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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 17,419
    I just find it odd that the government promotes and encourages the dumbest form of gambling known to man as easy as a trip to get a Big Gulp at the Kwik-E-Mart, while if I want to bet the over in the Ohio State game I need to set up a dummy offshore account and pray the feds don't freeze it.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 10,940
    Jason P said:
    I just find it odd that the government promotes and encourages the dumbest form of gambling known to man as easy as a trip to get a Big Gulp at the Kwik-E-Mart, while if I want to bet the over in the Ohio State game I need to set up a dummy offshore account and pray the feds don't freeze it.
    In many states,  it's a straight up income redistribution from poor to the middle class.  For example in Georgia,  lottery proceeds allow middle and lower class students go to college almost free.  Yet,  most lottery purchasers are poor and students are middle and upper class... income redistribution up. 
  • Jason P said:
    I just find it odd that the government promotes and encourages the dumbest form of gambling known to man as easy as a trip to get a Big Gulp at the Kwik-E-Mart, while if I want to bet the over in the Ohio State game I need to set up a dummy offshore account and pray the feds don't freeze it.
    Get crypto yo and bet with the bookieeeeeeeeee, yo.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 17,419
    No winners!  Except the government and your local metal recycle yards!  Couch cushions will be pilfered.  Ashtrays emptied!  Bank accounts drained!  For the dream

    at LEAST this will fix all the schools and roads!
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 16,500
    I did not win a billion dollars lol
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,485
    me neither, govt will have to wait a few more days to get their extortion payment.
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,485
    mrussel1 said:
    Jason P said:
    I just find it odd that the government promotes and encourages the dumbest form of gambling known to man as easy as a trip to get a Big Gulp at the Kwik-E-Mart, while if I want to bet the over in the Ohio State game I need to set up a dummy offshore account and pray the feds don't freeze it.
    In many states,  it's a straight up income redistribution from poor to the middle class.  For example in Georgia,  lottery proceeds allow middle and lower class students go to college almost free.  Yet,  most lottery purchasers are poor and students are middle and upper class... income redistribution up. 
    People that make poor financial choices are doomed to repeat them.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 17,419
    The state university I went to has had in-state tuition go from $5K to over $20K in the last 20 years.  That's almost free!  Long live the lotto
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,485
    There is no reason to keep costs in check when the taxpayers back the loans.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 18,902
    edited October 2018
    unsung said:

    Comrade? Guccifer is that you? Welcome back!
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 9,492
    unsung said:

    “You live in a society and benefit from roads, schools, the fire department, the recreation centre with swimming pools and gyms and classes, the paramedics, the police department, and even the dog catcher. Maybe even the military, which some people are pretty fond of.  When you get older you’ll get an old age pension. And guess what? Someone has to pay for all of that, and because you’re an adult, you understand that means you pay your share.”

    See how it works?
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • unsung said:

    “You live in a society and benefit from roads, schools, the fire department, the recreation centre with swimming pools and gyms and classes, the paramedics, the police department, and even the dog catcher. Maybe even the military, which some people are pretty fond of.  When you get older you’ll get an old age pension. And guess what? Someone has to pay for all of that, and because you’re an adult, you understand that means you pay your share.”

    See how it works?
    “He didn’t build that.”
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 8,293
    unsung said:

    “You live in a society and benefit from roads, schools, the fire department, the recreation centre with swimming pools and gyms and classes, the paramedics, the police department, and even the dog catcher. Maybe even the military, which some people are pretty fond of.  When you get older you’ll get an old age pension. And guess what? Someone has to pay for all of that, and because you’re an adult, you understand that means you pay your share.”

    See how it works?
    exactly....Jesus Christ I can't believe some people are even able to leave their house
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,485
    unsung said:

    “You live in a society and benefit from roads, schools, the fire department, the recreation centre with swimming pools and gyms and classes, the paramedics, the police department, and even the dog catcher. Maybe even the military, which some people are pretty fond of.  When you get older you’ll get an old age pension. And guess what? Someone has to pay for all of that, and because you’re an adult, you understand that means you pay your share.”

    See how it works?
    An old age pension, funny stuff, it doesn't get much better.


  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 9,492
    unsung said:
    unsung said:

    “You live in a society and benefit from roads, schools, the fire department, the recreation centre with swimming pools and gyms and classes, the paramedics, the police department, and even the dog catcher. Maybe even the military, which some people are pretty fond of.  When you get older you’ll get an old age pension. And guess what? Someone has to pay for all of that, and because you’re an adult, you understand that means you pay your share.”

