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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,520
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Harper leads the majors in strikeouts and is batting .222. He's in his prime yet he looks like Ryan Howard circa 2014-2015 at the plate. 
    him and Nola haven't been very good yet they are still solidly in first place.  that's kept some of the pressure off him.  
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,882
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Harper leads the majors in strikeouts and is batting .222. He's in his prime yet he looks like Ryan Howard circa 2014-2015 at the plate. 
    Only recently have I been even remotely concerned, though. Even when he was hitting in the .230's he had an OPS over .900, .950, but now it's definitely showing. But it's May so I won't freak out. Hahaha....THIRTEEN YEARS he has to look forward to this.
    I was worried about the signing from the start because he had a down-year last year....at age 25. Everyone I'd say this to would shoot me down and say he's in the prime of his career and that I shouldn't put too much stock in batting average (.243 last year, 2nd lowest of his career not counting this year) and strikeouts (169 last year, his career high) when he draws so many walks and gets a lot of extra-base hits. Fair enough. But he looks worse this year than last year. It could just be a long slump (hopefully), or maybe he's a guy that shined bright for a few years, and has flamed-out (hopefully not). 


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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 17,038
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Harper leads the majors in strikeouts and is batting .222. He's in his prime yet he looks like Ryan Howard circa 2014-2015 at the plate. 
    Only recently have I been even remotely concerned, though. Even when he was hitting in the .230's he had an OPS over .900, .950, but now it's definitely showing. But it's May so I won't freak out. Hahaha....THIRTEEN YEARS he has to look forward to this.
    I was worried about the signing from the start because he had a down-year last year....at age 25. Everyone I'd say this to would shoot me down and say he's in the prime of his career and that I shouldn't put too much stock in batting average (.243 last year, 2nd lowest of his career not counting this year) and strikeouts (169 last year, his career high) when he draws so many walks and gets a lot of extra-base hits. Fair enough. But he looks worse this year than last year. It could just be a long slump (hopefully), or maybe he's a guy that shined bright for a few years, and has flamed-out (hopefully not). 


    Yeah I don't worry about the correlation from last year to this year, unless he's somehow carrying over the injury from last year which I don't think is the case.  It's a slump. He's never going to hit .300. All I want out of him is to hit in the .260-ish range and give me an OPS that hovers around .900. He's played 40 games as a Philadelphia Phillie.
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,882
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Harper leads the majors in strikeouts and is batting .222. He's in his prime yet he looks like Ryan Howard circa 2014-2015 at the plate. 
    Only recently have I been even remotely concerned, though. Even when he was hitting in the .230's he had an OPS over .900, .950, but now it's definitely showing. But it's May so I won't freak out. Hahaha....THIRTEEN YEARS he has to look forward to this.
    I was worried about the signing from the start because he had a down-year last year....at age 25. Everyone I'd say this to would shoot me down and say he's in the prime of his career and that I shouldn't put too much stock in batting average (.243 last year, 2nd lowest of his career not counting this year) and strikeouts (169 last year, his career high) when he draws so many walks and gets a lot of extra-base hits. Fair enough. But he looks worse this year than last year. It could just be a long slump (hopefully), or maybe he's a guy that shined bright for a few years, and has flamed-out (hopefully not). 


    Yeah I don't worry about the correlation from last year to this year, unless he's somehow carrying over the injury from last year which I don't think is the case.  It's a slump. He's never going to hit .300. All I want out of him is to hit in the .260-ish range and give me an OPS that hovers around .900. He's played 40 games as a Philadelphia Phillie.
    Not sure why you mentioned he's been a Phillie for 40 games. It's not like it's football or basketball where you have to acclimate to an offensive or defensive system. Just go to the plate and hit the ball. And I don't think there's a "correlation" from last year to this year. Rather, I think it's more of a continuation. But I'll defer to everyone that has told me that there is no way that a superstar in his mid-20's can begin going downhill, so I'll just look forward to the end of the slump. 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,888
    Isn't he historically streaky though? This is one super long streak but still. He'll eventually come around.

    I think the fact that they're 8 over even with both him and Nola not being right is a pretty big positive.
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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 17,038
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Harper leads the majors in strikeouts and is batting .222. He's in his prime yet he looks like Ryan Howard circa 2014-2015 at the plate. 
    Only recently have I been even remotely concerned, though. Even when he was hitting in the .230's he had an OPS over .900, .950, but now it's definitely showing. But it's May so I won't freak out. Hahaha....THIRTEEN YEARS he has to look forward to this.
    I was worried about the signing from the start because he had a down-year last year....at age 25. Everyone I'd say this to would shoot me down and say he's in the prime of his career and that I shouldn't put too much stock in batting average (.243 last year, 2nd lowest of his career not counting this year) and strikeouts (169 last year, his career high) when he draws so many walks and gets a lot of extra-base hits. Fair enough. But he looks worse this year than last year. It could just be a long slump (hopefully), or maybe he's a guy that shined bright for a few years, and has flamed-out (hopefully not). 


