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Jason P · December 2017

In his opening press conference, Herm Edwards doesn't appear to know that ASU's mascot is a Sun Devil. 3 - 9, here we come!

Jason P · December 2017

I wonder if Herm resigns once he figures out he is coaching a bunch of heathens?

Wobbie · December 2017

Jason P said:

I wonder if Herm resigns once he figures out he is coaching a bunch of heathens?

that little guy is the only good thing about scum devils football.

sun devils baseball is a whole nuther story.

mace1229 · December 2017

Indifference71 said:

mace1229 said:

pjsteelerfan said:

mace1229 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

He was making $5.7 million a year at FSU, guaranteed thru 2024. How rich do you need to be?
I keep hearing all this bullshit about the facilities being so much better. Of course some SECSPN analyst will say that since there so far up that conference’s ass. FSU’s facilities are just as good. Maybe not as big, but just as good. They spent a shit ton updgrading after the championship season to make everything state-of-the-art and up to par with other big universities - because he asked for it, and the school made it happen. FSU would’ve bent over backwards for the guy. Instead he turned his back on FSU. Didn’t even have the balls to tell his coaches and players, he let the media do it for him. This is what you hired, Texas A&M. Like they say about women who cheat - once a cheater, always a cheater. He turned his back on us, don’t think he won’t do it to A&M if greener dollars are waived his way.
Looking like we might go after Willie Taggart. He’s a Florida native and pretty much put USF on the map during his time there. And he’s a Jim Harbaugh protege. I’d be happy with him.

Anyway, moving forward... Longest bowl streak in NCAA history!
F-L-O-R-I-D-A
S-T-A-T-E
(what? what?)
Florida State, Florida State, Florida State
Wooooooo!!

Its disgusting to me how most of the top paid public employees in the country are college coaches.
Just shows the focus our education system has when a teacher who is responsible for the education make make 30k a year, and a coach can make 100 times that. And how many of these kids after college football are going to need an education vs getting drafted and make a living off of their football skills? Very few.

While this is true, I also never had 100,000 people show up for my economics lectures in college. Or my business school make millions in t-shirts. While griping on their salary, the football programs also pay for most the other athletes playing sports that don't make money, as well as bring in a ton of donation money that gets allocated around the school as well. You can say the coaches are overpaid, but on the flip side I'm sure Sabans paid his dividends back to Alabama many times over.

I dont think the revenue the sport brings in makes any difference.
If the college board decided to cap coaches' salaries at 100k there'd still be kids playing football and there'd still be people going to watch.
Most of the current coaches of big teams would probably leave, because that is 1/100 of what they currently make. But making 100k a year still puts you in probably the top 10% of public employees. There would still be plenty of qualified candidates and lots of football.
Anyway, it just shows the focus, and part of the problem of our education system. To value sports 100 times greater than what the kids are actually going to college for (education).

It absolutely does. The football/basketball programs at these big schools that bring in all of this money through TV deals/attendance are what pays for all the other sports at colleges that don't bring in any revenue. So without football/basketball, there wouldn't be field hockey, golf, tennis, etc..

I agree, that is all true.
But my point is do you think students would stop playing football, people would stop watching it, and that there wouldn't be any willing coaches if they capped it at 100k, or even 250k if you felt the need to?
You can have a reasonable cap on coaching salaries and very little would change. Students are still going to play and people are still going to watch. I just dont think the revenue justifies giving the coaches such ridiculous salaries.

pjhawks · December 2017

mace1229 said:

Indifference71 said:

mace1229 said:

pjsteelerfan said:

mace1229 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

He was making $5.7 million a year at FSU, guaranteed thru 2024. How rich do you need to be?
I keep hearing all this bullshit about the facilities being so much better. Of course some SECSPN analyst will say that since there so far up that conference’s ass. FSU’s facilities are just as good. Maybe not as big, but just as good. They spent a shit ton updgrading after the championship season to make everything state-of-the-art and up to par with other big universities - because he asked for it, and the school made it happen. FSU would’ve bent over backwards for the guy. Instead he turned his back on FSU. Didn’t even have the balls to tell his coaches and players, he let the media do it for him. This is what you hired, Texas A&M. Like they say about women who cheat - once a cheater, always a cheater. He turned his back on us, don’t think he won’t do it to A&M if greener dollars are waived his way.
Looking like we might go after Willie Taggart. He’s a Florida native and pretty much put USF on the map during his time there. And he’s a Jim Harbaugh protege. I’d be happy with him.