    See how it works?
    An old age pension, funny stuff, it doesn't get much better.



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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 10,940
    unsung said:
    unsung said:

    “You live in a society and benefit from roads, schools, the fire department, the recreation centre with swimming pools and gyms and classes, the paramedics, the police department, and even the dog catcher. Maybe even the military, which some people are pretty fond of.  When you get older you’ll get an old age pension. And guess what? Someone has to pay for all of that, and because you’re an adult, you understand that means you pay your share.”

    See how it works?
    An old age pension, funny stuff, it doesn't get much better.


    So retired military doesn't get a pension? Try again.   
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,485
    I’m not retired military.  Try again.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 10,940
    unsung said:
    I’m not retired military.  Try again.
    So if the tax doesn't benefit you directly,  you shouldn't have to pay? As an example,  only retired military should pay for their retirement?  Only people that have called the police should pay for the police?
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,485
    Does the military or police pay for my retirement?
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 11,285

    I'll gladly pay property taxes to fund schools if it keeps those pesky kids in school and off my lawn!




    Get off my damn lawn!

  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,485
    I fail to see why their retirements need to be funded by the taxpayers, they did those jobs and received pay and benefits for doing them.  
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 10,940
    unsung said:
    Does the military or police pay for my retirement?
    How do you expect the police's or military's salary (not retirement) to be paid without taxes? 
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,485
    The question was on retirement, no?
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 11,285
    unsung said:
    The question was on retirement, no?
    I think benefits for government employees should be consistent with the average benefits with private companies.  Government needs to compete for talent like everyone else.  Pensions are going away for private companies because in the end they'll crush your business if times ever get bad and are replaced with matching 401k/profit sharing contributions.  I'm all for freezing the pension plans and converting to defined contribution plans for government workers. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 10,940
    unsung said:
    The question was on retirement, no?
    No, Often Reading brought up many ways where we all benefit from taxes: schools,  roads,  defense,  fire,  etc.  You chose to focus on military benefits because you didn't serve.  So what about the rest?  I mean obviously you're living in a cabin in Montana,  home schooling your kids and driving your ATV to pick up your food source out in your fields.  But what about the rest of the 299.999 million of us?
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 18,111
    mrussel1 said:
    unsung said:
    The question was on retirement, no?
    No, Often Reading brought up many ways where we all benefit from taxes: schools,  roads,  defense,  fire,  etc.  You chose to focus on military benefits because you didn't serve.  So what about the rest?  I mean obviously you're living in a cabin in Montana,  home schooling your kids and driving your ATV to pick up your food source out in your fields.  But what about the rest of the 299.999 million of us?
    Based on his post you don’t feel we are overtaxed?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,485
    mrussel1 said:
    unsung said:
    unsung said:

    “You live in a society and benefit from roads, schools, the fire department, the recreation centre with swimming pools and gyms and classes, the paramedics, the police department, and even the dog catcher. Maybe even the military, which some people are pretty fond of.  When you get older you’ll get an old age pension. And guess what? Someone has to pay for all of that, and because you’re an adult, you understand that means you pay your share.”

    See how it works?
    An old age pension, funny stuff, it doesn't get much better.


    So retired military doesn't get a pension? Try again.   
    I guess this was my imagination that this was asked.
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,485
    mrussel1 said:
    unsung said:
    The question was on retirement, no?
    No, Often Reading brought up many ways where we all benefit from taxes: schools,  roads,  defense,  fire,  etc.  You chose to focus on military benefits because you didn't serve.  So what about the rest?  I mean obviously you're living in a cabin in Montana,  home schooling your kids and driving your ATV to pick up your food source out in your fields.  But what about the rest of the 299.999 million of us?
    You are not my responsibility, just like I am not yours.  
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 10,940
    unsung said:
    mrussel1 said:
    unsung said:
    The question was on retirement, no?
    No, Often Reading brought up many ways where we all benefit from taxes: schools,  roads,  defense,  fire,  etc.  You chose to focus on military benefits because you didn't serve.  So what about the rest?  I mean obviously you're living in a cabin in Montana,  home schooling your kids and driving your ATV to pick up your food source out in your fields.  But what about the rest of the 299.999 million of us?
    You are not my responsibility, just like I am not yours.  
    Because the individualistic society was so effective in ancient times through the middle ages.  Read a book. Learn from the past. 
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