Hillary Clinton: What happened

mace1229

Kat said:

I hope it's a good read; I'm looking forward to reading it. She's had time to analyze the events. She would have made a very good president, much better than what we have now....a president who divides us worse than we are. 

But when asked "what enemy are you most proud of" in a debate, her answer was the republicans. I hated that answer, not only did she make a point to say republicans are her enemy, but made it known that she was proud to not work and get along with them.
She wasn't going to be any less of a divider than what we have.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

mace1229 said:

Kat said:

I hope it's a good read; I'm looking forward to reading it. She's had time to analyze the events. She would have made a very good president, much better than what we have now....a president who divides us worse than we are. 

But when asked "what enemy are you most proud of" in a debate, her answer was the republicans. I hated that answer, not only did she make a point to say republicans are her enemy, but made it known that she was proud to not work and get along with them.
She wasn't going to be any less of a divider than what we have.

Disagree.

To your point... she may not have bridged the gap that already existed, but people would not take to the streets in violent clashes like you are currently experiencing.

Gern Blansten

I pre-ordered this for my Kindle.  Can't wait to read it.  

Ignorance won this election.  Let's just hope we learn from it.

rgambs

JC29856 said:

“In the past, for reasons I try to explain, I’ve often felt I had to be careful in public, like I was up on a wire without a net. Now I’m letting my guard down.” —Hillary Rodham Clinton, from the introduction of What Happened

For the first time(what about the drunken rage on election night?), Hillary Rodham Clinton reveals what she was thinking (were all wondering) and feeling(robots dont have feelings) during one of the most controversial and unpredictable presidential elections in history(polls had it correct, thou). Now free from the constraints of running(donors), Hillary takes you inside the intense personal experience of becoming the first woman nominated(appointed) for president by a major party(theres only 2) in an election marked by rage, sexism, exhilarating highs and infuriating lows, stranger-than-fiction twists(grab them where?), Russian interference(still no proof), and an opponent who broke all the rules(who cheated?). This is her most personal memoir yet.

In these pages, she describes what it was like to run against Donald Trump(Nazi), the mistakes she made(1,000,000,000 pages long), how she has coped(copious vino) with a shocking and devastating loss(the polls the polls), and how she found the strength(she was thrown in a van) to pick herself back up afterward. With humor(impossible) and candor(also impossible), she tells readers what it took to get back on her feet(helped by 3 men in suits)—the rituals(oh boy dont go there!), relationships(Huma DWS), and reading that got her through, and what the experience has taught her about life(go hiking and run into committee staff). She speaks about the challenges of being a strong woman(shes wobbly) in the public eye(never made those speeches public), the criticism over her voice(we came, we saw, he died, hahahahaha!) , age, and appearance, and the double standard(cant criticize) confronting women in politics.

She lays out how the 2016 election was marked by an unprecedented assault on our democracy by a foreign adversary(say it enough and people will believe it). By analyzing the evidence(her emails and skippys too) and connecting the dots(1+1 billionaires = 2 billionaires), Hillary shows just how dangerous the forces(pepe the frog?) are that shaped the outcome(still havent accepted the outcome of the election), and why Americans need to understand them(were not stupid) to protect our values(bombing brown people 100,000 times) and our democracy(rigged primary) in the future.

The election of 2016 was unprecedented(isnt it unpresedented) and historic. What Happened is the story of that campaign and its aftermath—both a deeply intimate account and a cautionary tale for the nation.

You really enjoyed punching that vote for Trump didn't you?

Kat

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mace1229 said:

Kat said:

I hope it's a good read; I'm looking forward to reading it. She's had time to analyze the events. She would have made a very good president, much better than what we have now....a president who divides us worse than we are. 

But when asked "what enemy are you most proud of" in a debate, her answer was the republicans. I hated that answer, not only did she make a point to say republicans are her enemy, but made it known that she was proud to not work and get along with them.
She wasn't going to be any less of a divider than what we have.

