Political Correctness is BS

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  • unsung said:
    I find it incredibly odd that anyone would support this.

    https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/25/mack-beggs-transgender-wrestler-wins-texas-girls-h/

    When I was in HS performance enhancing drugs would get you kicked off the team and suspended.

    I don't.

    Over the weekend I got to hear Chris Mosier speak. I enjoyed what he had to say and I have a better understanding of the transgender issue.

    His story is exceptional- he transitioned to a male from female and attained success as an athlete on the global scale. Transitioning from male to female is different though (as is this situation where one athlete has the unfair advantage of testosterone injections).

    I'm for supporting and assisting people transitioning, but common sense needs to be exercised as we go down this road. 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,350
    unsung said:
    I find it incredibly odd that anyone would support this.

    https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/25/mack-beggs-transgender-wrestler-wins-texas-girls-h/

    When I was in HS performance enhancing drugs would get you kicked off the team and suspended.

    I don't.

    Over the weekend I got to hear Chris Mosier speak. I enjoyed what he had to say and I have a better understanding of the transgender issue.

    His story is exceptional- he transitioned to a male from female and attained success as an athlete on the global scale. Transitioning from male to female is different though (as is this situation where one athlete has the unfair advantage of testosterone injections).

    I'm for supporting and assisting people transitioning, but common sense needs to be exercised as we go down this road. 
    advantage only because texas doesnt allow HIM to compete with other males.
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    unsung said:
    I find it incredibly odd that anyone would support this.

    https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/25/mack-beggs-transgender-wrestler-wins-texas-girls-h/

    When I was in HS performance enhancing drugs would get you kicked off the team and suspended.
    Well, I suppose if they're going to do that they should go all the way with it:
    https://view.yahoo.com/show/saturday-night-live/clip/4973328/weekend-update-all-drug-olympics

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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    funny that it is the same people complaining that political correctness is bad are also the ones on twitter that are butthurt about corporate entities severing business deals with the nra.
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  • mickeyrat said:
    unsung said:
    I find it incredibly odd that anyone would support this.

    https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/25/mack-beggs-transgender-wrestler-wins-texas-girls-h/

    When I was in HS performance enhancing drugs would get you kicked off the team and suspended.

    I don't.

    Over the weekend I got to hear Chris Mosier speak. I enjoyed what he had to say and I have a better understanding of the transgender issue.

    His story is exceptional- he transitioned to a male from female and attained success as an athlete on the global scale. Transitioning from male to female is different though (as is this situation where one athlete has the unfair advantage of testosterone injections).

    I'm for supporting and assisting people transitioning, but common sense needs to be exercised as we go down this road. 
    advantage only because texas doesnt allow HIM to compete with other males.
    I never read that. Texas needs some work still.

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,350
    mickeyrat said:
    unsung said:
    I find it incredibly odd that anyone would support this.

    https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/25/mack-beggs-transgender-wrestler-wins-texas-girls-h/

    When I was in HS performance enhancing drugs would get you kicked off the team and suspended.

    I don't.

    Over the weekend I got to hear Chris Mosier speak. I enjoyed what he had to say and I have a better understanding of the transgender issue.

    His story is exceptional- he transitioned to a male from female and attained success as an athlete on the global scale. Transitioning from male to female is different though (as is this situation where one athlete has the unfair advantage of testosterone injections).

    I'm for supporting and assisting people transitioning, but common sense needs to be exercised as we go down this road. 
    advantage only because texas doesnt allow HIM to compete with other males.
    I never read that. Texas needs some work still.

    AND in an article I read, before transition, skills were already in effect.
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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    That is a female, competing against females, using steroids.  Steroids.  Congress wasted how much time in investigations on pro sports and ped use? 

    A little perspective, someone is competing using steroids and people celebrate.

