Political Correctness is BS
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BBH, are we talking about peer influence leading people to say things they perhaps hadn't thought out thoroughly for themselves, or down- right lying? I know several die-hard party-line Democrat , quintessentially liberal, politically correct people and they may be guilty of lapsing in their critical thinking (I've done that) but I don't for a second believe they are lying. They can be overly idealistic (I've done that too) and a bit naive (been there as well) but still, I find them to be mostly decent folks. And there are other types out there I'm W-A-A-A-A-Y more concerned about.Big Bank Hank said:
Saying or expressing something that is not what one's feeling or beliefs, but rather what one feels is expected, or looking for acceptance even though in contradicts one's own beliefsGo Beavers said:
I’m a little confused. What do you mean by fake-ness?Big Bank Hank said:
you can be, certainly, anybody can be anything, but that doesn't mean that's the norm, is more and more fake-ness now, than I have ever seen beforemickeyrat said:
you can be respectful of others AND honest at the same time.Big Bank Hank said:
they are not but there are a lot of people being say what they think others want to hear, instead of saying what they feel, and if they are to embarrassed to express themselves honestly, then they should change their way of being (i.e; if your racist, don't be racist) We do have the ability to change our way of living and thinking, instead of not addressing it and saying what they feel is expectedHesCalledDyer said:I'm failing to see the connection where politcal correctness equates to being dishonest, or not being politically correct equates to being honest. These things are not mutually exclusive.
people you describe seem to lack basic decency. and decency is about respwct and honesty.
"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
No I mean people who don't say what they feel because are too worried about what others think, and some people can't live their lives w/o worrying about what others think. We live in a world where if you make a statement, but don't word it properly, you could literally have people piling on and ripping you apart for days, so that can create fear in some people and what they say. But I have fucked up so many times in my life, I am a grizzled veteran at this point, so if I fuck up, I fuck up, but that freedom has also allowed me to be outside the box, and see things and come up with things that others miss. But the life I live is not right for everyone, in fact I don't necessarily recommend it either, but I have tried living my life and being like everyone else and it just never worked for me, it never felt comfortable or right. All the LSD I have done probably has a lot to do with it, once you see the expanded universe, it's hard to pretend it doesn't exist.brianlux said:
BBH, are we talking about peer influence leading people to say things they perhaps hadn't thought out thoroughly for themselves, or down- right lying? I know several die-hard party-line Democrat , quintessentially liberal, politically correct people and they may be guilty of lapsing in their critical thinking (I've done that) but I don't for a second believe they are lying. They can be overly idealistic (I've done that too) and a bit naive (been there as well) but still, I find them to be mostly decent folks. And there are other types out there I'm W-A-A-A-A-Y more concerned about.Big Bank Hank said:
Saying or expressing something that is not what one's feeling or beliefs, but rather what one feels is expected, or looking for acceptance even though in contradicts one's own beliefsGo Beavers said:
I’m a little confused. What do you mean by fake-ness?Big Bank Hank said:
you can be, certainly, anybody can be anything, but that doesn't mean that's the norm, is more and more fake-ness now, than I have ever seen beforemickeyrat said:
you can be respectful of others AND honest at the same time.Big Bank Hank said:
they are not but there are a lot of people being say what they think others want to hear, instead of saying what they feel, and if they are to embarrassed to express themselves honestly, then they should change their way of being (i.e; if your racist, don't be racist) We do have the ability to change our way of living and thinking, instead of not addressing it and saying what they feel is expectedHesCalledDyer said:I'm failing to see the connection where politcal correctness equates to being dishonest, or not being politically correct equates to being honest. These things are not mutually exclusive.
