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  • SmallestOceans
    SmallestOceans Posts: 13,542
    Poncier said:
    SmallestOceans said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    Players are starting to sound off on Bill's power trip (benching Butler). The team was shaken as a result of the decision. The timing of it was just enough for the team to lose at last part of their focus.

    I still sit here puzzled over that move. I haven't seen the official release where it was a confirmed curfew and dope related issue, but even if it was... c'mon, man. Dope? It's legal in any progressive country or state. Late? This isn't high school, Bill.

    If Butler blew an assignment or two during the game- proving the 'breaches' impacted his performance... then sit him down. These are grown men and professionals (most of them anyways).

    * And Bill was nothing in Cleveland. I'll acknowledge him as one of the best coaches of all time, but it's fair to say he's been in good company and been the beneficiary of luck as well as being accomplished.
    Yep, there's a good chance he loses the players in the locker room.

    Not likely.
    Butler is gone obviously, this will be forgotten once OTA's start and it will be business as usual. There'll be plenty of roster turnover and the returning players will have put this all behind them.
    Hopefully.
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  • RiotZact
    RiotZact Posts: 6,293
    With Brady and Big Ben aging, can you imagine how large the gap between the AFC and NFC is going to be in the next couple of years? Let’s see, NFC will have:

    Eagles w/ Wentz back 
    Packers w/ Rodgers back
    Falcons 
    Rams
    9ers w/ Jimmy
    Vikings 
    Panthers 
    Saints

    I don’t think a single person would be amazed if you told them that any of those teams would get 12 wins next season. I honestly think that you could make an argument that any of those teams are better than any one single team in the AFC once you age Tom and Ben another year. 

    So in the AFC we have:

    Patriots if Brady can keep it up
    Steelers if Ben can keep it up 
    Jags if they can get a QB, Cousins is looking like the best case scenario right now

    Does anyone honestly think that any of those 3 teams can beat any of the 8 NFC teams I listed? Hell you could probably even throw the Seachickens in there too. There is going to be NFC teams missing the playoffs that will be better than the AFC champs. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,364
    RiotZact said:
    With Brady and Big Ben aging, can you imagine how large the gap between the AFC and NFC is going to be in the next couple of years? Let’s see, NFC will have:

    Eagles w/ Wentz back 
    Packers w/ Rodgers back
    Falcons 
    Rams
    9ers w/ Jimmy
    Vikings 
    Panthers 
    Saints

    I don’t think a single person would be amazed if you told them that any of those teams would get 12 wins next season. I honestly think that you could make an argument that any of those teams are better than any one single team in the AFC once you age Tom and Ben another year. 

    So in the AFC we have:

    Patriots if Brady can keep it up
    Steelers if Ben can keep it up 
    Jags if they can get a QB, Cousins is looking like the best case scenario right now

    Does anyone honestly think that any of those 3 teams can beat any of the 8 NFC teams I listed? Hell you could probably even throw the Seachickens in there too. There is going to be NFC teams missing the playoffs that will be better than the AFC champs. 
    Yes.

    and you do realize that you’re only one or two injuries from complete ruin for any of those teams listed? And, do the Eagles now have a QB controversy and does it destroy their “dynasty?”
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  • RiotZact
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    RiotZact said:
    With Brady and Big Ben aging, can you imagine how large the gap between the AFC and NFC is going to be in the next couple of years? Let’s see, NFC will have:

    Eagles w/ Wentz back 
    Packers w/ Rodgers back
    Falcons 
    Rams
    9ers w/ Jimmy
    Vikings 
    Panthers 
    Saints

    I don’t think a single person would be amazed if you told them that any of those teams would get 12 wins next season. I honestly think that you could make an argument that any of those teams are better than any one single team in the AFC once you age Tom and Ben another year. 

    So in the AFC we have:

    Patriots if Brady can keep it up
    Steelers if Ben can keep it up 
    Jags if they can get a QB, Cousins is looking like the best case scenario right now

    Does anyone honestly think that any of those 3 teams can beat any of the 8 NFC teams I listed? Hell you could probably even throw the Seachickens in there too. There is going to be NFC teams missing the playoffs that will be better than the AFC champs. 
    Yes.

    and you do realize that you’re only one or two injuries from complete ruin for any of those teams listed? And, do the Eagles now have a QB controversy and does it destroy their “dynasty?”
    Ok, but there’s 8 of them, maybe 9 or 10. Ruin 2 or even 3 of them with QB injuries and you still have an entire playoff picture worth of teams that are better than any AFC team.

