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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,410
    unsung said:
    tbergs said:
    uh Oh!    Bonuses and wage raises being announced by companies based on anticipated savings.   Were Trump and Ryan right?  It’s a conspiracy!

    i think the Dems’ boat is starting to leak.

    Yeah! Let's make it even better by tossing another trillion at the national debt. That'll show those snowflakes.
    So the ten trillion added from 2009-2017 bothered you too? Can you link me to the thread that showed your disgust?
    Nice to see you taking a break from researching your rebuttal of what great things children were experiencing in 1913.

    And to your question, I wasn't on here until the middle of last year so there's nothing to link. I don't give a shit which party is increasing debt in the attempt to sell its bullshit line, but it's quite hypocritical that an R can still try to claim fiscal responsibility after this and what it means down the road. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    uh Oh!    Bonuses and wage raises being announced by companies based on anticipated savings.   Were Trump and Ryan right?  It’s a conspiracy!

    i think the Dems’ boat is starting to leak.

    Congratulations, you are gullible!
    Are you in the market to buy a bridge?

    That's all PR baloney.  The perfect example is AT&T, which is giving bonuses as a concession in their union contract negotiations, same as always, except that now they have identified a huge population demographic that will believe anything a rich person tells them.

    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    uh Oh!    Bonuses and wage raises being announced by companies based on anticipated savings.   Were Trump and Ryan right?  It’s a conspiracy!

    i think the Dems’ boat is starting to leak.

    Bonuses are a ruse.  I'll explain if you don't follow that.  Now raises above 2.5% targets can be meaningful.  Which companies have announced raises?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    rgambs said:
    uh Oh!    Bonuses and wage raises being announced by companies based on anticipated savings.   Were Trump and Ryan right?  It’s a conspiracy!

    i think the Dems’ boat is starting to leak.

    Congratulations, you are gullible!
    Are you in the market to buy a bridge?

    That's all PR baloney.  The perfect example is AT&T, which is giving bonuses as a concession in their union contract negotiations, same as always, except that now they have identified a huge population demographic that will believe anything a rich person tells them.

    Average salary of at&t employee is 80k. I estimated 51k yesterday but then saw some data.  So they handed out loud less than 1.5% bonus,  one time,  after getting a 40% long term tax cut. 
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,561
    mrussel1 said:
    uh Oh!    Bonuses and wage raises being announced by companies based on anticipated savings.   Were Trump and Ryan right?  It’s a conspiracy!

    i think the Dems’ boat is starting to leak.

    Bonuses are a ruse.  I'll explain if you don't follow that.  Now raises above 2.5% targets can be meaningful.  Which companies have announced raises?
    I read an article referencing three companies.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,561
    tbergs said:
    uh Oh!    Bonuses and wage raises being announced by companies based on anticipated savings.   Were Trump and Ryan right?  It’s a conspiracy!

    i think the Dems’ boat is starting to leak.

    Yeah! Let's make it even better by tossing another trillion at the national debt. That'll show those snowflakes.
    Let’s see if you guys can follow along.  What do you think is coming next year?  Guaranteed not to fill gap, but still. This is step 1in a 2 step process.  

    A recession? Or the kick in the nads for the poor?
  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    edited December 2017
    tbergs said:
    uh Oh!    Bonuses and wage raises being announced by companies based on anticipated savings.   Were Trump and Ryan right?  It’s a conspiracy!

    i think the Dems’ boat is starting to leak.

    Yeah! Let's make it even better by tossing another trillion at the national debt. That'll show those snowflakes.
    Let’s see if you guys can follow along.  What do you think is coming next year?  Guaranteed not to fill gap, but still. This is step 1in a 2 step process.  

    A recession? Or the kick in the nads for the poor?
    I will assume your interpretation will be the latter.   It’s always easier to give shit away. Spending like a drunken college kid is easy.  

    Btw, I think it’s funny everyone is focusing on all the money the rich are “making” off the tax changes (which, of course they are.  They pay 3/4ths of the taxes, so it’s almost impossible to make a change without positively impacting them.  You can’t give a tax break to someone who pays 0 which is basically half the population.). They have already made far more off the Trump rally in the market.  
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    unsung said:
    tbergs said:
    uh Oh!    Bonuses and wage raises being announced by companies based on anticipated savings.   Were Trump and Ryan right?  It’s a conspiracy!

    i think the Dems’ boat is starting to leak.

    Yeah! Let's make it even better by tossing another trillion at the national debt. That'll show those snowflakes.
    So the ten trillion added from 2009-2017 bothered you too? Can you link me to the thread that showed your disgust?
    Can you show me that link providing info on how kids were better off pre 1913?

    I'm waiting eagerly. 

    Image result for still waiting meme
  • unsung said:
    tbergs said:
    uh Oh!    Bonuses and wage raises being announced by companies based on anticipated savings.   Were Trump and Ryan right?  It’s a conspiracy!

    i think the Dems’ boat is starting to leak.

