Hillary Clinton: What happened
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Her book will do fine for a time and then in a few years you will see one in every thrift store in America. I've seen this time and again. Books on political figure with staying power are not all that common. A few few example: David McCullough's Truman, Walter Isaacson's Benjamin Franklin: An American Life.Gern Blansten said:
Here's an idea...don't buy her book. Check the sales once it comes out and update us as to whether the world wanted it.JimmyV said:Keep cashing them checks I guess. I don't think the world really needs another Hillary Clinton book, and I doubt very much she is going to be any more open and honest here than she's ever been in the past. That's not because she is a liar, but it is because she is a lifelong politician. But hey, if some publisher is willing to pay and there's an audience for it, have at it.
Hillary was a deeply flawed candidate who secured the nomination of her party via an even more flawed process that began (and arguably ended) long before the Iowa caucuses. She would undoubtedly have made a better President than Donald Trump but so too would almost anyone else. That isn't the bar for being a great or even good President.
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I think there is a difference between winning an election and being a great president. was Hillary a leader, yes I would say she was. look at all the things she fought and won for. shit just her speech in Beijing on womans right makes her a great leader.brianlux said:^^^ I agree with everything Jimmy said.
The last presidential election was a mess. We had no one who truly inspired with leadership potential and because of that added up enough protest votes such that we ended up electing a clown. And if you are not a strong enough candidate to beat a clown in an election, you are probably not going to make a good (let alone a great) president.
Please, America, give us better choices in 2020!
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you can realistically say that about all books not just books on political figuresbrianlux said:
Her book will do fine for a time and then in a few years you will see one in every thrift store in America. I've seen this time and again. Books on political figure with staying power are not all that common. A few few example: David McCullough's Truman, Walter Isaacson's Benjamin Franklin: An American Life.Gern Blansten said:
Here's an idea...don't buy her book. Check the sales once it comes out and update us as to whether the world wanted it.JimmyV said:Keep cashing them checks I guess. I don't think the world really needs another Hillary Clinton book, and I doubt very much she is going to be any more open and honest here than she's ever been in the past. That's not because she is a liar, but it is because she is a lifelong politician. But hey, if some publisher is willing to pay and there's an audience for it, have at it.
Hillary was a deeply flawed candidate who secured the nomination of her party via an even more flawed process that began (and arguably ended) long before the Iowa caucuses. She would undoubtedly have made a better President than Donald Trump but so too would almost anyone else. That isn't the bar for being a great or even good President.
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Well, it's true, there's a lot of landfill out there.fife said:
you can realistically say that about all books not just books on political figuresbrianlux said:
Her book will do fine for a time and then in a few years you will see one in every thrift store in America. I've seen this time and again. Books on political figure with staying power are not all that common. A few few example: David McCullough's Truman, Walter Isaacson's Benjamin Franklin: An American Life.Gern Blansten said:
Here's an idea...don't buy her book. Check the sales once it comes out and update us as to whether the world wanted it.JimmyV said:Keep cashing them checks I guess. I don't think the world really needs another Hillary Clinton book, and I doubt very much she is going to be any more open and honest here than she's ever been in the past. That's not because she is a liar, but it is because she is a lifelong politician. But hey, if some publisher is willing to pay and there's an audience for it, have at it.
Hillary was a deeply flawed candidate who secured the nomination of her party via an even more flawed process that began (and arguably ended) long before the Iowa caucuses. She would undoubtedly have made a better President than Donald Trump but so too would almost anyone else. That isn't the bar for being a great or even good President.
"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
Too expensive of toilet paper for me...maybe an "elite" could use it to wipe their butt.0
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What was wrong? That she cheated? Or that the party machination chose a democrat over a socialist? Typical Bernie Bro feeling the Bern. And hey, trump's an idiot but lets justify his presidency.JC29856 said:
typical centrist math 1wrong + 1wrong = rightHalifax2TheMax said:
Because cheating has never happened before in politics? Ever? You know whats never happened? A presidential campaign for POTUS colluding with a hostile foreign power to influence an election outcome. That's what has never happened before until Trump came along.JC29856 said:
Some are okay with being cheated, some are not.benjs said:
I honestly don't know what your point is. Is there a single person who belongs to (or even knows about the existence of) the DNC that don't know that from the get-go, Clinton was preferred by party officials? This isn't news - it's been assumed and/or known for at least two years.JC29856 said:then this...
The 2016 presidential campaign of Hillary Rodham Clinton was announced in a YouTube video, on April 12, 2015.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_presidential_campaign,_2016
Maybe you haven"t read Section 4 of the DNC by-laws?
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2989759-Impartiality-Clause-DNC-Charter-Bylaws-Art-5-Sec-4.html09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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A Trump supporter that wipes his ass?PJPOWER said:Too expensive of toilet paper for me...maybe an "elite" could use it to wipe their butt.
Do you brush your tooth too?