Disagree.

To your point... she may not have bridged the gap that already existed, but people would not take to the streets in violent clashes like you are currently experiencing.

And she was known for reaching across the aisle a lot as a Senator. Not every answer is a great answer in the heat of a debate. I tend to watch what people do more than what they say under stress. I feel that she's not usually a relaxed person but I love her anyway in spite of that. 

JimmyV

Keep cashing them checks I guess. I don't think the world really needs another Hillary Clinton book, and I doubt very much she is going to be any more open and honest here than she's ever been in the past. That's not because she is a liar, but it is because she is a lifelong politician. But hey, if some publisher is willing to pay and there's an audience for it, have at it.

Hillary was a deeply flawed candidate who secured the nomination of her party via an even more flawed process that began (and arguably ended) long before the Iowa caucuses. She would undoubtedly have made a better President than Donald Trump but so too would almost anyone else. That isn't the bar for being a great or even good President.

brianlux

^^^ I agree with everything Jimmy said.

The last presidential election was a mess.  We had no one who truly inspired with leadership potential and because of that added up  enough protest votes such that we ended up electing a clown.  And if you are not a strong enough candidate to beat a clown in an election, you are probably not going to make a good (let alone a great) president.

Please, America, give us better choices in 2020!

HughFreakingDillon

JimmyV said:

Keep cashing them checks I guess. I don't think the world really needs another Hillary Clinton book, and I doubt very much she is going to be any more open and honest here than she's ever been in the past. That's not because she is a liar, but it is because she is a lifelong politician. But hey, if some publisher is willing to pay and there's an audience for it, have at it.

Hillary was a deeply flawed candidate who secured the nomination of her party via an even more flawed process that began (and arguably ended) long before the Iowa caucuses. She would undoubtedly have made a better President than Donald Trump but so too would almost anyone else. That isn't the bar for being a great or even good President.

she might be more honest now knowing that her political run is over. 

brianlux

HughFreakingDillon said:

JimmyV said:

Keep cashing them checks I guess. I don't think the world really needs another Hillary Clinton book, and I doubt very much she is going to be any more open and honest here than she's ever been in the past. That's not because she is a liar, but it is because she is a lifelong politician. But hey, if some publisher is willing to pay and there's an audience for it, have at it.

Hillary was a deeply flawed candidate who secured the nomination of her party via an even more flawed process that began (and arguably ended) long before the Iowa caucuses. She would undoubtedly have made a better President than Donald Trump but so too would almost anyone else. That isn't the bar for being a great or even good President.

she might be more honest now knowing that her political run is over. 

Is it?

HughFreakingDillon

brianlux said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JimmyV said:

Keep cashing them checks I guess. I don't think the world really needs another Hillary Clinton book, and I doubt very much she is going to be any more open and honest here than she's ever been in the past. That's not because she is a liar, but it is because she is a lifelong politician. But hey, if some publisher is willing to pay and there's an audience for it, have at it.

Hillary was a deeply flawed candidate who secured the nomination of her party via an even more flawed process that began (and arguably ended) long before the Iowa caucuses. She would undoubtedly have made a better President than Donald Trump but so too would almost anyone else. That isn't the bar for being a great or even good President.

she might be more honest now knowing that her political run is over. 

Is it?

two failed presidential bids in a row? I'd say it is. now she's just going to cash in on the speech circuit to fund Chelsea's run for Senate. LOL

brianlux

HughFreakingDillon said:

brianlux said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JimmyV said:

Keep cashing them checks I guess. I don't think the world really needs another Hillary Clinton book, and I doubt very much she is going to be any more open and honest here than she's ever been in the past. That's not because she is a liar, but it is because she is a lifelong politician. But hey, if some publisher is willing to pay and there's an audience for it, have at it.