Anyway, moving forward... Longest bowl streak in NCAA history!
F-L-O-R-I-D-A
S-T-A-T-E
(what? what?)
Florida State, Florida State, Florida State
Wooooooo!!

Its disgusting to me how most of the top paid public employees in the country are college coaches.
Just shows the focus our education system has when a teacher who is responsible for the education make make 30k a year, and a coach can make 100 times that. And how many of these kids after college football are going to need an education vs getting drafted and make a living off of their football skills? Very few.

While this is true, I also never had 100,000 people show up for my economics lectures in college. Or my business school make millions in t-shirts. While griping on their salary, the football programs also pay for most the other athletes playing sports that don't make money, as well as bring in a ton of donation money that gets allocated around the school as well. You can say the coaches are overpaid, but on the flip side I'm sure Sabans paid his dividends back to Alabama many times over.

I dont think the revenue the sport brings in makes any difference.
If the college board decided to cap coaches' salaries at 100k there'd still be kids playing football and there'd still be people going to watch.
Most of the current coaches of big teams would probably leave, because that is 1/100 of what they currently make. But making 100k a year still puts you in probably the top 10% of public employees. There would still be plenty of qualified candidates and lots of football.
Anyway, it just shows the focus, and part of the problem of our education system. To value sports 100 times greater than what the kids are actually going to college for (education).

It absolutely does. The football/basketball programs at these big schools that bring in all of this money through TV deals/attendance are what pays for all the other sports at colleges that don't bring in any revenue. So without football/basketball, there wouldn't be field hockey, golf, tennis, etc..

I agree, that is all true.
But my point is do you think students would stop playing football, people would stop watching it, and that there wouldn't be any willing coaches if they capped it at 100k, or even 250k if you felt the need to?
You can have a reasonable cap on coaching salaries and very little would change. Students are still going to play and people are still going to watch. I just dont think the revenue justifies giving the coaches such ridiculous salaries.

as bad as the salaries are the ridiculous extensions and buyouts they put in their contracts are worse. they end up having to pay millions of dollars to fire bad coaches. They give them extra years and money after 1 good year and/or keep adding years to these coaches deals. it's like every coach who gets fired still has 4-5 or more years on their deals because they extend them after every winning season. it makes zero sense to me to see on a coach gets extended until 2026 for example. wtf do you need to extend a coach that far out for? all that does is hamstring schools when they want to get rid of someone. stop giving extra unnecessarily years to coaches. it's just bad business and almost every school does it in football and basketball.

tweedyfanjen · December 2017

Jason P said:

In his opening press conference, Herm Edwards doesn't appear to know that ASU's mascot is a Sun Devil. 3 - 9, here we come!

Does he have an affiliation with ASU? Otherwise I don't get the hire.

At least you still have Bobby Hurley?

darwinstheory · December 2017

I liked Herm on ESPN...for whatever that's worth.

cutz · December 2017

tweedyfanjen said:

Jason P said:

In his opening press conference, Herm Edwards doesn't appear to know that ASU's mascot is a Sun Devil. 3 - 9, here we come!

Does he have an affiliation with ASU? Otherwise I don't get the hire.

At least you still have Bobby Hurley?

The AD at ASU was Herm Edwards agent.

Bobby Hurley is still ther.

lolobugg · December 2017

darwinstheory said:

I liked Herm on ESPN...for whatever that's worth.

i did too.

markymark550 · December 2017

tweedyfanjen said:

lolobugg said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Neither team sucks, that is silly. Bama still lands outside, I predict....

WRONG
you got it pretty much right this season though.
no way a 2 loss team was going to jump the Tide!!

PLEASE beat Clempzun this year. I cannot take another year of an orange championship.