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are you asking for my quote posts about Bernie? it didn't work out well for the last guy that asked for non-whiteness quote posts....Halifax2TheMax said:
What was wrong? That she cheated? Or that the party machination chose a democrat over a socialist? Typical Bernie Bro feeling the Bern. And hey, trump's an idiot but lets justify his presidency.JC29856 said:
typical centrist math 1wrong + 1wrong = rightHalifax2TheMax said:
Because cheating has never happened before in politics? Ever? You know whats never happened? A presidential campaign for POTUS colluding with a hostile foreign power to influence an election outcome. That's what has never happened before until Trump came along.JC29856 said:
Some are okay with being cheated, some are not.benjs said:
I honestly don't know what your point is. Is there a single person who belongs to (or even knows about the existence of) the DNC that don't know that from the get-go, Clinton was preferred by party officials? This isn't news - it's been assumed and/or known for at least two years.JC29856 said:then this...
The 2016 presidential campaign of Hillary Rodham Clinton was announced in a YouTube video, on April 12, 2015.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_presidential_campaign,_2016
Maybe you haven"t read Section 4 of the DNC by-laws?
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2989759-Impartiality-Clause-DNC-Charter-Bylaws-Art-5-Sec-4.html
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What are "non-whiteness quote posts?" Crypticness strikes again? Search and post away, just refrain from Comet Pizza, please.JC29856 said:
are you asking for my quote posts about Bernie? it didn't work out well for the last guy that asked for non-whiteness quote posts....Halifax2TheMax said:
What was wrong? That she cheated? Or that the party machination chose a democrat over a socialist? Typical Bernie Bro feeling the Bern. And hey, trump's an idiot but lets justify his presidency.JC29856 said:
typical centrist math 1wrong + 1wrong = rightHalifax2TheMax said:
Because cheating has never happened before in politics? Ever? You know whats never happened? A presidential campaign for POTUS colluding with a hostile foreign power to influence an election outcome. That's what has never happened before until Trump came along.JC29856 said:
Some are okay with being cheated, some are not.benjs said:
I honestly don't know what your point is. Is there a single person who belongs to (or even knows about the existence of) the DNC that don't know that from the get-go, Clinton was preferred by party officials? This isn't news - it's been assumed and/or known for at least two years.JC29856 said:then this...
The 2016 presidential campaign of Hillary Rodham Clinton was announced in a YouTube video, on April 12, 2015.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_presidential_campaign,_2016
Maybe you haven"t read Section 4 of the DNC by-laws?
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2989759-Impartiality-Clause-DNC-Charter-Bylaws-Art-5-Sec-4.html
say the word, I'm at 62% battery and the search is properly functioning09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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Haha, I wouldn't call myself a Trump supporter as much as an anti-Clintonite. Maybe those are both the same now with all the blurry lines. Wonder if Billy will hollow out any of these books to hide his Cuban cigars in.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
A Trump supporter that wipes his ass?PJPOWER said:Too expensive of toilet paper for me...maybe an "elite" could use it to wipe their butt.
Do you brush your tooth too?
(kidding... kind of lol)
https://youtu.be/eFktbuhAyLM
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He ran in the past and the idiot has been a household name for years. Bullies are opportunists, and 2016 provided a good opportunity since the Republicans were rudderless and had no platform.JC29856 said:
anyone ever stop to ask, of all the talk of Trump running pres since he became a household name, why he chose this particular election to run? at age 72 or however old he is. just dumb luck I guess, maybe it's all about his tv network aspirations, or simply Putin told him to do so.brianlux said:^^^ I agree with everything Jimmy said.
The last presidential election was a mess. We had no one who truly inspired with leadership potential and because of that added up enough protest votes such that we ended up electing a clown. And if you are not a strong enough candidate to beat a clown in an election, you are probably not going to make a good (let alone a great) president.
Please, America, give us better choices in 2020!
Putin had such a miserable relationship with Clinton and Co(uranium1)(toni podesta)0 -
She lost so what lol you can't move on can you !jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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Seriously friends, wouldn't you agree that we could do better than Trump, Clinton, Sanders and Stein? Couldn't we? Good gawd I hope so.
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unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487I knew a guy once. Looks pretty sane now, huh?0 -
Benghazi! Emails!
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JC?unsung said:I knew a guy once. Looks pretty sane now, huh?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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What a minute... Jesus ran for president?Halifax2TheMax said:
JC?unsung said:I knew a guy once. Looks pretty sane now, huh?
Well I'll be!
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You're on to me Brian. And apparently to the 35% he has. God speed.brianlux said:
What a minute... Jesus ran for president?Halifax2TheMax said:
JC?unsung said:I knew a guy once. Looks pretty sane now, huh?
Well I'll be!09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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Dilusionalfife said:
I am sorry to disagree with you Kat but she would not have been a very good president, she would have been a great president.Kat said:I hope it's a good read; I'm looking forward to reading it. She's had time to analyze the events.
She would have made a very good president, much better than what we have now....a president who divides us worse than we are.
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