Hillary was a deeply flawed candidate who secured the nomination of her party via an even more flawed process that began (and arguably ended) long before the Iowa caucuses. She would undoubtedly have made a better President than Donald Trump but so too would almost anyone else. That isn't the bar for being a great or even good President.

she might be more honest now knowing that her political run is over. 

Is it?

two failed presidential bids in a row? I'd say it is. now she's just going to cash in on the speech circuit to fund Chelsea's run for Senate. LOL

If we just gave up this silly presidential business and became a Monarchy we could have a strong run of Clintons ad infinitum. 

Halifax2TheMax

JC29856 said:

benjs said:

JC29856 said:

then this...

The 2016 presidential campaign of Hillary Rodham Clinton was announced in a YouTube video, on April 12, 2015.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_presidential_campaign,_2016

I honestly don't know what your point is. Is there a single person who belongs to (or even knows about the existence of) the DNC that don't know that from the get-go, Clinton was preferred by party officials? This isn't news - it's been assumed and/or known for at least two years.

Some are okay with being cheated, some are not.
Maybe you haven"t read Section 4 of the DNC by-laws?
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2989759-Impartiality-Clause-DNC-Charter-Bylaws-Art-5-Sec-4.html

Because cheating has never happened before in politics? Ever? You know whats never happened? A presidential campaign for POTUS colluding with a hostile foreign power to influence an election outcome. That's what has never happened before until Trump came along.

JC29856

JimmyV said:

Keep cashing them checks I guess. I don't think the world really needs another Hillary Clinton book, and I doubt very much she is going to be any more open and honest here than she's ever been in the past. That's not because she is a liar, but it is because she is a lifelong politician. But hey, if some publisher is willing to pay and there's an audience for it, have at it.

Hillary was a deeply flawed candidate who secured the nomination of her party via an even more flawed process that began (and arguably ended) long before the Iowa caucuses. She would undoubtedly have made a better President than Donald Trump but so too would almost anyone else. That isn't the bar for being a great or even good President.

you remember arriving and running for cover from sniper fire?

HughFreakingDillon

brianlux said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

brianlux said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JimmyV said:

Keep cashing them checks I guess. I don't think the world really needs another Hillary Clinton book, and I doubt very much she is going to be any more open and honest here than she's ever been in the past. That's not because she is a liar, but it is because she is a lifelong politician. But hey, if some publisher is willing to pay and there's an audience for it, have at it.

Hillary was a deeply flawed candidate who secured the nomination of her party via an even more flawed process that began (and arguably ended) long before the Iowa caucuses. She would undoubtedly have made a better President than Donald Trump but so too would almost anyone else. That isn't the bar for being a great or even good President.

she might be more honest now knowing that her political run is over. 

Is it?

two failed presidential bids in a row? I'd say it is. now she's just going to cash in on the speech circuit to fund Chelsea's run for Senate. LOL

If we just gave up this silly presidential business and became a Monarchy we could have a strong run of Clintons ad infinitum. 

can you imagine the Trump sons as the successors to the American throne? Good god. 

JC29856

HughFreakingDillon said:

JimmyV said:

Keep cashing them checks I guess. I don't think the world really needs another Hillary Clinton book, and I doubt very much she is going to be any more open and honest here than she's ever been in the past. That's not because she is a liar, but it is because she is a lifelong politician. But hey, if some publisher is willing to pay and there's an audience for it, have at it.

Hillary was a deeply flawed candidate who secured the nomination of her party via an even more flawed process that began (and arguably ended) long before the Iowa caucuses. She would undoubtedly have made a better President than Donald Trump but so too would almost anyone else. That isn't the bar for being a great or even good President.

she might be more honest now knowing that her political run is over. 

toasted first by a no name senator community organizer and then by a celebrity game show host bafoon

JimmyV

HughFreakingDillon said:

brianlux said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JimmyV said:

Keep cashing them checks I guess. I don't think the world really needs another Hillary Clinton book, and I doubt very much she is going to be any more open and honest here than she's ever been in the past. That's not because she is a liar, but it is because she is a lifelong politician. But hey, if some publisher is willing to pay and there's an audience for it, have at it.