    And no, the Eagles have no QB controversy. It always has been, is, and always will be Carson. 
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,315
    edited February 2018
    Colts dodged a bulliit with Josh Mcdaniels.  He fucked the Colts.  World class D bag.  Agreed to a deal and was even hiring a staff then backed out.  He will never coach anywhere outside of New England for the rest of his career 


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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    MayDay10 said:
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    Seeing I don't know much about American football, can someone tell me how the players know which play to make after each down?
    I see the coaches have earphones and a mic. Do they communicate directly to the players when they are on the field, like do the players have earpieces so they can hear? If not, who are the coaches talking to then?
    typically, the offensive coach will call the plays and is mic-ed into the qb's helmet.  the qb communicates to the other players on what the call is.  the qb can also adjust the play when they line up if he sees something in the defense.  the only one who can hear the coaches are the qb and the patriots
    Thank you for explaining!
    "and the patriots"?
    lol, it was just a shot at them.  they have been accused in the past of listening in/cutting communications at their home stadium, etc...  
    Haha. And I read about underinflated footballs. 
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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    HughFreakingDillon said:
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    tbergs said:
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    F Me In The Brain said:
    Pats played well -- heck, both teams were great on offense.  There was almost no defense to speak of.  How many punts?  Is that a record low #?
    True. I think there was only 1 punt and 1 turnover. Very few penalties. One of the cleanest games you could hope for with the huge national audience. The NFL has to be happy with pretty much everything that game offered, including half-time with JT.

    I have to admit that I don't really "get" music like Timberlake's but I don't see what was good about that performance. Just seemed like a bunch of lip-synching (for the most part) and dancing. I also didn't recognize a single song so that didn't help.
    I honestly don't think he lip synced at all. That was him. He's a performer and puts on a good show. Can't say I'm his #1 fan, but I usually like at least a few tracks off of each his albums. I just love his humor. The guy has done some great SNL skits.
    I thought it was pretty obvious he was lip syncing which I think there always is during the SB Halftime show..  Several times where his voice was singing but the mic was no where near his mouth.  The performance as a whole seemed like a jumbled mess.
    Hmm, I'll have to watch it again I guess. I mean, I know the backing music includes most of the song when Pop/Hip-Hop artists perfom live like that, but every time I heard his voice out front on the song it was clearly live. I didn't see him mouthing lyrics he didn't sing.

    Jumbled mess? I am surprised to hear some say that. I was impressed with how well they transitioned to all the different stages and how he was able to be where he needed to be among that crowd of dancers, band players, fans and everything else. I didn't see any major flaws with the choreography or sets. It looked like it would have been hell to plan that and execute it so well, but to each their own. I still love a great straight forward rock concert :) 
    I notices the "fans?" jumping up and down when JT was on the stage.
    Was thinking, are they actual fans, have they been hired to just jump up and down and go crazy so that it looks good on TV?
    Just didn't seem that his songs would make someone jump like they are at a punk rock show.
    I noticed one guy in the "jumping crowd" ended up on stage as a dancer, so yeah, those people were not fans, they were hired dancers. 
    haha. Lame.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,315
    Josh also fucked over assistants who gave their lives away to work with him.  The only piece of shit I can compare him with is Bobby Petrino.  And I think Petrino comes out in spades over this fuck bag. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,364
    RiotZact said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    RiotZact said:
    With Brady and Big Ben aging, can you imagine how large the gap between the AFC and NFC is going to be in the next couple of years? Let’s see, NFC will have:

    Eagles w/ Wentz back 
    Packers w/ Rodgers back
    Falcons 
    Rams
    9ers w/ Jimmy
    Vikings 
    Panthers 
    Saints

    I don’t think a single person would be amazed if you told them that any of those teams would get 12 wins next season. I honestly think that you could make an argument that any of those teams are better than any one single team in the AFC once you age Tom and Ben another year. 

    So in the AFC we have:

    Patriots if Brady can keep it up
    Steelers if Ben can keep it up 
    Jags if they can get a QB, Cousins is looking like the best case scenario right now

    Does anyone honestly think that any of those 3 teams can beat any of the 8 NFC teams I listed? Hell you could probably even throw the Seachickens in there too. There is going to be NFC teams missing the playoffs that will be better than the AFC champs. 
    Yes.

    and you do realize that you’re only one or two injuries from complete ruin for any of those teams listed? And, do the Eagles now have a QB controversy and does it destroy their “dynasty?”
    Ok, but there’s 8 of them, maybe 9 or 10. Ruin 2 or even 3 of them with QB injuries and you still have an entire playoff picture worth of teams that are better than any AFC team.

    And no, the Eagles have no QB controversy. It always has been, is, and always will be Carson. 
    Trade away or bench the SB MVP? I mean he’s gonna wanna play, right?
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    Players are starting to sound off on Bill's power trip (benching Butler). The team was shaken as a result of the decision. The timing of it was just enough for the team to lose at last part of their focus.

