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every time Arrieta touches the brim of his flat brim hat, I want to slap that fucker.If I had known then what I know now...
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Ha, maybe you should have.Cliffy6745 said:The Juggler said:Yeah, gonna go ahead and just disagree here, Cliff.
You sign a 32 year old pitcher who pitched really well in the second half of last season to a team friendly 3 year deal to go from below average to potentially pretty good. Flawed, but they’ve got a chance to be a pretty decent team next year now with a better rotation. Offense was going to score runs regardless.
As I said before, if you’re Harper, you’re not signing with some mid 70 win team. Show him you can contend a bit this year, which I think they can now with Arrieta and Santana, and you are a lot more attractive to him and other FA’s next offseason.
The patience by Kentak here is commendable. Was worried they’d go 4 years. Glad they waited this out.
You mentiond earlier they at least have a chip to move at the deadline. True, but they also have a lot of ammo to be buyers too.
By the way—Congrats on Cuse somehow finding their way into the tourney
Dude, I was gonna give up but Harper understands the fact that if arrieta/Santana take the team from 60 something wins to 70 something wins, they’ll be long Fucking gone before he’s winning anything with them. It’s not complicated. I repeat Harper is not signing with the Phillies because of Jake fucking arrieta. That’s comical.
Even if the philliea sign one of them, it’s because of the contract, not Jake Arrieta. Just stop.
It wouldn’t be because of Arrieta. It would be because he helped shed the perception that the team is still in rebuild mode. Harper and the other top tier ‘19 FA’s are not coming to any team coming off a 70-74ish win season. Thus, yes, bringing in guys like Arrieta and Santana makes them more attractive to those guys next year.
City of Champions, Cliff. Get used to it. We’re gonna be super annoying for a super long ass time.Post edited by The Juggler onwww.myspace.com0 -
Sorry to disappoint.F Me In The Brain said:I want the Phillies to stink, get great seats for less money when they stink.www.myspace.com0 -
But regardless, they are still in a rebuild. They’re not fooling anyoneThe Juggler said:
Ha, maybe you should have.Cliffy6745 said:The Juggler said:Yeah, gonna go ahead and just disagree here, Cliff.
You sign a 32 year old pitcher who pitched really well in the second half of last season to a team friendly 3 year deal to go from below average to potentially pretty good. Flawed, but they’ve got a chance to be a pretty decent team next year now with a better rotation. Offense was going to score runs regardless.
As I said before, if you’re Harper, you’re not signing with some mid 70 win team. Show him you can contend a bit this year, which I think they can now with Arrieta and Santana, and you are a lot more attractive to him and other FA’s next offseason.
The patience by Kentak here is commendable. Was worried they’d go 4 years. Glad they waited this out.
You mentiond earlier they at least have a chip to move at the deadline. True, but they also have a lot of ammo to be buyers too.
By the way—Congrats on Cuse somehow finding their way into the tourney
Dude, I was gonna give up but Harper understands the fact that if arrieta/Santana take the team from 60 something wins to 70 something wins, they’ll be long Fucking gone before he’s winning anything with them. It’s not complicated. I repeat Harper is not signing with the Phillies because of Jake fucking arrieta. That’s comical.
Even if the philliea sign one of them, it’s because of the contract, not Jake Arrieta. Just stop.
It wouldn’t be because of Arrieta. It would be because he helped shed the perception that the team is still in rebuild mode. Harper and the other top tier ‘19 FA’s are not coming to any team coming off a 70-74ish win season. Thus, yes, bringing in guys like Arrieta and Santana makes them more attractive to those guys next year.
City of Champions, Cliff. Get used to it. We’re gonna be super annoying for a super long ass time.
yanks are winning the World Series before the phils, so I’m not worried.
I thought you people would be much worse with the eagles. I dreaded that day or so long and it hasn’t been half bad
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Rebuild’s over. Now, beat it.Cliffy6745 said:
But regardless, they are still in a rebuild. They’re not fooling anyoneThe Juggler said:
Ha, maybe you should have.Cliffy6745 said:The Juggler said:Yeah, gonna go ahead and just disagree here, Cliff.
You sign a 32 year old pitcher who pitched really well in the second half of last season to a team friendly 3 year deal to go from below average to potentially pretty good. Flawed, but they’ve got a chance to be a pretty decent team next year now with a better rotation. Offense was going to score runs regardless.
As I said before, if you’re Harper, you’re not signing with some mid 70 win team. Show him you can contend a bit this year, which I think they can now with Arrieta and Santana, and you are a lot more attractive to him and other FA’s next offseason.
