Hillary Clinton: What happened

JC29856

Hillary has a new book coming out about her 2016 campaign and electron loss to trump. Some early excerpts are being pre released as America still wants to know what happened? 

JC29856

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/23/politics/hillary-clinton-memoir-campaign-what-happened/index.html


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/08/23/hillary-clinton-said-her-skin-crawled-when-donald-trump-stood-behind-her-on-debate-stage/

Trump made her skin crawl!

JC29856

This happened..

From:[email protected]
To: [email protected], [email protected] 
Date: 2015-02-12 13:16 Subject: DWS

Below is readout from the call with DWS this am. Separately, Nutter just called me to thank HRC for being a sounding board. He and Rendell will be co-chairs of the convention committee and David Cohen will be Senior Advisor to the convention and lead up fundraising.

DWS: wanted to choose the city that was best prepared. Spoke with POTUS last night. Focused on logistics and money and the delegate has the best experience possible, Philadelphia was the strong leader. Wasn't even a close call. HRC: I know the last visit you had there, they had more $$ in the bank then expected DWS: They really did. Nutter called last night & mentioned another $1 million cash on hand. It really was about the delegate experience though and . No convention center, midtown manhattan, etc. Columbus was also very spread out. This is the setup that we want our delegates to have. HRC: do you have to tell BdB and Coleman? DWS: I do. HRC: Important to say you went over all this with the president. DWS: yes, met last night. Honestly, Philly was the most put together, best proposal by far, etc. HRC: capacity to raise the money? DWS: oh yes. Sat for an hour with David Cohen who will take a title with the host committee, benchmark fundraising will now be in the contract. I met with each mayor at the DNC and was firm about the money. HRC: who are you putting in charge of the convention? DWS: need to hire a CEO. Will run a process and determine that. If you have candidates that are good to look at, let me know and we'll be sure to let you know. HRC: congratulations on the process. If we plan it right, all the great, historical sites of Philadelphia will be great for us DWS: agreed, liberty bell, etc. It's great. Second thing, I've seen an uptick of negative stories about you in the press, I will gladly speak on your behalf. HRC: thank you. Biding my time for now and thank you for the offer. Who should we talk to about this? DWS: Tracey.

JC29856

then this....

DWS call

From:[email protected]
To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] 
Date: 2015-03-27 20:10 Subject: DWS call

I just got a heads up call that Leah Daughtry has been selected as convention ceo. DWS wants to tell HRC personally and they are speaking shortly. They asked us not to share fyi.

JC29856

then this...

The 2016 presidential campaign of Hillary Rodham Clinton was announced in a YouTube video, on April 12, 2015.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_presidential_campaign,_2016

Halifax2TheMax

Bern-stupid. Still holding out for lock her up? I can't wait for your posts of excerpts of her book.

JC29856

Halifax2TheMax said:

Bern-stupid. Still holding out for lock her up? I can't wait for your posts of excerpts of her book.

If you haven't been paying attention, I'm a big proponent of innocent until proof of intent

benjs

JC29856 said:

then this...

The 2016 presidential campaign of Hillary Rodham Clinton was announced in a YouTube video, on April 12, 2015.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_presidential_campaign,_2016

I honestly don't know what your point is. Is there a single person who belongs to (or even knows about the existence of) the DNC that don't know that from the get-go, Clinton was preferred by party officials? This isn't news - it's been assumed and/or known for at least two years.

Halifax2TheMax

CaJC29856 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Bern-stupid. Still holding out for lock her up? I can't wait for your posts of excerpts of her book.

If you haven't been paying attention, I'm a big proponent of innocent until proof of intent

care to enumerate the "intent?"

JC29856

benjs said:

JC29856 said:

then this...

The 2016 presidential campaign of Hillary Rodham Clinton was announced in a YouTube video, on April 12, 2015.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_presidential_campaign,_2016

I honestly don't know what your point is. Is there a single person who belongs to (or even knows about the existence of) the DNC that don't know that from the get-go, Clinton was preferred by party officials? This isn't news - it's been assumed and/or known for at least two years.

Some are okay with being cheated, some are not.
Maybe you haven"t read Section 4 of the DNC by-laws?
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2989759-Impartiality-Clause-DNC-Charter-Bylaws-Art-5-Sec-4.html

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Clinton is a goof. She was not fantastic in my mind, but infinitely more palatable than Trump. Let's be real about that.