people you describe seem to lack basic decency. and decency is about respwct and honesty.0 -
"have people piling on and ripping you apart for days". Yeah, definitely know that one, BBH.Big Bank Hank said:
No I mean people who don't say what they feel because are too worried about what others think, and some people can't live their lives w/o worrying about what others think. We live in a world where if you make a statement, but don't word it properly, you could literally have people piling on and ripping you apart for days, so that can create fear in some people and what they say. But I have fucked up so many times in my life, I am a grizzled veteran at this point, so if I fuck up, I fuck up, but that freedom has also allowed me to be outside the box, and see things and come up with things that others miss. But the life I live is not right for everyone, in fact I don't necessarily recommend it either, but I have tried living my life and being like everyone else and it just never worked for me, it never felt comfortable or right. All the LSD I have done probably has a lot to do with it, once you see the expanded universe, it's hard to pretend it doesn't exist.brianlux said:
BBH, are we talking about peer influence leading people to say things they perhaps hadn't thought out thoroughly for themselves, or down- right lying? I know several die-hard party-line Democrat , quintessentially liberal, politically correct people and they may be guilty of lapsing in their critical thinking (I've done that) but I don't for a second believe they are lying. They can be overly idealistic (I've done that too) and a bit naive (been there as well) but still, I find them to be mostly decent folks. And there are other types out there I'm W-A-A-A-A-Y more concerned about.Big Bank Hank said:
Saying or expressing something that is not what one's feeling or beliefs, but rather what one feels is expected, or looking for acceptance even though in contradicts one's own beliefsGo Beavers said:
I’m a little confused. What do you mean by fake-ness?Big Bank Hank said:
you can be, certainly, anybody can be anything, but that doesn't mean that's the norm, is more and more fake-ness now, than I have ever seen beforemickeyrat said:
you can be respectful of others AND honest at the same time.Big Bank Hank said:
they are not but there are a lot of people being say what they think others want to hear, instead of saying what they feel, and if they are to embarrassed to express themselves honestly, then they should change their way of being (i.e; if your racist, don't be racist) We do have the ability to change our way of living and thinking, instead of not addressing it and saying what they feel is expectedHesCalledDyer said:I'm failing to see the connection where politcal correctness equates to being dishonest, or not being politically correct equates to being honest. These things are not mutually exclusive.
people you describe seem to lack basic decency. and decency is about respwct and honesty.
You are definitely a one of a kind, Hank. As for "fucking up", that's why Neil Young wrote the song for so many of us!
Why do I- hiiii...
KEEP FUCKING U-U-U-U-U-UUUUUP!?!?
"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
I do agree with fakeness and people say what they are told is exceptable rather than what they feel or think. I mean if you truly believe something you should be free to defend or say it. I think where we are getting mixed up is when people are nasty or rude thats not the same as defending your beliefs i think you can do that in an informative way and we won't all agree but passion and belief is ok with me. We are told now some words and phrases are not p.c some are buzz words of the month and dissappear soon after some we adopt as the nEw words for things we knew previously as something else because suddenly offence is caused where it wasn't before . Thats what i see anyhow. May be different in different cities and situations?
this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -0 -
Yeah, I agree. I think it's better to strife for being forthright and considerate. It's when we feel attacked that it becomes easier to give in to being nasty. If we really are being attacked, maybe nasty is the best response, but I think only as a very last resort. Reasonable discussion makes for more useful dialog.lastexitlondon said:I do agree with fakeness and people say what they are told is exceptable rather than what they feel or think. I mean if you truly believe something you should be free to defend or say it. I think where we are getting mixed up is when people are nasty or rude thats not the same as defending your beliefs i think you can do that in an informative way and we won't all agree but passion and belief is ok with me. We are told now some words and phrases are not p.c some are buzz words of the month and dissappear soon after some we adopt as the nEw words for things we knew previously as something else because suddenly offence is caused where it wasn't before . Thats what i see anyhow. May be different in different cities and situations?
And good point about language changing. When I was a kid you never referred to blacks and use any form of the word "color" but by the 80 and 90's, "people of color" became the norm (which I kind of like). I'm OK with most any word for most anything or anyone as long as the intent is for the good and not said out of ignorance or prejudice. And like you point out, these days the buzz words change fast!
"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
Yes totally a great example there have been many words for coloured people infact so many im not sure what to even type for fear of it being offensive because they don't agree on one word . It can differ between countries and cities.also i was thinking of morning t.v here had a discussion about the biblical term"man" as in god created all men equal.. "mankind"(stone is sexist). I jest.