Hillary was a deeply flawed candidate who secured the nomination of her party via an even more flawed process that began (and arguably ended) long before the Iowa caucuses. She would undoubtedly have made a better President than Donald Trump but so too would almost anyone else. That isn't the bar for being a great or even good President.

she might be more honest now knowing that her political run is over. 

Is it?

two failed presidential bids in a row? I'd say it is. now she's just going to cash in on the speech circuit to fund Chelsea's run for Senate. LOL

Yeah I remain unconvinced that it is. Or, maybe more accurately, that she has accepted that it is. Time will tell. I would be stunned to see her get the nomination in 2020 but I would not be stunned to learn she was dipping her toe in and feeling out a possible run.

JC29856

Halifax2TheMax said:

JC29856 said:

benjs said:

JC29856 said:

then this...

The 2016 presidential campaign of Hillary Rodham Clinton was announced in a YouTube video, on April 12, 2015.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_presidential_campaign,_2016

I honestly don't know what your point is. Is there a single person who belongs to (or even knows about the existence of) the DNC that don't know that from the get-go, Clinton was preferred by party officials? This isn't news - it's been assumed and/or known for at least two years.

Some are okay with being cheated, some are not.
Maybe you haven"t read Section 4 of the DNC by-laws?
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2989759-Impartiality-Clause-DNC-Charter-Bylaws-Art-5-Sec-4.html

Because cheating has never happened before in politics? Ever? You know whats never happened? A presidential campaign for POTUS colluding with a hostile foreign power to influence an election outcome. That's what has never happened before until Trump came along.

typical centrist math 1wrong + 1wrong = right

Gern Blansten

JimmyV said:

Keep cashing them checks I guess. I don't think the world really needs another Hillary Clinton book, and I doubt very much she is going to be any more open and honest here than she's ever been in the past. That's not because she is a liar, but it is because she is a lifelong politician. But hey, if some publisher is willing to pay and there's an audience for it, have at it.

Hillary was a deeply flawed candidate who secured the nomination of her party via an even more flawed process that began (and arguably ended) long before the Iowa caucuses. She would undoubtedly have made a better President than Donald Trump but so too would almost anyone else. That isn't the bar for being a great or even good President.

Here's an idea...don't buy her book.  Check the sales once it comes out and update us as to whether the world wanted it.

JimmyV

Gern Blansten said:

JimmyV said:

Keep cashing them checks I guess. I don't think the world really needs another Hillary Clinton book, and I doubt very much she is going to be any more open and honest here than she's ever been in the past. That's not because she is a liar, but it is because she is a lifelong politician. But hey, if some publisher is willing to pay and there's an audience for it, have at it.

Hillary was a deeply flawed candidate who secured the nomination of her party via an even more flawed process that began (and arguably ended) long before the Iowa caucuses. She would undoubtedly have made a better President than Donald Trump but so too would almost anyone else. That isn't the bar for being a great or even good President.

Here's an idea...don't buy her book.  Check the sales once it comes out and update us as to whether the world wanted it.

Calm down.

JC29856

brianlux said:

^^^ I agree with everything Jimmy said.

The last presidential election was a mess.  We had no one who truly inspired with leadership potential and because of that added up  enough protest votes such that we ended up electing a clown.  And if you are not a strong enough candidate to beat a clown in an election, you are probably not going to make a good (let alone a great) president.

Please, America, give us better choices in 2020!

anyone ever stop to ask, of all the talk of Trump running pres since he became a household name, why he chose this particular election to run? at age 72 or however old he is. just dumb luck I guess, maybe it's all about his tv network aspirations, or simply Putin told him to do so.
Putin had such a miserable relationship with Clinton and Co(uranium1)(toni podesta)