Watch this clip and look at orange gizzard neck stalk Clinton (he's repugnant):

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KD5h50cqJV8

Kat

I hope it's a good read; I'm looking forward to reading it. She's had time to analyze the events. She would have made a very good president, much better than what we have now....a president who divides us worse than we are. 

JC29856

“In the past, for reasons I try to explain, I’ve often felt I had to be careful in public, like I was up on a wire without a net. Now I’m letting my guard down.” —Hillary Rodham Clinton, from the introduction of What Happened

For the first time(what about the drunken rage on election night?), Hillary Rodham Clinton reveals what she was thinking (were all wondering) and feeling(robots dont have feelings) during one of the most controversial and unpredictable presidential elections in history(polls had it correct, thou). Now free from the constraints of running(donors), Hillary takes you inside the intense personal experience of becoming the first woman nominated(appointed) for president by a major party(theres only 2) in an election marked by rage, sexism, exhilarating highs and infuriating lows, stranger-than-fiction twists(grab them where?), Russian interference(still no proof), and an opponent who broke all the rules(who cheated?). This is her most personal memoir yet.

In these pages, she describes what it was like to run against Donald Trump(Nazi), the mistakes she made(1,000,000,000 pages long), how she has coped(copious vino) with a shocking and devastating loss(the polls the polls), and how she found the strength(she was thrown in a van) to pick herself back up afterward. With humor(impossible) and candor(also impossible), she tells readers what it took to get back on her feet(helped by 3 men in suits)—the rituals(oh boy dont go there!), relationships(Huma DWS), and reading that got her through, and what the experience has taught her about life(go hiking and run into committee staff). She speaks about the challenges of being a strong woman(shes wobbly) in the public eye(never made those speeches public), the criticism over her voice(we came, we saw, he died, hahahahaha!) , age, and appearance, and the double standard(cant criticize) confronting women in politics.

She lays out how the 2016 election was marked by an unprecedented assault on our democracy by a foreign adversary(say it enough and people will believe it). By analyzing the evidence(her emails and skippys too) and connecting the dots(1+1 billionaires = 2 billionaires), Hillary shows just how dangerous the forces(pepe the frog?) are that shaped the outcome(still havent accepted the outcome of the election), and why Americans need to understand them(were not stupid) to protect our values(bombing brown people 100,000 times) and our democracy(rigged primary) in the future.

The election of 2016 was unprecedented(isnt it unpresedented) and historic. What Happened is the story of that campaign and its aftermath—both a deeply intimate account and a cautionary tale for the nation.

fife

Kat said:

I hope it's a good read; I'm looking forward to reading it. She's had time to analyze the events. She would have made a very good president, much better than what we have now....a president who divides us worse than we are. 

I am sorry to disagree with you Kat but she would not have been a very good president, she would have been a great president. 

benjs

JC29856 said:

benjs said:

JC29856 said:

then this...

The 2016 presidential campaign of Hillary Rodham Clinton was announced in a YouTube video, on April 12, 2015.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_presidential_campaign,_2016

I honestly don't know what your point is. Is there a single person who belongs to (or even knows about the existence of) the DNC that don't know that from the get-go, Clinton was preferred by party officials? This isn't news - it's been assumed and/or known for at least two years.

Some are okay with being cheated, some are not.
Maybe you haven"t read Section 4 of the DNC by-laws?
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2989759-Impartiality-Clause-DNC-Charter-Bylaws-Art-5-Sec-4.html

"Cheated"? DNC by-laws are not laws - they are regulations within the Party. 

In the short-term future, there are two highly probable situations: first, the proportion of stupid/complacent/disengaged/naive/gullible/powerless (which ever term you feel best fits) in America will remain nearly equivalent to today at best. Second, the proportion of cunning/deceptive/opportunists in politics will remain nearly equivalent to today at best (and I suspect this will grow, not shrink, as the RNC has shown that if your lies become bolder - regardless of its transparency - your electability will increase). 

There are two groups with the power to change the behaviour of the DNC: the politicians in it, and the voters. Do you refute my premise above, and feel that the politicians will grow more honest and/or the people will become powerful? 

People here have called you a Leninist, but I don't think you are - I think you have pure intentions, but an impossibly high standard of ethics from a group of persons (politicians) who are bound to none. You are asking humans with power to stop being greedy - you are asking humans to stop being what they have been for their entire existence. I thought I was an idealist with my head in the clouds, but what you envision has no basis in reality. 