But they said it should be called something gender neutral. Ok i understand that but words keep being made inappropriate by small groups who just decide on a new word for something .Post edited by lastexitlondon on
this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -0 -
exactlylastexitlondon said:Yes totally a great example there have been many words for coloured people infact so many im not sure what to even type for fear of it being offensive because they don't agree on one word . It can differ between countries and cities.also i was thinking of morning t.v here had a discussion about the biblical term"man" as in god created all men equal.. "mankind"(stone is sexist). I jest.
But they said it should be called something gender neutral. Ok i understand that but words keep being made inappropriate by small groups who just decide on a new word for something .0 -
Thanks, I am by no means perfect, I just try to be as happy and free as I possibly can be, and to live that kind of life it leaves you vulnerable to fucking up, I just try to make sure they are not major fuck upsbrianlux said:
"have people piling on and ripping you apart for days". Yeah, definitely know that one, BBH.Big Bank Hank said:
No I mean people who don't say what they feel because are too worried about what others think, and some people can't live their lives w/o worrying about what others think. We live in a world where if you make a statement, but don't word it properly, you could literally have people piling on and ripping you apart for days, so that can create fear in some people and what they say. But I have fucked up so many times in my life, I am a grizzled veteran at this point, so if I fuck up, I fuck up, but that freedom has also allowed me to be outside the box, and see things and come up with things that others miss. But the life I live is not right for everyone, in fact I don't necessarily recommend it either, but I have tried living my life and being like everyone else and it just never worked for me, it never felt comfortable or right. All the LSD I have done probably has a lot to do with it, once you see the expanded universe, it's hard to pretend it doesn't exist.brianlux said:
BBH, are we talking about peer influence leading people to say things they perhaps hadn't thought out thoroughly for themselves, or down- right lying? I know several die-hard party-line Democrat , quintessentially liberal, politically correct people and they may be guilty of lapsing in their critical thinking (I've done that) but I don't for a second believe they are lying. They can be overly idealistic (I've done that too) and a bit naive (been there as well) but still, I find them to be mostly decent folks. And there are other types out there I'm W-A-A-A-A-Y more concerned about.Big Bank Hank said:
Saying or expressing something that is not what one's feeling or beliefs, but rather what one feels is expected, or looking for acceptance even though in contradicts one's own beliefsGo Beavers said:
I’m a little confused. What do you mean by fake-ness?Big Bank Hank said:
you can be, certainly, anybody can be anything, but that doesn't mean that's the norm, is more and more fake-ness now, than I have ever seen beforemickeyrat said:
you can be respectful of others AND honest at the same time.Big Bank Hank said:
they are not but there are a lot of people being say what they think others want to hear, instead of saying what they feel, and if they are to embarrassed to express themselves honestly, then they should change their way of being (i.e; if your racist, don't be racist) We do have the ability to change our way of living and thinking, instead of not addressing it and saying what they feel is expectedHesCalledDyer said:I'm failing to see the connection where politcal correctness equates to being dishonest, or not being politically correct equates to being honest. These things are not mutually exclusive.
people you describe seem to lack basic decency. and decency is about respwct and honesty.
You are definitely a one of a kind, Hank. As for "fucking up", that's why Neil Young wrote the song for so many of us!
Why do I- hiiii...
KEEP FUCKING U-U-U-U-U-UUUUUP!?!?0 -
unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487I find it incredibly odd that anyone would support this.
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/25/mack-beggs-transgender-wrestler-wins-texas-girls-h/
When I was in HS performance enhancing drugs would get you kicked off the team and suspended.Post edited by unsung on0 -
given HE is a transgender young man who wants to compete with HIS gender, its amazing Texas wont let HIM.unsung said:I find it incredibly odd that anyone would support this.
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/25/mack-beggs-transgender-wrestler-wins-texas-girls-h/
When I was in HS performance enhancing drugs would get you kicked off the team and suspended.
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unsung said:I find it incredibly odd that anyone would support this.
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/25/mack-beggs-transgender-wrestler-wins-texas-girls-h/
When I was in HS performance enhancing drugs would get you kicked off the team and suspended.
I don't.
Over the weekend I got to hear Chris Mosier speak. I enjoyed what he had to say and I have a better understanding of the transgender issue.
