's a really good list).
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,501
    I don't even think I could do an "in my lifetime" NBA Rushmore.  How do you take only 4 from:  Jordan, Magic, Bird, Olajuwon, Shaq, Duncan, Erving, Iverson, Kareem, Miller, Kobe, Lebron, Allen.
    Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 25
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,931
    cutz said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Wobbie said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Wobbie said:
    LBJ > MJ
    Stop it. I’m the biggest lebron fanboy there is but he’s not better than MJ. He’s not better than Kobe...

    i measure thst in championships. As a player in general though? Lebron all the way. 


    I'm confused....I measure it "as a player in general" also. LBJ > MJ, even if he will never match him in rings. you agree with that?

    BTW, I didn't think last night's shot had a prayer :lol:
    The "as a player in general" means the player.  Lebron is the best player I've seen hands down.  MJ is the greatest though because of what he did in the finals.  It's A really tough dilemma but it's fun to talk about.

    So I agree that LBJ is better than Jordan, yes.  I started saying that a while ago by just the things that he accomplished/did as a player.

    MJ is the best because when he went to the finals he was an assassin...

    My Mt Rushmore is Magic, MJ, Kobe and Lebron.


    No Wilt Chamberlain on your Mt. Rushmore? Oscar Robertson?  Or, is your Mt. Rushmore based on players you've seen during your lifetime? (If so, that's a really good list).
    The reason there is no Robertson is because he won only one title.  No Chamberlin because he had no real competition and didn't win a title until he started playing as a team player(he had Russell, I know but that was only one person).  No George Mikan because there was no one like him at the time so his dominance was unmatched.

    To be a "great" or a Rushmore type you had to win more than 2 titles and competed amongst the best of your piers.

    Jordan, Magic, Kobe and Lebron all did that. 

    Bird and Russell were/are hard to leave off that list.  Jabbar created a shot that no one could block so he amassed the most points in history.

    I could go on and on...

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