Kat

fife said:

Kat said:

I hope it's a good read; I'm looking forward to reading it. She's had time to analyze the events. She would have made a very good president, much better than what we have now....a president who divides us worse than we are. 

I am sorry to disagree with you Kat but she would not have been a very good president, she would have been a great president. 

Yea, I shouldn't have held back. I know we'd still have the respect of most of the world instead of the fear that's increasing now because of our lack of leadership. 

fife

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Clinton is a goof. She was not fantastic in my mind, but infinitely more palatable than Trump. Let's be real about that.

Watch this clip and look at orange gizzard neck stalk Clinton (he's repugnant):

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KD5h50cqJV8

you can call Hillary many things but a goof she is not.  I really do believe that she would have been a great president.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

fife said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Clinton is a goof. She was not fantastic in my mind, but infinitely more palatable than Trump. Let's be real about that.

Watch this clip and look at orange gizzard neck stalk Clinton (he's repugnant):

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KD5h50cqJV8

you can call Hillary many things but a goof she is not.  I really do believe that she would have been a great president.

I stand corrected on my terminology.

She might have been good. Obviously way better than the current moron.

ledvedderman

Hillary is a DEMOCRAT. Bernie is an INDEPENDENT who ran as a DEMOCRAT for access to media and money. Why on earth would the DEMOCRATIC PARTY want an INDEPENDENT as their candidate?!? You never answer this question when presented to you.
After the RNC took on an outsider as their nominee and now President, it's looking like a good idea to not bring in fringe outsiders that pull your platform to an extreme side. 

ledvedderman

On paper, Hillary was the most qualified major party candidate, at the very least, the modern history of the country. Perhaps even longer. 
She has the personality of a hammer though. If you can't connect (Dukakis, Dole, Gore, Kerry, Romney, Clinton), you're screwed. 

Thirty Bills Unpaid

There needs to be a way for countries to consistently identify potential leaders and develop them as such. 

Namesake, wealth and financial backing are not necessarily the greatest attributes in establishing qualified, selfless, and authentic leaders.

mace1229

Kat said:

I hope it's a good read; I'm looking forward to reading it. She's had time to analyze the events. She would have made a very good president, much better than what we have now....a president who divides us worse than we are. 

But when asked "what enemy are you most proud of" in a debate, her answer was the republicans. I hated that answer, not only did she make a point to say republicans are her enemy, but made it known that she was proud to not work and get along with them.
She wasn't going to be any less of a divider than what we have.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

mace1229 said:

Kat said:

I hope it's a good read; I'm looking forward to reading it. She's had time to analyze the events. She would have made a very good president, much better than what we have now....a president who divides us worse than we are. 

But when asked "what enemy are you most proud of" in a debate, her answer was the republicans. I hated that answer, not only did she make a point to say republicans are her enemy, but made it known that she was proud to not work and get along with them.
She wasn't going to be any less of a divider than what we have.

Disagree.

To your point... she may not have bridged the gap that already existed, but people would not take to the streets in violent clashes like you are currently experiencing.

Gern Blansten

I pre-ordered this for my Kindle.  Can't wait to read it.  

Ignorance won this election.  Let's just hope we learn from it.

rgambs

JC29856 said:

“In the past, for reasons I try to explain, I’ve often felt I had to be careful in public, like I was up on a wire without a net. Now I’m letting my guard down.” —Hillary Rodham Clinton, from the introduction of What Happened

For the first time(what about the drunken rage on election night?), Hillary Rodham Clinton reveals what she was thinking (were all wondering) and feeling(robots dont have feelings) during one of the most controversial and unpredictable presidential elections in history(polls had it correct, thou). Now free from the constraints of running(donors), Hillary takes you inside the intense personal experience of becoming the first woman nominated(appointed) for president by a major party(theres only 2) in an election marked by rage, sexism, exhilarating highs and infuriating lows, stranger-than-fiction twists(grab them where?), Russian interference(still no proof), and an opponent who broke all the rules(who cheated?). This is her most personal memoir yet.