    Yeah I don't worry about the correlation from last year to this year, unless he's somehow carrying over the injury from last year which I don't think is the case.  It's a slump. He's never going to hit .300. All I want out of him is to hit in the .260-ish range and give me an OPS that hovers around .900. He's played 40 games as a Philadelphia Phillie.
    Not sure why you mentioned he's been a Phillie for 40 games. It's not like it's football or basketball where you have to acclimate to an offensive or defensive system. Just go to the plate and hit the ball. And I don't think there's a "correlation" from last year to this year. Rather, I think it's more of a continuation. But I'll defer to everyone that has told me that there is no way that a superstar in his mid-20's can begin going downhill, so I'll just look forward to the end of the slump. 
    Forget the part where he's a Phillie, emphasis on 40 games. As said above, he's incredibly streaky.

    He's here for 13 years. Oh this is gonna be fun.
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,882
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Harper leads the majors in strikeouts and is batting .222. He's in his prime yet he looks like Ryan Howard circa 2014-2015 at the plate. 
    Only recently have I been even remotely concerned, though. Even when he was hitting in the .230's he had an OPS over .900, .950, but now it's definitely showing. But it's May so I won't freak out. Hahaha....THIRTEEN YEARS he has to look forward to this.
    I was worried about the signing from the start because he had a down-year last year....at age 25. Everyone I'd say this to would shoot me down and say he's in the prime of his career and that I shouldn't put too much stock in batting average (.243 last year, 2nd lowest of his career not counting this year) and strikeouts (169 last year, his career high) when he draws so many walks and gets a lot of extra-base hits. Fair enough. But he looks worse this year than last year. It could just be a long slump (hopefully), or maybe he's a guy that shined bright for a few years, and has flamed-out (hopefully not). 


    Yeah I don't worry about the correlation from last year to this year, unless he's somehow carrying over the injury from last year which I don't think is the case.  It's a slump. He's never going to hit .300. All I want out of him is to hit in the .260-ish range and give me an OPS that hovers around .900. He's played 40 games as a Philadelphia Phillie.
    Not sure why you mentioned he's been a Phillie for 40 games. It's not like it's football or basketball where you have to acclimate to an offensive or defensive system. Just go to the plate and hit the ball. And I don't think there's a "correlation" from last year to this year. Rather, I think it's more of a continuation. But I'll defer to everyone that has told me that there is no way that a superstar in his mid-20's can begin going downhill, so I'll just look forward to the end of the slump. 
    Forget the part where he's a Phillie, emphasis on 40 games. As said above, he's incredibly streaky.

    He's here for 13 years. Oh this is gonna be fun.
    It's such a crazy contract. I'm shocked that so many people didn't even seem to bat an eye at it. 

    He's definitely pressing up there at the plate. He just needs to be patient and get in some more favorable counts. 
    2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2

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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 17,038
    I mean he's not just leading the league in K's, he's also leading the league in BB's. That's pretty much the game today, too - upward launch angle, take pitches. 

    If anything he's probably too patient right now. And the shift doesn't help. Ala Howard, he's another one I look at and wonder with the amount of power he can produce that he can afford to be late in his swing.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,835
    So you got Adam Dunn for 13 years?
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain Posts: 31,242
    Cliffy6745 said:
    So you got Adam Dunn for 13 years?
    Adam Dunn, good for 40 bombs a year.
    Loved "Big Donkey" - he was a classic.  K, BB, or HR.
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,835
    Hell yeah. 
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,520
    man Rodriguez fucked that play up royally last night.  should have been close to a triple play and only got 1 out.   hopefully win today and get out this series 2-2
  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave Posts: 42,011
    not a good series against the brew crew :neutral:
    8/28/98- Camden, NJ
    10/31/09- Philly
    5/21/10- NYC
    9/2/12- Philly, PA
    7/19/13- Wrigley
    10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
    10/21/13- Philly, PA
    10/22/13- Philly, PA
    10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
    4/28/16- Philly, PA
    4/29/16- Philly, PA
    5/1/16- NYC
    5/2/16- NYC
    9/2/18- Boston, MA
    9/4/18- Boston, MA
    9/14/22- Camden, NJ
    9/7/24- Philly, PA
    9/9/24- Philly, PA
    Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
    Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
    RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,835
    Hug your loved ones, fellas. Life is short. The world lost a good one today, not even 40. Cancer is a motherfucker 
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain Posts: 31,242
    Yes it is.  Sorry for the loss.
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,835
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Yes it is.  Sorry for the loss.
    Cheers, sir. Thanks 
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 17,038
    Yeesh, boy....sorry for the loss, dude.
  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave Posts: 42,011
    Cliffy6745 said:
    Hug your loved ones, fellas. Life is short. The world lost a good one today, not even 40. Cancer is a motherfucker 
    sorry man, close friend?
    8/28/98- Camden, NJ
    10/31/09- Philly
    5/21/10- NYC
    9/2/12- Philly, PA
    7/19/13- Wrigley
    10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
    10/21/13- Philly, PA
    10/22/13- Philly, PA
    10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
    4/28/16- Philly, PA
    4/29/16- Philly, PA
    5/1/16- NYC
    5/2/16- NYC
    9/2/18- Boston, MA
    9/4/18- Boston, MA
    9/14/22- Camden, NJ
    9/7/24- Philly, PA
    9/9/24- Philly, PA
    Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
    Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
    RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,888
    Sorry to hear Cliff 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,888
    The Juggler said:
    So here we are on May the 10th. Phils sitting at 21-16 with a healthy 4 game lead (6.5 over Nats).