The patience by Kentak here is commendable. Was worried they’d go 4 years. Glad they waited this out.
You mentiond earlier they at least have a chip to move at the deadline. True, but they also have a lot of ammo to be buyers too.
By the way—Congrats on Cuse somehow finding their way into the tourney
Dude, I was gonna give up but Harper understands the fact that if arrieta/Santana take the team from 60 something wins to 70 something wins, they’ll be long Fucking gone before he’s winning anything with them. It’s not complicated. I repeat Harper is not signing with the Phillies because of Jake fucking arrieta. That’s comical.
Even if the philliea sign one of them, it’s because of the contract, not Jake Arrieta. Just stop.
It wouldn’t be because of Arrieta. It would be because he helped shed the perception that the team is still in rebuild mode. Harper and the other top tier ‘19 FA’s are not coming to any team coming off a 70-74ish win season. Thus, yes, bringing in guys like Arrieta and Santana makes them more attractive to those guys next year.
City of Champions, Cliff. Get used to it. We’re gonna be super annoying for a super long ass time.
yanks are winning the World Series before the phils, so I’m not worried.
I thought you people would be much worse with the eagles. I dreaded that day or so long and it hasn’t been half badwww.myspace.com0 -
Hahaha. Philly and NY love.
It's great.The love he receives is the love that is saved0 -
was out when I heard the Phills got him. I was shocked but pretty happy
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Rebuilds over. Ya’ll almost lost 100 games less than 6 months ago. Definitely on the right track, but simmer down nowThe Juggler said:
Rebuild’s over. Now, beat it.Cliffy6745 said:
But regardless, they are still in a rebuild. They’re not fooling anyoneThe Juggler said:
Ha, maybe you should have.Cliffy6745 said:The Juggler said:Yeah, gonna go ahead and just disagree here, Cliff.
You sign a 32 year old pitcher who pitched really well in the second half of last season to a team friendly 3 year deal to go from below average to potentially pretty good. Flawed, but they’ve got a chance to be a pretty decent team next year now with a better rotation. Offense was going to score runs regardless.
As I said before, if you’re Harper, you’re not signing with some mid 70 win team. Show him you can contend a bit this year, which I think they can now with Arrieta and Santana, and you are a lot more attractive to him and other FA’s next offseason.
The patience by Kentak here is commendable. Was worried they’d go 4 years. Glad they waited this out.
You mentiond earlier they at least have a chip to move at the deadline. True, but they also have a lot of ammo to be buyers too.
By the way—Congrats on Cuse somehow finding their way into the tourney
Dude, I was gonna give up but Harper understands the fact that if arrieta/Santana take the team from 60 something wins to 70 something wins, they’ll be long Fucking gone before he’s winning anything with them. It’s not complicated. I repeat Harper is not signing with the Phillies because of Jake fucking arrieta. That’s comical.
Even if the philliea sign one of them, it’s because of the contract, not Jake Arrieta. Just stop.
It wouldn’t be because of Arrieta. It would be because he helped shed the perception that the team is still in rebuild mode. Harper and the other top tier ‘19 FA’s are not coming to any team coming off a 70-74ish win season. Thus, yes, bringing in guys like Arrieta and Santana makes them more attractive to those guys next year.
City of Champions, Cliff. Get used to it. We’re gonna be super annoying for a super long ass time.
yanks are winning the World Series before the phils, so I’m not worried.
I thought you people would be much worse with the eagles. I dreaded that day or so long and it hasn’t been half badPost edited by Cliffy6745 on0 -
Welp....what exactly does last year have to do with this year’s goal? The Sixers won 10 games two years ago and 26 last year.Cliffy6745 said:
Rebuilds over. Ya’ll almost lost 100 games less than 6 months agoThe Juggler said:
Rebuild’s over. Now, beat it.Cliffy6745 said:
But regardless, they are still in a rebuild. They’re not fooling anyoneThe Juggler said:
Ha, maybe you should have.Cliffy6745 said:The Juggler said:Yeah, gonna go ahead and just disagree here, Cliff.
You sign a 32 year old pitcher who pitched really well in the second half of last season to a team friendly 3 year deal to go from below average to potentially pretty good. Flawed, but they’ve got a chance to be a pretty decent team next year now with a better rotation. Offense was going to score runs regardless.
As I said before, if you’re Harper, you’re not signing with some mid 70 win team. Show him you can contend a bit this year, which I think they can now with Arrieta and Santana, and you are a lot more attractive to him and other FA’s next offseason.
The patience by Kentak here is commendable. Was worried they’d go 4 years. Glad they waited this out.
