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  • Taylors family gets 12 million from the city.

    You think they want this to go away?
    I bet they gladly throw that dirty$$ away if they could have their daughter alive again , I know I would screw the $$$ the cops need to be charged and careers ended today! 
    Taylors family gets 12 million from the city.

    You think they want this to go away?
    You think they’d like to have their daughter/sister back?
    Boy, you two are just 2 peas in a fucking pod...

    You think they (LOUISVILLE) wants this to go away?
    It could have been as easy as using “city” in place of “they.” In which case the answer should have been obvious, of course they do.
    My statement is written poorly and u are 100% correct.
  • I thought it was pretty obvious you meant that the city wanted it to go away. Whenever someone or something accused of something pays off the accuser, the one making the payment is the one that "wants it to go away." 
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  • wndowpaynewndowpayne Posts: 1,469
    I would take the money and put up billboards, start a college scholarship perhaps...Give to charities..,,,I couldnt spend a dime of it on myself knowing how I got it..
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  • wndowpaynewndowpayne Posts: 1,469
    Am I the only one that thinks it was a little person that shot those cops..really looks like a midget, if you will.
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  • Am I the only one that thinks it was a little person that shot those cops..really looks like a midget, if you will.
    My first thought was it was a child, but wasn’t sure if it was the camera angle or vertical compression of the footage.
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  • wndowpaynewndowpayne Posts: 1,469
    Am I the only one that thinks it was a little person that shot those cops..really looks like a midget, if you will.
    My first thought was it was a child, but wasn’t sure if it was the camera angle or vertical compression of the footage.

    Not taller than the car and when running looks like their legs are 2' long at best
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  • Am I the only one that thinks it was a little person that shot those cops..really looks like a midget, if you will.
    My first thought was it was a child, but wasn’t sure if it was the camera angle or vertical compression of the footage.

    Not taller than the car and when running looks like their legs are 2' long at best
    Your suggestion probably makes better sense as it better explains the shooter’s awkward run.
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,811
    Am I the only one that thinks it was a little person that shot those cops..really looks like a midget, if you will.
    My first thought was it was a child, but wasn’t sure if it was the camera angle or vertical compression of the footage.

    Not taller than the car and when running looks like their legs are 2' long at best
    Your suggestion probably makes better sense as it better explains the shooter’s awkward run.
    I saw somewhere in a news release that the image is distorted due to it being a fish eye type camera lens.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Am I the only one that thinks it was a little person that shot those cops..really looks like a midget, if you will.
    My first thought was it was a child, but wasn’t sure if it was the camera angle or vertical compression of the footage.

    Not taller than the car and when running looks like their legs are 2' long at best
    Your suggestion probably makes better sense as it better explains the shooter’s awkward run.
    Looks like they are “saggin’”
  • PJPOWER said:
    Am I the only one that thinks it was a little person that shot those cops..really looks like a midget, if you will.
    My first thought was it was a child, but wasn’t sure if it was the camera angle or vertical compression of the footage.

    Not taller than the car and when running looks like their legs are 2' long at best
    Your suggestion probably makes better sense as it better explains the shooter’s awkward run.
    Looks like they are “saggin’”
    Pants look below the buttocks, yes.
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited September 2020
    PJPOWER said:
    Am I the only one that thinks it was a little person that shot those cops..really looks like a midget, if you will.
    My first thought was it was a child, but wasn’t sure if it was the camera angle or vertical compression of the footage.

    Not taller than the car and when running looks like their legs are 2' long at best
    Your suggestion probably makes better sense as it better explains the shooter’s awkward run.
    Looks like they are “saggin’”
    Pants look below the buttocks, yes.
    Preparing for some prison rape.  Hopefully the wish is granted soon.
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • PJPOWER said:
    Am I the only one that thinks it was a little person that shot those cops..really looks like a midget, if you will.
    My first thought was it was a child, but wasn’t sure if it was the camera angle or vertical compression of the footage.

    Not taller than the car and when running looks like their legs are 2' long at best
    Your suggestion probably makes better sense as it better explains the shooter’s awkward run.
    Looks like they are “saggin’”
    Pants look below the buttocks, yes.
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  • Taylors family gets 12 million from the city.

    You think they want this to go away?
    I bet they gladly throw that dirty$$ away if they could have their daughter alive again , I know I would screw the $$$ the cops need to be charged and careers ended today! 
    Taylors family gets 12 million from the city.

    You think they want this to go away?
    You think they’d like to have their daughter/sister back?
    Boy, you two are just 2 peas in a fucking pod...

    You think they (LOUISVILLE) wants this to go away?
    It could have been as easy as using “city” in place of “they.” In which case the answer should have been obvious, of course they do.
    My statement is written poorly and u are 100% correct.
    Yeah I read it as you meaning the family so I agree if you meant the state duh! 
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,503
    PJPOWER said:
    Am I the only one that thinks it was a little person that shot those cops..really looks like a midget, if you will.
    My first thought was it was a child, but wasn’t sure if it was the camera angle or vertical compression of the footage.