    Got 17 games in 17 days coming up including two series with the Brew Crew. How many wins are you guys seeing?

    I think I'll be happy with them going 9-8. 
    4-4 thus far 
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  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave Posts: 42,011
    pjhawks said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Harper leads the majors in strikeouts and is batting .222. He's in his prime yet he looks like Ryan Howard circa 2014-2015 at the plate. 
    him and Nola haven't been very good yet they are still solidly in first place.  that's kept some of the pressure off him.  
    Nola looked great today.  Struck out 12 in 6 innings.  Kinda weird that he is 4-0.
    8/28/98- Camden, NJ
    10/31/09- Philly
    5/21/10- NYC
    9/2/12- Philly, PA
    7/19/13- Wrigley
    10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
    10/21/13- Philly, PA
    10/22/13- Philly, PA
    10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
    4/28/16- Philly, PA
    4/29/16- Philly, PA
    5/1/16- NYC
    5/2/16- NYC
    9/2/18- Boston, MA
    9/4/18- Boston, MA
    9/14/22- Camden, NJ
    9/7/24- Philly, PA
    9/9/24- Philly, PA
    Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
    Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
    RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,882
    eeriepadave said:
    pjhawks said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Harper leads the majors in strikeouts and is batting .222. He's in his prime yet he looks like Ryan Howard circa 2014-2015 at the plate. 
    him and Nola haven't been very good yet they are still solidly in first place.  that's kept some of the pressure off him.  
    Nola looked great today.  Struck out 12 in 6 innings.  Kinda weird that he is 4-0.
    Yeah he looked great today. Hopefully he's turned the corner after a rough start. 
    2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2

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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,835
    eeriepadave said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    Hug your loved ones, fellas. Life is short. The world lost a good one today, not even 40. Cancer is a motherfucker 
    sorry man, close friend?
    Not my best friend by any stretch of the imagination, but in my wife and I’s group of friends. I am/was closer with him than a lot of the others though. 

    Thanks, fellas. 
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,888
    Really impressive sweep after that Brewers series. I don't think they've had a losing streak longer than 3 games this year.

    Good sign, gents. Good sign.


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  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave Posts: 42,011
    tough series with the cubs coming up. Hopefully Harper is out of his slump.
    8/28/98- Camden, NJ
    10/31/09- Philly
    5/21/10- NYC
    9/2/12- Philly, PA
    7/19/13- Wrigley
    10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
    10/21/13- Philly, PA
    10/22/13- Philly, PA
    10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
    4/28/16- Philly, PA
    4/29/16- Philly, PA
    5/1/16- NYC
    5/2/16- NYC
    9/2/18- Boston, MA
    9/4/18- Boston, MA
    9/14/22- Camden, NJ
    9/7/24- Philly, PA
    9/9/24- Philly, PA
    Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
    Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
    RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
  • JK_LivinJK_Livin Posts: 7,365
    Tough 2 weeks ahead.
    Alright, alright, alright!
    Tom O.
    "I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
    -The Writer
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,835
    How do you get so lucky to be in a division with possibly the most dysfunctional and under achieving teams ever?!
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,888
    Cliffy6745 said:
    How do you get so lucky to be in a division with possibly the most dysfunctional and under achieving teams ever?!

    Yeah, I thank the good lord that the Eagles are in the NFC East every day. 

    Gettleman for Executive of the Year!
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,835
    The Juggler said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    How do you get so lucky to be in a division with possibly the most dysfunctional and under achieving teams ever?!

    Yeah, I thank the good lord that the Eagles are in the NFC East every day. 

    Gettleman for Executive of the Year!
    Touche.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,888
    Hell of an at bat for JT right there
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