His story is exceptional- he transitioned to a male from female and attained success as an athlete on the global scale. Transitioning from male to female is different though (as is this situation where one athlete has the unfair advantage of testosterone injections).
I'm for supporting and assisting people transitioning, but common sense needs to be exercised as we go down this road.
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advantage only because texas doesnt allow HIM to compete with other males.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:unsung said:I find it incredibly odd that anyone would support this.
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/25/mack-beggs-transgender-wrestler-wins-texas-girls-h/
When I was in HS performance enhancing drugs would get you kicked off the team and suspended.
I don't.
Over the weekend I got to hear Chris Mosier speak. I enjoyed what he had to say and I have a better understanding of the transgender issue.
His story is exceptional- he transitioned to a male from female and attained success as an athlete on the global scale. Transitioning from male to female is different though (as is this situation where one athlete has the unfair advantage of testosterone injections).
I'm for supporting and assisting people transitioning, but common sense needs to be exercised as we go down this road.
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '140 -
Well, I suppose if they're going to do that they should go all the way with it:unsung said:I find it incredibly odd that anyone would support this.
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/25/mack-beggs-transgender-wrestler-wins-texas-girls-h/
When I was in HS performance enhancing drugs would get you kicked off the team and suspended.
https://view.yahoo.com/show/saturday-night-live/clip/4973328/weekend-update-all-drug-olympics
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funny that it is the same people complaining that political correctness is bad are also the ones on twitter that are butthurt about corporate entities severing business deals with the nra."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
I never read that. Texas needs some work still.mickeyrat said:
advantage only because texas doesnt allow HIM to compete with other males.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:unsung said:I find it incredibly odd that anyone would support this.
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/25/mack-beggs-transgender-wrestler-wins-texas-girls-h/
When I was in HS performance enhancing drugs would get you kicked off the team and suspended.
I don't.
Over the weekend I got to hear Chris Mosier speak. I enjoyed what he had to say and I have a better understanding of the transgender issue.
His story is exceptional- he transitioned to a male from female and attained success as an athlete on the global scale. Transitioning from male to female is different though (as is this situation where one athlete has the unfair advantage of testosterone injections).
I'm for supporting and assisting people transitioning, but common sense needs to be exercised as we go down this road.
"My brain's a good brain!"0 -
AND in an article I read, before transition, skills were already in effect.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I never read that. Texas needs some work still.mickeyrat said:
advantage only because texas doesnt allow HIM to compete with other males.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:unsung said:I find it incredibly odd that anyone would support this.
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/25/mack-beggs-transgender-wrestler-wins-texas-girls-h/
When I was in HS performance enhancing drugs would get you kicked off the team and suspended.
I don't.
Over the weekend I got to hear Chris Mosier speak. I enjoyed what he had to say and I have a better understanding of the transgender issue.
His story is exceptional- he transitioned to a male from female and attained success as an athlete on the global scale. Transitioning from male to female is different though (as is this situation where one athlete has the unfair advantage of testosterone injections).
I'm for supporting and assisting people transitioning, but common sense needs to be exercised as we go down this road.
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '140 -
unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487That is a female, competing against females, using steroids. Steroids. Congress wasted how much time in investigations on pro sports and ped use?
A little perspective, someone is competing using steroids and people celebrate.
Yep, political correctness run amuck.0 -
How is it that corporations who are not going to support the NRA is PC...if anything it’s a moral decision...but more likely it’s a decision made in hopes of bigger profits.gimmesometruth27 said:funny that it is the same people complaining that political correctness is bad are also the ones on twitter that are butthurt about corporate entities severing business deals with the nra.
im not sure twitter, Facebook etc.. are the places to go to judge the public’s reaction on decisions made by corporations...especially since any individual can create as many accounts as they choose, not to mention the fake accounts.Give Peas A Chance…0 -
prescribed testosterone is not steroids.unsung said:That is a female, competing against females, using steroids. Steroids. Congress wasted how much time in investigations on pro sports and ped use?
A little perspective, someone is competing using steroids and people celebrate.
Yep, political correctness run amuck.
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '140 -
unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487Testosterone is a steroid.0
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