You mentiond earlier they at least have a chip to move at the deadline. True, but they also have a lot of ammo to be buyers too.
By the way—Congrats on Cuse somehow finding their way into the tourney
Dude, I was gonna give up but Harper understands the fact that if arrieta/Santana take the team from 60 something wins to 70 something wins, they’ll be long Fucking gone before he’s winning anything with them. It’s not complicated. I repeat Harper is not signing with the Phillies because of Jake fucking arrieta. That’s comical.
Even if the philliea sign one of them, it’s because of the contract, not Jake Arrieta. Just stop.
It wouldn’t be because of Arrieta. It would be because he helped shed the perception that the team is still in rebuild mode. Harper and the other top tier ‘19 FA’s are not coming to any team coming off a 70-74ish win season. Thus, yes, bringing in guys like Arrieta and Santana makes them more attractive to those guys next year.
City of Champions, Cliff. Get used to it. We’re gonna be super annoying for a super long ass time.
yanks are winning the World Series before the phils, so I’m not worried.
I thought you people would be much worse with the eagles. I dreaded that day or so long and it hasn’t been half bad
By definition, the end of a rebuild is pretty much the point when the team decides they’ve made enough moves and want to be judged by their won/loss record again and not just by player development. That point is now. Sorry, but 80+ wins is not as unrealistic for this team as you probably think. I believe their pecota projection was 78 before the Arrieta signing.
Go. PhilsPost edited by The Juggler onwww.myspace.com0 -
Um, the sixers two best players this year didn’t play last so the point isn’t mildly comparable. The Phillies did not add an embiid and Simmons.The Juggler said:
Welp....what exactly does last year have to do with this year’s goal? The Sixers won 10 games two years ago and 26 last year.Cliffy6745 said:
Rebuilds over. Ya’ll almost lost 100 games less than 6 months agoThe Juggler said:
Rebuild’s over. Now, beat it.Cliffy6745 said:
But regardless, they are still in a rebuild. They’re not fooling anyoneThe Juggler said:
Ha, maybe you should have.Cliffy6745 said:The Juggler said:Yeah, gonna go ahead and just disagree here, Cliff.
You sign a 32 year old pitcher who pitched really well in the second half of last season to a team friendly 3 year deal to go from below average to potentially pretty good. Flawed, but they’ve got a chance to be a pretty decent team next year now with a better rotation. Offense was going to score runs regardless.
As I said before, if you’re Harper, you’re not signing with some mid 70 win team. Show him you can contend a bit this year, which I think they can now with Arrieta and Santana, and you are a lot more attractive to him and other FA’s next offseason.
The patience by Kentak here is commendable. Was worried they’d go 4 years. Glad they waited this out.
You mentiond earlier they at least have a chip to move at the deadline. True, but they also have a lot of ammo to be buyers too.
By the way—Congrats on Cuse somehow finding their way into the tourney
Dude, I was gonna give up but Harper understands the fact that if arrieta/Santana take the team from 60 something wins to 70 something wins, they’ll be long Fucking gone before he’s winning anything with them. It’s not complicated. I repeat Harper is not signing with the Phillies because of Jake fucking arrieta. That’s comical.
Even if the philliea sign one of them, it’s because of the contract, not Jake Arrieta. Just stop.
It wouldn’t be because of Arrieta. It would be because he helped shed the perception that the team is still in rebuild mode. Harper and the other top tier ‘19 FA’s are not coming to any team coming off a 70-74ish win season. Thus, yes, bringing in guys like Arrieta and Santana makes them more attractive to those guys next year.
City of Champions, Cliff. Get used to it. We’re gonna be super annoying for a super long ass time.
yanks are winning the World Series before the phils, so I’m not worried.
I thought you people would be much worse with the eagles. I dreaded that day or so long and it hasn’t been half bad
By definition, the end of a rebuild is pretty much the point when the team decides they’ve made enough moves and want to be judged by their won/loss record again and not just by player development. That point is now. Sorry, but 80+ wins is not as unrealistic for this team as you probably think. I believe their pecota projection was 78 before the Arrieta signing.
Go. Phils
Set high expectations. That’s fine. They’re still rebuilding. Even if they win 80 games, that’s rebuilding as I hope that’s not the ultimate goal.
I like the Phillies and want them to do well. This city is a whole lot more fun when they’re good. They’re gonna have a ton of money, some real nice pieces (one of which they insist on playing out of position for some stupid reason) and should have a bright future. Even if they have made some questionable free agent signings just for the sake of it0 -
Rebuild is over once you sign two of the top-5 free agents on the market. As a fan, for me, expectations have changed. The last few years - since ~'14 I'd say - they've gotten a huge pass, especially once Klentak was hired, but once you do stuff like this you better not be winning 70 games. Finally the fire is at their feet and I'm good with that.
