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This is so corrupt and crazy it's unbelievable, but then I realized it's Alabama. Note to self, never visit Alabama. This sheriff should go to jail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgb3S9Brej0
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tbergs said:This is so corrupt and crazy it's unbelievable, but then I realized it's Alabama. Note to self, never visit Alabama. This sheriff should go to jail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgb3S9Brej0
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mace1229 said:tbergs said:This is so corrupt and crazy it's unbelievable, but then I realized it's Alabama. Note to self, never visit Alabama. This sheriff should go to jail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgb3S9Brej0
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Nice job Sacramento police. Fuckin up again. This time a hit and run? Dude who did it needs to be in jail.
https://theundefeated.com/features/hours-after-matt-barnes-hosts-peaceful-rally-for-stephon-clark-in-sacramento-sheriffs-department-car-hits-protester/
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I read that story, but hadn't watched the video. I was hoping it was some sort of accident where they may not have known they made impact, but that definitely does not seem to be the case. I will say that walking in front of a squad with full lights on is stupid no matter how fast it is moving. It doesn't mean you should be hit, but there are risks involved and it is not completely clear from that little video what happened directly after that, which may have been the reason no officers stayed on the scene. I read a report that the police are claiming the rear window of that squad was broken out and there is minor damage to it as well from "vandals". Hopefully some more video and specific details about the encounter can clarify what happened.
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-stephon-clark-vigil-sacramento-20180331-story.html
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A second squad car did the hit and run. Allegedly.
Per the video, the sheriff’s deputy said, “Back away from my vehicle” four times as he incrementally began to move the car. Approximately 30 people were around the first vehicle when it started to pull off. Cleveland, hearing the command and dealing with arthritis in her knees that was causing her pain, started making her way to the curb in accordance with the deputy’s demands.
As she was attempting to reach the sidewalk, a second sheriff’s vehicle sped up unexpectedly, Cleveland said, and hit her in the knee, which sent her airborne and into the curb.
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A BETRAYAL
The teenager told police all about his gang, MS-13. In return, he was slated for deportation and marked for death.
https://features.propublica.org/ms-13/a-betrayal-ms13-gang-police-fbi-ice-deportation/
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dignin said:
A BETRAYAL
The teenager told police all about his gang, MS-13. In return, he was slated for deportation and marked for death.
https://features.propublica.org/ms-13/a-betrayal-ms13-gang-police-fbi-ice-deportation/
Sad story.
A tough situation for all.
I don't blame the US at all for wanting to rid itself of MS-13 activity. The problem here, obviously, is that they used the kid and disregarded him after attaining their information. This doesn't bode well for future 'deals'.
As for the kid himself... eesh. If we take the story at face value (because sometimes there is more to the story), the kid never really had a chance at any point: he was doomed to become a member and doomed trying to leave the organization regardless of what he wanted for himself.
His story is likely a common one."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
Thirty Bills Unpaid said:dignin said:
A BETRAYAL
The teenager told police all about his gang, MS-13. In return, he was slated for deportation and marked for death.
https://features.propublica.org/ms-13/a-betrayal-ms13-gang-police-fbi-ice-deportation/
Sad story.
A tough situation for all.
I don't blame the US at all for wanting to rid itself of MS-13 activity. The problem here, obviously, is that they used the kid and disregarded him after attaining their information. This doesn't bode well for future 'deals'.
As for the kid himself... eesh. If we take the story at face value (because sometimes there is more to the story), the kid never really had a chance at any point: he was doomed to become a member and doomed trying to leave the organization regardless of what he wanted for himself.
His story is likely a common one.0 -
dignin said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:dignin said:
A BETRAYAL
The teenager told police all about his gang, MS-13. In return, he was slated for deportation and marked for death.
https://features.propublica.org/ms-13/a-betrayal-ms13-gang-police-fbi-ice-deportation/
Sad story.
A tough situation for all.
I don't blame the US at all for wanting to rid itself of MS-13 activity. The problem here, obviously, is that they used the kid and disregarded him after attaining their information. This doesn't bode well for future 'deals'.
As for the kid himself... eesh. If we take the story at face value (because sometimes there is more to the story), the kid never really had a chance at any point: he was doomed to become a member and doomed trying to leave the organization regardless of what he wanted for himself.
His story is likely a common one.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
josevolution said:dignin said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:dignin said:
A BETRAYAL
The teenager told police all about his gang, MS-13. In return, he was slated for deportation and marked for death.
https://features.propublica.org/ms-13/a-betrayal-ms13-gang-police-fbi-ice-deportation/
Sad story.
A tough situation for all.
I don't blame the US at all for wanting to rid itself of MS-13 activity. The problem here, obviously, is that they used the kid and disregarded him after attaining their information. This doesn't bode well for future 'deals'.
As for the kid himself... eesh. If we take the story at face value (because sometimes there is more to the story), the kid never really had a chance at any point: he was doomed to become a member and doomed trying to leave the organization regardless of what he wanted for himself.
His story is likely a common one.
terrible story. he was fucked from the start. and now he is really fucked.hopefully some gang members will get that Narc that turned him in.
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Finally an officer is charged for the vicious beating of a "suspect", whose crime was jaywalking. The officer in question resigned earlier this year before he could be fired, and now faces charges of assault. Can't wait to see all those instances of white police officers beating white jaywalkers that I'm sure exist.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/04/newly-released-videos-asheville-north-carolina-police-beating-black-man-jaywalking.html
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Jaywalking.