Amen! I don't usually care about the other SEC schools. When they play Clemson though, they're my second favorite team that week. Heck, I'd even sing that obnoxious Rocky Top if it meant Clemson loses.

Wobbie · December 2017

clemson worse than bama? I don’t see how that could even be possible.

mace1229 · December 2017

My wife was born and raised in Clemson, so I married into that fanbase. I couldn't wear a Clemson shirt to the grocery store 2 years ago without a dozen people cheering for them.
Only 2 trips to the championship and now everyone wants them to lose?

Wobbie · December 2017

I could name two dozen teams I’d rather see lose.

markymark550 · December 2017

mace1229 said:

My wife was born and raised in Clemson, so I married into that fanbase. I couldn't wear a Clemson shirt to the grocery store 2 years ago without a dozen people cheering for them.
Only 2 trips to the championship and now everyone wants them to lose?

Well, tweedyfanjen and I are South Carolina alums/fans, so our despise of Clemson runs far deeper than these last 2 years.

And my condolences for your in-laws.

tweedyfanjen · December 2017

lolobugg said:

darwinstheory said:

I liked Herm on ESPN...for whatever that's worth.

i did too.

Me too, but he's been out of coaching a long time. Just a puzzling hire.

tweedyfanjen · December 2017

mace1229 said:

My wife was born and raised in Clemson, so I married into that fanbase. I couldn't wear a Clemson shirt to the grocery store 2 years ago without a dozen people cheering for them.
Only 2 trips to the championship and now everyone wants them to lose?

It's a pretty big rivalry if you haven't already noticed. I almost disowned my dad last year because he pulled for Clemson in the playoffs.

tweedyfanjen · December 2017

markymark550 said:

mace1229 said:

My wife was born and raised in Clemson, so I married into that fanbase. I couldn't wear a Clemson shirt to the grocery store 2 years ago without a dozen people cheering for them.
Only 2 trips to the championship and now everyone wants them to lose?

Well, tweedyfanjen and I are South Carolina alums/fans, so our despise of Clemson runs far deeper than these last 2 years.

And my condolences for your in-laws.

Correct. My hatred goes back to the Danny Ford era.

lolobugg · December 2017

tweedyfanjen said:

markymark550 said:

mace1229 said:

My wife was born and raised in Clemson, so I married into that fanbase. I couldn't wear a Clemson shirt to the grocery store 2 years ago without a dozen people cheering for them.
Only 2 trips to the championship and now everyone wants them to lose?

Well, tweedyfanjen and I are South Carolina alums/fans, so our despise of Clemson runs far deeper than these last 2 years.

And my condolences for your in-laws.

Correct. My hatred goes back to the Danny Ford era.

I hear ya both.

My hatred runs deep for Auburn and Tennessee.

I actually had hope for an Auburn win this weekend because I didn't think we would get in if they lost.

knowing what I know now... I hate myself for doing it.

markymark550 · December 2017

lolobugg said:

tweedyfanjen said:

markymark550 said:

mace1229 said:

My wife was born and raised in Clemson, so I married into that fanbase. I couldn't wear a Clemson shirt to the grocery store 2 years ago without a dozen people cheering for them.
Only 2 trips to the championship and now everyone wants them to lose?

Well, tweedyfanjen and I are South Carolina alums/fans, so our despise of Clemson runs far deeper than these last 2 years.

And my condolences for your in-laws.

Correct. My hatred goes back to the Danny Ford era.

I hear ya both.
My hatred runs deep for Auburn and Tennessee.
I actually had hope for an Auburn win this weekend because I didn't think we would get in if they lost.
knowing what I know now... I hate myself for doing it.

You understand, but most don't. For the most part, outside of the state, not too many people realize the SC-Clemson rivalry is as heated as it is. I was traveling through Texas last week and upon seeing my SC hat, a Longhorn fan asked if I was excited that a team from my state was in the CFP. I then had to ask if he would be happy if Texas A&M made it. He replied "Hell no. Longhorn fans hate A&M." I informed him that was the nature of our rivalry.

Wobbie · December 2017

it probably also pisses you guys off that south carolina is so irrelevant

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