    Yep, political correctness run amuck. 
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    funny that it is the same people complaining that political correctness is bad are also the ones on twitter that are butthurt about corporate entities severing business deals with the nra.
    How is it that corporations who are not going to support the NRA is PC...if anything it’s a moral decision...but more likely it’s a decision made in hopes of bigger profits.

    im not sure twitter, Facebook etc.. are the places to go to judge the public’s reaction on decisions made by corporations...especially since any individual can create as many accounts as they choose, not to mention the fake accounts.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,350
    unsung said:
    That is a female, competing against females, using steroids.  Steroids.  Congress wasted how much time in investigations on pro sports and ped use? 

    A little perspective, someone is competing using steroids and people celebrate.

    Yep, political correctness run amuck. 
    prescribed testosterone is not steroids.
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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Testosterone is a steroid.
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,822
    Still amazes me that people are so ignorant, hateful, and so scared of Transgender people
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    How does that have anything to do with the issue of PED's?

    Who here has said anything like that? 
  • mickeyrat said:
    unsung said:
    That is a female, competing against females, using steroids.  Steroids.  Congress wasted how much time in investigations on pro sports and ped use? 

    A little perspective, someone is competing using steroids and people celebrate.

    Yep, political correctness run amuck. 
    prescribed testosterone is not steroids.

    There's no question it gives an athlete a competitive advantage.

    These details need to be worked out moving forward as we support transgender people.
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,486
    Back to the original topic.
    You know it is BS when it is considered racist to wear a sombrero and serve Mexican food on a college campus for Cinco de Mayo. 
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,173
    mace1229 said:
    Back to the original topic.
    You know it is BS when it is considered racist to wear a sombrero and serve Mexican food on a college campus for Cinco de Mayo. 
    Would it be racist if I wore a red, white and blue tracksuit, forgot my ability to critically think at home, and wolfed down cheeseburgers while shooting my gun into the air on President's Day?

    If there is no issue with reducing a person to the stereotypes that exist for their cultural upbringing, this should go both directions. 

    From what I can see, people seem to have no problem with political correctness on its own: people seem to have a problem with political correctness when it inhibits their agenda rather than reinforcing it.
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,486
    benjs said:
    mace1229 said:
    Back to the original topic.
    You know it is BS when it is considered racist to wear a sombrero and serve Mexican food on a college campus for Cinco de Mayo. 
    Would it be racist if I wore a red, white and blue tracksuit, forgot my ability to critically think at home, and wolfed down cheeseburgers while shooting my gun into the air on President's Day?

    If there is no issue with reducing a person to the stereotypes that exist for their cultural upbringing, this should go both directions. 

    From what I can see, people seem to have no problem with political correctness on its own: people seem to have a problem with political correctness when it inhibits their agenda rather than reinforcing it.
    Yes, that would be racist and completely different.
    You would be embracing negative and illegal stereotypes.

    How is serving Mexican food on a Mexican holiday racist?
    How is wearing a traditional wear (sombrero) on a Mexican holiday racist? No one implies all Mexicans wear it, but it is a traditional accessories that is still commonly worn. I don't think I've ever seen a mariachi band without a sombrero. 
    It is perfectly acceptable to dress Irish and serve corned beef on St. Patrick's day. How is Cinco de Mayo different?

    Is using chopsticks at a chinese restaurant racist now?
  • Big Bank HankBig Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    benjs said:
    mace1229 said:
    Back to the original topic.
    You know it is BS when it is considered racist to wear a sombrero and serve Mexican food on a college campus for Cinco de Mayo. 
    Would it be racist if I wore a red, white and blue tracksuit, forgot my ability to critically think at home, and wolfed down cheeseburgers while shooting my gun into the air on President's Day?

    If there is no issue with reducing a person to the stereotypes that exist for their cultural upbringing, this should go both directions. 

    From what I can see, people seem to have no problem with political correctness on its own: people seem to have a problem with political correctness when it inhibits their agenda rather than reinforcing it.
    Bingo! People don't have enough confidence in their own beliefs to allow other to have their own, obviously can't allow people going around and harming others, or taking away others freedoms. Beliefs are not actions, I stay away from negative people or dishonest people, well I can't really avoid them at work sometimes
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    mace1229 said:
    benjs said:
    mace1229 said:
    Back to the original topic.
    You know it is BS when it is considered racist to wear a sombrero and serve Mexican food on a college campus for Cinco de Mayo. 
    Would it be racist if I wore a red, white and blue tracksuit, forgot my ability to critically think at home, and wolfed down cheeseburgers while shooting my gun into the air on President's Day?