It’s the middle of the night and I saw maybe 7 cars in all three of the videos. Pock-mark zit-faced prick was just out looking for a reason to be an asshole. Yeah, it was stupid of Rush to run, but he never should have been stopped in the first place.
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oftenreading said:Finally an officer is charged for the vicious beating of a "suspect", whose crime was jaywalking. The officer in question resigned earlier this year before he could be fired, and now faces charges of assault. Can't wait to see all those instances of white police officers beating white jaywalkers that I'm sure exist.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/04/newly-released-videos-asheville-north-carolina-police-beating-black-man-jaywalking.html0 -
dignin said:oftenreading said:Finally an officer is charged for the vicious beating of a "suspect", whose crime was jaywalking. The officer in question resigned earlier this year before he could be fired, and now faces charges of assault. Can't wait to see all those instances of white police officers beating white jaywalkers that I'm sure exist.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/04/newly-released-videos-asheville-north-carolina-police-beating-black-man-jaywalking.html
The problem started with the bogus jaywalking ticket: why? Why ticket the guy? It's night time... traffic is super light... and the guy is hardly a problem. Is police work there so uninteresting that a jaywalker trying to walk home after work demands four officers of the law at night?
Obviously, it might have been better to laugh and move on rather than chase the jaywalking suspect down and beat him up. This didn't happen because the cop wouldn't relinquish power. It also would have been better if the guy hadn't run (I maintain that's the last thing to do- it triggers an entirely different set of circumstances and stresses).
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I think that the weight of evidence suggests that oftentimes, black people have every reason to think it might be worth trying to flee police in the US. It's not like it tends to work out all that well if they don't flee.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0
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oftenreading said:I think that the weight of evidence suggests that oftentimes, black people have every reason to think it might be worth trying to flee police in the US. It's not like it tends to work out all that well if they don't flee.
I'm not defending everything police every do, but to imply "it tends to not work out all that well" is also completely untrue. The encounters that end peacefully out number the violent ones 1000 to 1.
Before some of you jump down asking for stats and links, I dont have one that gives that exact figure. But with 600,000 police emplyed, about half working the streets, thats 300,000 cops. At any given time about a 1/4 are out there on the street. Each one encounters dozens of people a day, so literally millions of people each day encounter police. And how many end violently due to race? The odds are still greatly in your favor to just cooperate.Post edited by mace1229 on0 -
Kind of hard to understand the logic in this one.
A young man (black, but I'm sure that's just a coincidence) is found guilty of felony murder and received a 30 year sentence for it, along with shorter concurrent sentences for theft and burglary. The interesting twist? He didn't kill anyone. One of the people he was with was shot dead by police, and Alabama law allows for a murder charge if someone is engaged in committing a crime with another person that leads to that person's death. Smith was 15 at the time but was tried as an adult, for a crime he didn't commit.
The officer who killed the other guy (Washington) was cleared of any wrongdoing. The convoluted logic seems to be that the officer who actually killed Washington was justified and thus not guilty of murder, but the guy with him, who didn't shoot anybody, is guilty of Washington's murder, even though he didn't get murdered because it was a justified shooting.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/lakeith-smith-adonte-washington-sentence-murder_us_5ac8df6de4b09d0a11943ba4
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oftenreading said:Kind of hard to understand the logic in this one.
A young man (black, but I'm sure that's just a coincidence) is found guilty of felony murder and received a 30 year sentence for it, along with shorter concurrent sentences for theft and burglary. The interesting twist? He didn't kill anyone. One of the people he was with was shot dead by police, and Alabama law allows for a murder charge if someone is engaged in committing a crime with another person that leads to that person's death. Smith was 15 at the time but was tried as an adult, for a crime he didn't commit.
The officer who killed the other guy (Washington) was cleared of any wrongdoing. The convoluted logic seems to be that the officer who actually killed Washington was justified and thus not guilty of murder, but the guy with him, who didn't shoot anybody, is guilty of Washington's murder, even though he didn't get murdered because it was a justified shooting.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/lakeith-smith-adonte-washington-sentence-murder_us_5ac8df6de4b09d0a11943ba4
It's too hard to understand because there's no way to understand it.
I read this story (I was drawn to the 'rejected 25 years and got 65 years' headline thinking some idiot played his hand poorly). To boot... it's not as if they were dealing with a career criminal who the courts have grown weary of. This was a 15 year old stealing stuff with other kids.
It's obscene.
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Thirty Bills Unpaid said:oftenreading said:Kind of hard to understand the logic in this one.
A young man (black, but I'm sure that's just a coincidence) is found guilty of felony murder and received a 30 year sentence for it, along with shorter concurrent sentences for theft and burglary. The interesting twist? He didn't kill anyone. One of the people he was with was shot dead by police, and Alabama law allows for a murder charge if someone is engaged in committing a crime with another person that leads to that person's death. Smith was 15 at the time but was tried as an adult, for a crime he didn't commit.
The officer who killed the other guy (Washington) was cleared of any wrongdoing. The convoluted logic seems to be that the officer who actually killed Washington was justified and thus not guilty of murder, but the guy with him, who didn't shoot anybody, is guilty of Washington's murder, even though he didn't get murdered because it was a justified shooting.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/lakeith-smith-adonte-washington-sentence-murder_us_5ac8df6de4b09d0a11943ba4
It's too hard to understand because there's no way to understand it.
I read this story (I was drawn to the 'rejected 25 years and got 65 years' headline thinking some idiot played his hand poorly). To boot... it's not as if they were dealing with a career criminal who the courts have grown weary of. This was a 15 year old stealing stuff with other kids.
It's obscene.0
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