You weren’t born with them. You were born in a location where these rights were put into place by people and then maintained and enforced by people.
No, you are wrong. Everyone is born with their rights, only their governments take them away. Government doesn't grant Rights, government allows privileges.
If you were born on a random island you do whatever you want, until someone says that you can't.
You weren’t born with them. You were born in a location where these rights were put into place by people and then maintained and enforced by people.
No, you are wrong. Everyone is born with their rights, only their governments take them away. Government doesn't grant Rights, government allows privileges.
If you were born on a random island you do whatever you want, until someone says that you can't.
No, people try to take each other's "rights" away, government is the only thing that protects you. You say I have no right to your labor, what if I say, "too bad, I'm taking your shit"? Do you think your guns protect you? That's childishly laughable.
I don't understand how you can fail to see how soundly your clever catch phrases get destroyed when faced with reality.
I am so glad the Founding Fathers didn't think this way.
Wow, just wow. Smh.
The same founding fathers (i.e. government) that outlined and establshed rights and how the government would maintain and protect them?
The same one that shot the British who also thought they gave you your Rights.
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You weren’t born with them. You were born in a location where these rights were put into place by people and then maintained and enforced by people.
No, you are wrong. Everyone is born with their rights, only their governments take them away. Government doesn't grant Rights, government allows privileges.
If you were born on a random island you do whatever you want, until someone says that you can't.
You weren’t born with them. You were born in a location where these rights were put into place by people and then maintained and enforced by people.
No, you are wrong. Everyone is born with their rights, only their governments take them away. Government doesn't grant Rights, government allows privileges.
If you were born on a random island you do whatever you want, until someone says that you can't.
No, people try to take each other's "rights" away, government is the only thing that protects you. You say I have no right to your labor, what if I say, "too bad, I'm taking your shit"? Do you think your guns protect you? That's childishly laughable.
I don't understand how you can fail to see how soundly your clever catch phrases get destroyed when faced with reality.
I am so glad the Founding Fathers didn't think this way.
Wow, just wow. Smh.
The same founding fathers (i.e. government) that outlined and establshed rights and how the government would maintain and protect them?
The same one that shot the British who also thought they gave you your Rights.
And we circle back to the inevitable Libertarian ideological pick and choose. The Constitution isn’t a blank sheet of paper.
Got any examples of laissez faire capitalism working perfectly in a society? Because I'm sure we can all think of lots of examples where lack of regulation went horribly wrong.
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Got any examples of laissez faire capitalism working perfectly in a society? Because I'm sure we can all think of lots of examples where lack of regulation went horribly wrong.
First one that comes to mind:
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Why is it that leftists think they still own the production of others?
There is no utility to your labor, if it weren't for the societal structure that surrounds you.
Without society, your labor carries no value.
If there wasn't a societal structure to assign value to your labor, you and whatever it is that you produce are worthless.
So society should determine labor value? Sounds rather Libertarian, LOL. Muh free markets!
Glad you finally agree. Free markets should determine labor value, not government.
Still waiting...
Still waiting.
Waiting for what?
unsung is waiting for his poly-sci / econ 101 tutorial
libertarian philosophy has left him with an overly simplistic utopian view of the world and he needs help understanding the complex socio-economic nuances of reality
Why is it that leftists think they still own the production of others?
There is no utility to your labor, if it weren't for the societal structure that surrounds you.
Without society, your labor carries no value.
If there wasn't a societal structure to assign value to your labor, you and whatever it is that you produce are worthless.
So society should determine labor value? Sounds rather Libertarian, LOL. Muh free markets!
Glad you finally agree. Free markets should determine labor value, not government.
Still waiting...
Still waiting.
Waiting for what?
unsung is waiting for his poly-sci / econ 101 tutorial
libertarian philosophy has left him with an overly simplistic utopian view of the world and he needs help understanding the complex socio-economic nuances of reality
It would be fantastic if one, pure economic philosophy could work, but what any cursory review of history shows is that pure ideology is folly. Communism, socialism, fascism, feudalism, pure capitalism; they have all failed the people.
Well it was tried in the market, without regulation, in the early 20th century. It failed miserably. All of these theories fail to account for the folly and corruption of humans.
Well it was tried in the market, without regulation, in the early 20th century. It failed miserably. All of these theories fail to account for the folly and corruption of humans.
Can't wait for all of the Cletuses to fuck this up or not even be aware of it and end up having to file revised statements, get audited or end up paying fines and back taxes because, golly gee, look at my paycheck, its bigly! Something tells me this is by Team Trump Treason's design in a revenue grab of smoke and mirrors.
In the rush for Americans to see bigger paychecks, the Treasury Department is asking companies to rely on outdated forms to determine withholdings. That could put millions of workers at risk of overpaying or underpaying their taxes unless they double-check their paychecks using a new Internal Revenue Service tool.
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I asked a question.
You can't define it?
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
You think the 'free market' (complete deregulation) would treat the labor pool with decency and respect?
There is significant history that speaks to the contrary. There are areas on the earth that speak to the contrary.
You are asking for a major step backwards.
libertarian philosophy has left him with an overly simplistic utopian view of the world and he needs help understanding the complex socio-economic nuances of reality
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2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
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The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
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Another fake news by the left. Somalia has too many governments.
...more like a warning, really
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