    Not taller than the car and when running looks like their legs are 2' long at best
    Your suggestion probably makes better sense as it better explains the shooter’s awkward run.
    Looks like they are “saggin’”
    Pants look below the buttocks, yes.
    PANTS ON THE GROUND
    PANTS ON THE GROUND
    YOU LOOK LIKE A FOO
    WITCH YO PANTS ON THE GROUND
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    Sorry for butting in, I’ve been singing that song all week and I got really excited when I seen it mentioned.

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  • mcgruff10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Am I the only one that thinks it was a little person that shot those cops..really looks like a midget, if you will.
    My first thought was it was a child, but wasn’t sure if it was the camera angle or vertical compression of the footage.

    Not taller than the car and when running looks like their legs are 2' long at best
    Your suggestion probably makes better sense as it better explains the shooter’s awkward run.
    Looks like they are “saggin’”
    Pants look below the buttocks, yes.
    PANTS ON THE GROUND
    PANTS ON THE GROUND
    YOU LOOK LIKE A FOO
    WITCH YO PANTS ON THE GROUND
    Hugh what is that from?!  I can't place it.......was it chappelle?
    some guy who auditioned for american idol back in the day. i hadn't heard about it (never watched that show) until there was this big deal made about brett favre singing it in the packers dressing room prior to the game to pump up the team. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,987
    edited September 2020
    cutz said:
    a child. 
    walking away. 
    unarmed. 
    multiple shots fired. 
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,143
    An unarmed WHITE* 13-year-old autistic boy.  This is a prime example of how we overuse armed cops.  “Maybe just send a social worker.”  Actually, yeah.

    *yeah it matters.  Not sure how.  Maybe it wakes some people up...or maybe it leads them to say “see it’s not race.”
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  • That's just terrible. I can't fathom what threat the officer could claim he saw to justify using his gun. Now we don't know the whole story from this video. But let's say, hypothetically, that the mother said the kid had a knife and that's why she needed help. Well ya still don't have to shoot him. Pepper spray or a taser, both of which can stop someone in their tracks, would work just fine. Just crazy. 
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  • OnWis97 said:
    An unarmed WHITE* 13-year-old autistic boy.  This is a prime example of how we overuse armed cops.  “Maybe just send a social worker.”  Actually, yeah.

    *yeah it matters.  Not sure how.  Maybe it wakes some people up...or maybe it leads them to say “see it’s not race.”
    this is exactly what it will lead them to say. 
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  • Breonna Taylor officers update. only one charged, and it is of a lesser crime. wtf.
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  • wanton endangerment? wtf indeed. that's disgusting. 
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  • wanton endangerment? wtf indeed. that's disgusting. 
    not even charged in her death. $15,000 cash bond. 

    unbelievable.
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,367
    edited September 2020
    I haven't read up on this case too closely, but it always seemed more like bad procedures than murder or manslaughter charges. Wasn't it a no-knock warrant, and the guy inside thought someone was breaking in and fired a gun so the cops returned fire? The warrant was questionable. Seems like a strong case for no-knock warrants, but I can't blame a cop for returning fire. Not surprised there wasn't more charges. Except for maybe the cop that shot from outside the house, but he may have had the lesser charge, not sure what wonton endangerment is.
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,811
    There was no chance of homicide being charged. Wanton endangerment fits the most based on the circumstances. Unfortunately fucking up so bad that you shoot and kill people as a cop rarely will ever be charged as murder unless you can prove intention. These are the rules we've agreed to as a society when we let police officers carry a gun and determine a threat based on perceived actions of another individual, whether armed or not. The only way this will ever end is if gun reform happens and in turn police reform that severely limits the ability to use a firearm. These cops are people and they fuck up as people are prone to do. There's no way to know how most cops will ultimately act when placed in highly intense, emotionally charged situations. It's definitely fight or flight and when you are already armed, it's usually fight. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,987
    edited September 2020
    mace1229 said:
    I haven't read up on this case too closely, but it always seemed more like bad procedures than murder or manslaughter charges. Wasn't it a no-knock warrant, and the guy inside thought someone was breaking in and fired a gun so the cops returned fire? The warrant was questionable. Seems like a strong case for no-knock warrants, but I can't blame a cop for returning fire. Not surprised there wasn't more charges. 
    one of the officers fired 10 times through a patio door that was covered by curtains. he was the one charged with wanton endangerment. 

    the cops are also probably lying. they claim they yelled several times while banging on the door identifying themselves, even though it was a no knock warrant. her neighbour and several witnesses all said there was no yelling by police, only banging and then forced entry and then gunfire. 

    in a country that allows people to stand their ground, no knock warrants should be illegal. it's just encouraging a fatal gun fight. 

    it was bad intel. the guy they suspected of running the drugs hadn't dated her in months. 

    i'm on the fence about this now that i've read more facts about it. you're right in that, if the cops were merely returning fire, they had justification and they were merely following bad instruction/intel. 

    who gets charged? who presented the bad intel to the judge to get the warrant?
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,367
    I would imagine there will be changes that involve restrictions on no knock warrants, and video of all warrants. Really no reason to not have video, if not body cameras you could easily have 1 officer video with a phone, because isn't there some dispute about making an announcement when breaking in?
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