    Yeah! Let's make it even better by tossing another trillion at the national debt. That'll show those snowflakes.
    So the ten trillion added from 2009-2017 bothered you too? Can you link me to the thread that showed your disgust?
    Randy Paul and his technicolor spin machine.

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/apr/09/rand-paul/rand-paul-debt-has-tripled-bush-took-office/

    Why no mention of the years 2001-2009, Unsung? Oh yea, that President was white.
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Unsung getting totally owned... again... lol

    Well done Mrussel1, well done 
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,837
    This tax plan was always about the corporate rate 1st and foremost.  And that's not really a bad thing at all.  I'm just pissed it was rushed as I was hoping for actual tax reform....making everything easier...and a tax plan that didn't add so much to the deficit.  

    I'm a big fan of keeping the $ I make and believe there are too many people paying for too many others that aren't.  But I'm confused about how you can pass a tax plan that adds so much $ to the debt...makes no sense to me.  Not in this economy.
    Is it a problem for you that a lot of people are paying more in taxes than you are?
    A higher %....yeah it does actually.  But there are far more paying less than are paying more.  But not really sure where this question is coming from.
    Do you think people earning lesss than you should pay more in taxes?
    I think they should pay roughly the same % in income taxes and let consumption taxes have those spending paying more.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,128
    unsung said:
    tbergs said:
    uh Oh!    Bonuses and wage raises being announced by companies based on anticipated savings.   Were Trump and Ryan right?  It’s a conspiracy!

    i think the Dems’ boat is starting to leak.

    Yeah! Let's make it even better by tossing another trillion at the national debt. That'll show those snowflakes.
    So the ten trillion added from 2009-2017 bothered you too? Can you link me to the thread that showed your disgust?
    so Ron Paul would be on board with this, eh?

    otherwise your comment and your avatar mean nothing.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    edited December 2017
    Don't forget, cutting taxes is now racist to the left.

  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    unsung said:
    tbergs said:
    uh Oh!    Bonuses and wage raises being announced by companies based on anticipated savings.   Were Trump and Ryan right?  It’s a conspiracy!

    i think the Dems’ boat is starting to leak.

    Yeah! Let's make it even better by tossing another trillion at the national debt. That'll show those snowflakes.
    So the ten trillion added from 2009-2017 bothered you too? Can you link me to the thread that showed your disgust?
    so Ron Paul would be on board with this, eh?

    otherwise your comment and your avatar mean nothing.
    Not sure.  Ask him.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    my2hands said:
    Unsung getting totally owned... again... lol

    Well done Mrussel1, well done 
    You or anyone else on this forum will never own me. Not mentally, nor ever physically.

     I'll address the comments when I am not traveling and driving.   In the meantime go find another Russia story to consume your life.  
  • unsung said:
    my2hands said:
    Unsung getting totally owned... again... lol

    Well done Mrussel1, well done 
    You or anyone else on this forum will never own me. Not mentally, nor ever physically.

     I'll address the comments when I am not traveling and driving.   In the meantime go find another Russia story to consume your life.  
    “Nor ever physically.” LOL. Well, we can’t mentally, the aliens already do. Or is it Alex? Maybe Savage? Like I’ve said, what a joke. “Physically.” Go back to allowing elimination of the white race to consume your life as it’s evident it’s well on its way.
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    I'm flattered Unsung, but im not interested in you physically, sorry. 

    But I do love watching your simplistic and naive worldviews/ideas get shredded like lettuce by posters on here regularly. The sad thing is you never seem to take anything away from your discussions here

    Now feel free to go get physical with someone lol
  • my2hands said:
    I'm flattered Unsung, but im not interested in you physically, sorry. 

    But I do love watching your simplistic and naive worldviews/ideas get shredded like lettuce by posters on here regularly. The sad thing is you never seem to take anything away from your discussions here

    Now feel free to go get physical with someone lol
    Channeling Donna Summer’s Lets Get Physical.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    my2hands said:
    I'm flattered Unsung, but im not interested in you physically, sorry. 

    But I do love watching your simplistic and naive worldviews/ideas get shredded like lettuce by posters on here regularly. The sad thing is you never seem to take anything away from your discussions here

    Now feel free to go get physical with someone lol
    Channeling Donna Summer’s Lets Get Physical.
    I thought of that too, but thought that was a Olivia Newton John song
  • mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    I'm flattered Unsung, but im not interested in you physically, sorry. 

    But I do love watching your simplistic and naive worldviews/ideas get shredded like lettuce by posters on here regularly. The sad thing is you never seem to take anything away from your discussions here

    Now feel free to go get physical with someone lol
    Channeling Donna Summer’s Lets Get Physical.
    I thought of that too, but thought that was a Olivia Newton John song
    Perhaps it is. I’m not up on 70s & 80s pop music.
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