    If there is no issue with reducing a person to the stereotypes that exist for their cultural upbringing, this should go both directions. 

    From what I can see, people seem to have no problem with political correctness on its own: people seem to have a problem with political correctness when it inhibits their agenda rather than reinforcing it.
    Yes, that would be racist and completely different.
    You would be embracing negative and illegal stereotypes.

    How is serving Mexican food on a Mexican holiday racist?
    How is wearing a traditional wear (sombrero) on a Mexican holiday racist? No one implies all Mexicans wear it, but it is a traditional accessories that is still commonly worn. I don't think I've ever seen a mariachi band without a sombrero. 
    It is perfectly acceptable to dress Irish and serve corned beef on St. Patrick's day. How is Cinco de Mayo different?

    Is using chopsticks at a chinese restaurant racist now?
    Stop with your cultural appropriations. 
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    mace1229 said:
    Back to the original topic.
    You know it is BS when it is considered racist to wear a sombrero and serve Mexican food on a college campus for Cinco de Mayo. 
    Is it wrong to wave the US flag on May 5 in America?
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,486
    I would equate that example to people pushing around lawnmowers for Cinco De Mayo. That would be racist. Not serving Mexican food.
  • Big Bank HankBig Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
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    unsung said:
    mace1229 said:
    Back to the original topic.
    You know it is BS when it is considered racist to wear a sombrero and serve Mexican food on a college campus for Cinco de Mayo. 
    Is it wrong to wave the US flag on May 5 in America?
    No plus I don’t think any Mexican would even care if you did ..
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,314
    mace1229 said:
    Back to the original topic.
    You know it is BS when it is considered racist to wear a sombrero and serve Mexican food on a college campus for Cinco de Mayo. 
    This is called "cultural appropriation" which, by definition, is racist.  One does not need to be "PC" to understand this.
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  • Big Bank HankBig Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    NewJPage said:
    Is he referring to the Khmer Rouge here?
    he's not referring to anyone specifically at all, he's far left, and believes in personal freedoms
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,486
    edited February 2018
    brianlux said:
    mace1229 said:
    Back to the original topic.
    You know it is BS when it is considered racist to wear a sombrero and serve Mexican food on a college campus for Cinco de Mayo. 
    This is called "cultural appropriation" which, by definition, is racist.  One does not need to be "PC" to understand this.
    How so?
    So is it racist to eat corned beef on St. Patrick's Day?
    Is it racist to celebrate the Chinese new year in America?
    If you say yes then we just disagree on completely different levels.

    If those are okay, how is serving Mexican food on Cinco de Mayo any different? People generally aren't mocking Mexicans by doing it.
    Post edited by mace1229 on
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,314
    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    mace1229 said:
    Back to the original topic.
    You know it is BS when it is considered racist to wear a sombrero and serve Mexican food on a college campus for Cinco de Mayo. 
    This is called "cultural appropriation" which, by definition, is racist.  One does not need to be "PC" to understand this.
    How so?
    So is it racist to eat corned beef on St. Patrick's Day?
    Is it racist to celebrate the Chinese new year in America?
    If you say yes then we just disagree on completely different levels.

    If those are okay, how is serving Mexican food on Cinco de Mayo any different? People generally aren't mocking Mexicans by doing it.
    No, those are not examples of cultural appropriation.

    We were talking about someone pretending to look like  Hispanic, not serve food, correct?
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  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,173
    mace1229 said:
    benjs said:
    mace1229 said:
    Back to the original topic.
    You know it is BS when it is considered racist to wear a sombrero and serve Mexican food on a college campus for Cinco de Mayo. 
    Would it be racist if I wore a red, white and blue tracksuit, forgot my ability to critically think at home, and wolfed down cheeseburgers while shooting my gun into the air on President's Day?