    I still sit here puzzled over that move. I haven't seen the official release where it was a confirmed curfew and dope related issue, but even if it was... c'mon, man. Dope? It's legal in any progressive country or state. Late? This isn't high school, Bill.

    If Butler blew an assignment or two during the game- proving the 'breaches' impacted his performance... then sit him down. These are grown men and professionals (most of them anyways).

    * And Bill was nothing in Cleveland. I'll acknowledge him as one of the best coaches of all time, but it's fair to say he's been in good company and been the beneficiary of luck as well as being accomplished.
    and the SB is not the time to make an example or discipline. 
    I’d say it was the perfect time.
  • Indifference71
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    Jason P said:
    Colts dodged a bulliit with Josh Mcdaniels.  He fucked the Colts.  World class D bag.  Agreed to a deal and was even hiring a staff then backed out.  He will never coach anywhere outside of New England for the rest of his career 


    I was shocked that McDaniels wanted to go work for that creep Irsay.  But I do agree that it's a pretty shitty move to change your mind at the last minute here after assistants are already being hired.  But at the same time, why the hell are the Colts making announcements and scheduling press conferences before the guy has actually signed a contract????
  • RiotZact
    RiotZact Posts: 6,293
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    RiotZact said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    RiotZact said:
    With Brady and Big Ben aging, can you imagine how large the gap between the AFC and NFC is going to be in the next couple of years? Let’s see, NFC will have:

    Eagles w/ Wentz back 
    Packers w/ Rodgers back
    Falcons 
    Rams
    9ers w/ Jimmy
    Vikings 
    Panthers 
    Saints

    I don’t think a single person would be amazed if you told them that any of those teams would get 12 wins next season. I honestly think that you could make an argument that any of those teams are better than any one single team in the AFC once you age Tom and Ben another year. 

    So in the AFC we have:

    Patriots if Brady can keep it up
    Steelers if Ben can keep it up 
    Jags if they can get a QB, Cousins is looking like the best case scenario right now

    Does anyone honestly think that any of those 3 teams can beat any of the 8 NFC teams I listed? Hell you could probably even throw the Seachickens in there too. There is going to be NFC teams missing the playoffs that will be better than the AFC champs. 
    Yes.

    and you do realize that you’re only one or two injuries from complete ruin for any of those teams listed? And, do the Eagles now have a QB controversy and does it destroy their “dynasty?”
    Ok, but there’s 8 of them, maybe 9 or 10. Ruin 2 or even 3 of them with QB injuries and you still have an entire playoff picture worth of teams that are better than any AFC team.

    And no, the Eagles have no QB controversy. It always has been, is, and always will be Carson. 
    Trade away or bench the SB MVP? I mean he’s gonna wanna play, right?
    Is there a player in the NFL that doesn’t want to play? Football is business, Carson Wentz is the Eagles starting QB when he is healthy, it’s not even a question. What they do with Foles outside of that remains to be seen, but there is zero controversy over who is the starter. 
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  • Gary Carter
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    Jason P said:
    Colts dodged a bulliit with Josh Mcdaniels.  He fucked the Colts.  World class D bag.  Agreed to a deal and was even hiring a staff then backed out.  He will never coach anywhere outside of New England for the rest of his career 


    Look at who he works for, the ultimate d bag. Wonder if visor backed out like hoodie did to the jets? 
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  • dankind
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    Damn!!! I hope for Niners fans that Jimmy G does indeed wind up being the messiah. 
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    dankind said:
    Damn!!! I hope for Niners fans that Jimmy G does indeed wind up being the messiah. 
    Apparently they're looking at Jarvis Landry from the Dolphins and a few draft predictions have them picking up Barkley.  I'd definitely be happy with both.
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    Niners draft 9th?

    no way Barkley lasts that long
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  • F Me In The Brain
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    edited February 2018
    I dont know if Landry fits from a 'citizen' perspective.  Can't you see Pierre Garcon (he is there for one more year, right?) beating the hell out of Jarvis the first time he throws his tantrum?  Garcon = ultimate teammate.  Landry = ultimate bitch of a teammate

    Dude can ball, no doubt about that.

    Barkley would be awesome.  I think they need to get a few OL, a few DBs and perhaps spend on a premier defensive end/pass rusher to teach all of their young DL how it is done.  RB would be awesome but I think the coach is good enough to make the WRs and HBs pretty good.  If we can build that D and OL back up?  Oh baby.  So much room on the cap to go hunting with that and those draft picks.

    Barkley is likely aiming too high, though. 
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