I think once I saw Middleton in Lurie's booth acting like a lunatic during the NFC Championship I figured something would be happening beyond Santana this offseason.0 -
Hang the banner. Order the ringsJearlpam0925 said:Rebuild is over once you sign two of the top-5 free agents on the market. As a fan, for me, expectations have changed. The last few years - since ~'14 I'd say - they've gotten a huge pass, especially once Klentak was hired, but once you do stuff like this you better not be winning 70 games. Finally the fire is at their feet and I'm good with that.
I think once I saw Middleton in Lurie's booth acting like a lunatic during the NFC Championship I figured something would be happening beyond Santana this offseason.0 -
I find the difference in what I hear in my head and what you hear in your head when anything regarding this signing is posted very humorous.Cliffy6745 said:
Hang the banner. Order the ringsJearlpam0925 said:Rebuild is over once you sign two of the top-5 free agents on the market. As a fan, for me, expectations have changed. The last few years - since ~'14 I'd say - they've gotten a huge pass, especially once Klentak was hired, but once you do stuff like this you better not be winning 70 games. Finally the fire is at their feet and I'm good with that.
I think once I saw Middleton in Lurie's booth acting like a lunatic during the NFC Championship I figured something would be happening beyond Santana this offseason.0 -
Listening to WMMR and they just played the new PJ song. Now they're saying it has the same beat as Kokomo, haha.Alright, alright, alright!
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I just want to know when they're gonna get weird again and make something....different. I'd say their last three albums have been pretty much the same. I need a Riot Act/Binaural/No Code.
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If that was the first single off an album, I’d be incredibly disappointed. As a random song, it’s okay. Way better than Ole at least.
Yeah, JP I agree. I think there’s still one great album left in them somewhere. They just need to find it. Certainly a ton of material to work with what the world looks like now. They need to go lock themselves in a cabin the woods for 6 months and see what comes if it.....sadly that kind of thing probably won’t happen with having kids and stuff now.www.myspace.com0 -
I'm not looking for great, just different. And if they kept making something weird every few years I'd be cool with that. Take a page from their boy Neil and try it. Can't be worse than what they're doing now.
The lyrics get to the point, which I'm cool with, but more to dislike than like with this song. At least Bushleaguer felt angry.
And to your point of locking themselves in a cabin - I feel you. Limit an album to ten songs every 5 years? You'd think they could get something better....
But, yeah, you lose a lot of hate and drive - or being driven by being pissed off - when you have kids and you can't deny that you want to give them hope/a better life. Otherwise, what fucking reason are you having kids?
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The other problem is I think they still struggle with remaining relevant to the mainstream. I remember on the LB tour in Philly Ed talking about how cool it was, after 20 years or whatever, to have that album be number 1. Nobody really gives a shit about that stuff now. Like I think they might be afraid of releasing a weird sounding album and having not many people, other than diehards, listen to it.
We've heard weird/cool sounding songs/instrumentals get leaked over the last decade but that sound wasn't really heard on their actual albums. It's there lurking beneath the surface! Explore the studio space god damnit.Post edited by The Juggler onwww.myspace.com0 -
Also, and I know this strikes a nerve with people----but fucking Matt Cameron. He's behind the punk sounding PJ of the 2000's. I get that he's a great drummer, but I also think he's part of what's holding them back from Jack Irons era weirdness. Yeah Binaural and Riot Act were fine albums but I think his presence was felt more after them.www.myspace.com0
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Yeah, I guess, to a point - if I got anything out of that it was that they were appreciative to those buying the music, and they'd be dicks if they didn't acknowledge that. I don't know if they ever made music and we're like "oh, we gotta make this have more pop." Maybe Stone when it comes to the rhythm of a song, and I'm not going to deny they like cashing paychecks. I'm sure I'm wrong though.The Juggler said:The other problem is I think they still struggle with remaining relevant to the mainstream. I remember on the LB tour in Philly Ed talking about how cool it was, after 20 years or whatever, to have that album be number 1. Nobody really gives a shit about that stuff now. Like I think they might be afraid of releasing a weird sounding album and having not many people, other than diehards, listen to it.
But with that said - bathroom songs/skippable tracks of theirs off the top of my head: Sirens; Unthought Known; Ole'. Not many at all for me, but Avocado was the last album in this style of the last three that I'd say is bearable from beginning to end.
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