    If there is no issue with reducing a person to the stereotypes that exist for their cultural upbringing, this should go both directions. 

    From what I can see, people seem to have no problem with political correctness on its own: people seem to have a problem with political correctness when it inhibits their agenda rather than reinforcing it.
    Yes, that would be racist and completely different.
    You would be embracing negative and illegal stereotypes.

    How is serving Mexican food on a Mexican holiday racist?
    How is wearing a traditional wear (sombrero) on a Mexican holiday racist? No one implies all Mexicans wear it, but it is a traditional accessories that is still commonly worn. I don't think I've ever seen a mariachi band without a sombrero. 
    It is perfectly acceptable to dress Irish and serve corned beef on St. Patrick's day. How is Cinco de Mayo different?

    Is using chopsticks at a chinese restaurant racist now?
    Negative and illegal stereotypes? How so?

    How is wearing a typically patriotic outfit on an American holiday discriminatory? Not all Americans wear it, but many do dress up for the occasion. 
    How is lacking critical thought, modelled after a typical American, discriminatory (and to remind you, you're 14th in reading skills, 25th in math, and 17th in sciences. You can walk north to Canada, where we're 3rd in reading, and 5th in math and sciences)?
    How is eating a cheeseburger discriminatory? By the Center for Investigative Reporting's estimate (via PBS), Americans consume three burgers per week. 
    How is drawing attention to the American gun-lust discriminatory? There have been ongoing polarizing discussions on the topic for at least since the mass shooting epidemics, and the best solution this President has so far has been arming more people to prevent armed homicides (see the 'critical thought' part above). 

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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,486
    edited February 2018
    benjs said:
    mace1229 said:
    benjs said:
    mace1229 said:
    Back to the original topic.
    You know it is BS when it is considered racist to wear a sombrero and serve Mexican food on a college campus for Cinco de Mayo. 
    Would it be racist if I wore a red, white and blue tracksuit, forgot my ability to critically think at home, and wolfed down cheeseburgers while shooting my gun into the air on President's Day?

    If there is no issue with reducing a person to the stereotypes that exist for their cultural upbringing, this should go both directions. 

    From what I can see, people seem to have no problem with political correctness on its own: people seem to have a problem with political correctness when it inhibits their agenda rather than reinforcing it.
    Yes, that would be racist and completely different.
    You would be embracing negative and illegal stereotypes.

    How is serving Mexican food on a Mexican holiday racist?
    How is wearing a traditional wear (sombrero) on a Mexican holiday racist? No one implies all Mexicans wear it, but it is a traditional accessories that is still commonly worn. I don't think I've ever seen a mariachi band without a sombrero. 
    It is perfectly acceptable to dress Irish and serve corned beef on St. Patrick's day. How is Cinco de Mayo different?

    Is using chopsticks at a chinese restaurant racist now?
    Negative and illegal stereotypes? How so?

    How is wearing a typically patriotic outfit on an American holiday discriminatory? Not all Americans wear it, but many do dress up for the occasion. 
    How is lacking critical thought, modelled after a typical American, discriminatory (and to remind you, you're 14th in reading skills, 25th in math, and 17th in sciences. You can walk north to Canada, where we're 3rd in reading, and 5th in math and sciences)?
    How is eating a cheeseburger discriminatory? By the Center for Investigative Reporting's estimate (via PBS), Americans consume three burgers per week. 
    How is drawing attention to the American gun-lust discriminatory? There have been ongoing polarizing discussions on the topic for at least since the mass shooting epidemics, and the best solution this President has so far has been arming more people to prevent armed homicides (see the 'critical thought' part above). 

    Shooting guns in the air is very illegal. Could even result in manslaughter or worse if it kills someone. I have never met a single gun owner who shoots bullets in the air. So yes, someone posing as an American by shooting into the air would be illegal.
    I don’t have a problem if another country wants to serve hamburgers on the 4th of July. Dress as a cowboy and BBQ, wouldn’t insult me in the least. Suggesting they shoot guns in the air and equating that to serving Mexican food in a sombrero was what I didn’t agree with.
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