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  • Jammalambo
    Jammalambo Posts: 1,321
    jeffbr said:
    Well, those assumptions weren't mine, but absent facts, assumptions are all we have. And facts aren't knowable when the holder of those facts doesn't communicate.

    Fraudulent? Only if they don't deliver a 2016 and a 2017 package to people who have paid dues for both 2016 and 2017, but I'm not throwing around that word at this point. Negligent? Yup. Lazy? Yup. Indifferent? Yup. 

    The fact is: I agree with you.
    Already paid $100 for both memberships (like many others). Their lateness and lack of communication is inexcusable.
    So I was simply saying, yeah, it's frustrating, but 2016 package will contain its relative Deep and single. Of course the spine says 2017, we're almost 2018 after all (maybe 2016-2017 all seasons would have been better).
  • prl
    prl Posts: 132
    edited December 2017
    Jammalambo said:
    jeffbr said:
    Well, those assumptions weren't mine, but absent facts, assumptions are all we have. And facts aren't knowable when the holder of those facts doesn't communicate.

    Fraudulent? Only if they don't deliver a 2016 and a 2017 package to people who have paid dues for both 2016 and 2017, but I'm not throwing around that word at this point. Negligent? Yup. Lazy? Yup. Indifferent? Yup. 

    The fact is: I agree with you.
    Already paid $100 for both memberships (like many others). Their lateness and lack of communication is inexcusable.
    So I was simply saying, yeah, it's frustrating, but 2016 package will contain its relative Deep and single. Of course the spine says 2017, we're almost 2018 after all (maybe 2016-2017 all seasons would have been better).
    Of course what I wrote above are just my assumptions. Are they unfair? Hopefully, they are, and we'll have two Deep magazines and Ten Club Singles in our mailboxes soon. We're less than two weeks away from 2018 and we don't know anything about this. I might have missed the email where they apologize and give us a deadline for getting what we payed for, honestly don't remember getting one. Only those where they say that everything's in production, whatever that means. But wouldn't you agree that they should have said something already? 

    I'm not even talking as a fan anymore, I'm talking as a customer. I find this to be very disrespectful and honestly 10C members have been more tolerant than the most. Would you be ok if Amazon did something like this to you? Yeah, this is a fan club and they don't have the same means to produce and deliver. Well, communicate that. Apologize. Don't promise (and sell!) what you can't deliver. Getting the physical copies of the magazine and the single (and an uninspired tshirt) every year is what kept me on the analog membership instead of downgrading to digital. 
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  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    When it shows up it shows up.  Im sure it will be worth the wait
  • prl
    prl Posts: 132
    cp3iverson said:
    When it shows up it shows up.  Im sure it will be worth the wait
    I'm sorry, that's not how it works. Otherwise I'll pay when I pay, I'm sure it'll be worth the wait.
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  • drummerboy_73
    drummerboy_73 Las Vegas, NV Posts: 2,011
    prl said:

    I'm not even talking as a fan anymore, I'm talking as a customer. I find this to be very disrespectful and honestly 10C members have been more tolerant than the most. Would you be ok if Amazon did something like this to you? Yeah, this is a fan club and they don't have the same means to produce and deliver. Well, communicate that. Apologize. Don't promise (and sell!) what you can't deliver. Getting the physical copies of the magazine and the single (and an uninspired tshirt) every year is what kept me on the analog membership instead of downgrading to digital. 
    This. Thank you for the distinction between FAN and CUSTOMER. This is what a lot of folks are not getting. We're not feeling 'entitled' because we're Pearl Jam fans, but we ARE entitled to what we PAID for as CUSTOMERS almost TWO YEARS AGO. As a FAN, I get that the band is not as active and involved as they were 10-20 years ago, and while not happy with that, I get it. As a CUSTOMER, not getting what we paid for in a timely manner and the complete lack of communication is UNACCEPTABLE.
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  • PB11041
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    https://youtu.be/Xpugp6DIb3I

    No, you're never gonna get it
    Never ever gonna get it (no, not this time)
    No, you're never gonna get it (my love)
    Never ever gonna get it
    No, you're never gonna get it
    Never ever gonna get it (no, not this time)
    No, you're never gonna get it (my love)
    Never ever gonna get it
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  • kramer73
    kramer73 Posts: 2,634
    prl said:
    cp3iverson said:
    When it shows up it shows up.  Im sure it will be worth the wait
    I'm sorry, that's not how it works. Otherwise I'll pay when I pay, I'm sure it'll be worth the wait.
    Unfortunately this is how it's working.  The other option is to do the lower membership and just pick up the vinyl when they drop it in the shop.  

    You all have great arguments and ideas, but 10C is running the show here, and doesn't seem to want to share that info.

    If 10C really cared about what you all are going through, they would address it.
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    cp3iverson said:
    When it shows up it shows up.  Im sure it will be worth the wait
    Haha, if they deliver another drunken Tripplehorn/Vedder mess will it be worth the wait? 
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  • Nami
    Nami Newfoundland Posts: 5,999
    Tiki said:
    https://youtu.be/Xpugp6DIb3I

    No, you're never gonna get it
    Never ever gonna get it (no, not this time)
    No, you're never gonna get it (my love)
    Never ever gonna get it
    No, you're never gonna get it
    Never ever gonna get it (no, not this time)
    No, you're never gonna get it (my love)
    Never ever gonna get it
    you should be banned for posting en vogue video on a PJ site :) hahaha I kid I kid


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  • PJForceofNature
    PJForceofNature Posts: 3,087
    I'm trying not to think about it, so when it shows up, I'll be pleasantly surprised! :)
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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
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  • MedozK
    MedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,212
    dimitrispearljam said:
    So, the 2016 has shown up? So, now are we just waiting for the 2017?
  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,271
    MedozK said:
    dimitrispearljam said:
    So, the 2016 has shown up? So, now are we just waiting for the 2017?

    Indeed.

    Seeing as it's still 2017, it's still not late.
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  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,271
    I'm seeing some confusion in the thread.

    The deadline to join for a single is 12/31 (or 31/12 if you prefer.) Way back when, they would send out a reminder late in the year telling people to have their memberships current. Maybe you'd get the single by Christmas or at least a month of three later.

    The problem there was (IMO) trying to explain to people why they wouldn't get a single, even if they joined that year. "You joined, but it was after the deadline."

    The new way, everyone who is a member by 12/31 gets the single.

    I renew in February. I know I'm in for a long wait, since the deadline isn't until the last day of the year.

    And yeah... a MAJOR pass for them this year. The guy who mentioned his best friend dying hit the nail on the head. I have no doubt that Chris' death played a major factor.

    However... I do think it's a bit odd how the 2016 single has a 2017 song on it. A year or so ago, a lot of us were hoping for the Betterman from Letterman.... Betterman maybe has been overdone at this point with Walmer School, the guitar/organ version and the original.
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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,762
    Can't wait to hear. Photo posted over on Facebook.


  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725


    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • drummerboy_73
    drummerboy_73 Las Vegas, NV Posts: 2,011
    So does the fact that this says "2017" on the back mean that we don't get our complete membership benefits that we paid for in 2016...?
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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    Thanks debirah that semt me the pic so i can post it online..
    Huntington Beach, CA,  is where this arrived first
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    Thanks debirah that semt me the pic so i can post it online..
    Huntington Beach, CA,  is where this arrived first
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”

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