In these pages, she describes what it was like to run against Donald Trump(Nazi), the mistakes she made(1,000,000,000 pages long), how she has coped(copious vino) with a shocking and devastating loss(the polls the polls), and how she found the strength(she was thrown in a van) to pick herself back up afterward. With humor(impossible) and candor(also impossible), she tells readers what it took to get back on her feet(helped by 3 men in suits)—the rituals(oh boy dont go there!), relationships(Huma DWS), and reading that got her through, and what the experience has taught her about life(go hiking and run into committee staff). She speaks about the challenges of being a strong woman(shes wobbly) in the public eye(never made those speeches public), the criticism over her voice(we came, we saw, he died, hahahahaha!) , age, and appearance, and the double standard(cant criticize) confronting women in politics.

She lays out how the 2016 election was marked by an unprecedented assault on our democracy by a foreign adversary(say it enough and people will believe it). By analyzing the evidence(her emails and skippys too) and connecting the dots(1+1 billionaires = 2 billionaires), Hillary shows just how dangerous the forces(pepe the frog?) are that shaped the outcome(still havent accepted the outcome of the election), and why Americans need to understand them(were not stupid) to protect our values(bombing brown people 100,000 times) and our democracy(rigged primary) in the future.

The election of 2016 was unprecedented(isnt it unpresedented) and historic. What Happened is the story of that campaign and its aftermath—both a deeply intimate account and a cautionary tale for the nation.

You really enjoyed punching that vote for Trump didn't you?

Kat

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mace1229 said:

Kat said:

I hope it's a good read; I'm looking forward to reading it. She's had time to analyze the events. She would have made a very good president, much better than what we have now....a president who divides us worse than we are. 

But when asked "what enemy are you most proud of" in a debate, her answer was the republicans. I hated that answer, not only did she make a point to say republicans are her enemy, but made it known that she was proud to not work and get along with them.
She wasn't going to be any less of a divider than what we have.

Disagree.

To your point... she may not have bridged the gap that already existed, but people would not take to the streets in violent clashes like you are currently experiencing.

And she was known for reaching across the aisle a lot as a Senator. Not every answer is a great answer in the heat of a debate. I tend to watch what people do more than what they say under stress. I feel that she's not usually a relaxed person but I love her anyway in spite of that. 

JimmyV

Keep cashing them checks I guess. I don't think the world really needs another Hillary Clinton book, and I doubt very much she is going to be any more open and honest here than she's ever been in the past. That's not because she is a liar, but it is because she is a lifelong politician. But hey, if some publisher is willing to pay and there's an audience for it, have at it.

Hillary was a deeply flawed candidate who secured the nomination of her party via an even more flawed process that began (and arguably ended) long before the Iowa caucuses. She would undoubtedly have made a better President than Donald Trump but so too would almost anyone else. That isn't the bar for being a great or even good President.

brianlux

^^^ I agree with everything Jimmy said.

The last presidential election was a mess.  We had no one who truly inspired with leadership potential and because of that added up  enough protest votes such that we ended up electing a clown.  And if you are not a strong enough candidate to beat a clown in an election, you are probably not going to make a good (let alone a great) president.

Please, America, give us better choices in 2020!

HughFreakingDillon

JimmyV said:

Keep cashing them checks I guess. I don't think the world really needs another Hillary Clinton book, and I doubt very much she is going to be any more open and honest here than she's ever been in the past. That's not because she is a liar, but it is because she is a lifelong politician. But hey, if some publisher is willing to pay and there's an audience for it, have at it.

Hillary was a deeply flawed candidate who secured the nomination of her party via an even more flawed process that began (and arguably ended) long before the Iowa caucuses. She would undoubtedly have made a better President than Donald Trump but so too would almost anyone else. That isn't the bar for being a great or even good President.

she might be more honest now knowing that her political run is over. 

brianlux

HughFreakingDillon said:

JimmyV said:

Keep cashing them checks I guess. I don't think the world really needs another Hillary Clinton book, and I doubt very much she is going to be any more open and honest here than she's ever been in the past. That's not because she is a liar, but it is because she is a lifelong politician. But hey, if some publisher is willing to pay and there's an audience for it, have at it.

Hillary was a deeply flawed candidate who secured the nomination of her party via an even more flawed process that began (and arguably ended) long before the Iowa caucuses. She would undoubtedly have made a better President than Donald Trump but so too would almost anyone else. That isn't the bar for being a great or even good President.

she might be more honest now knowing that her political run is over. 

Is it?

HughFreakingDillon

brianlux said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JimmyV said:

Keep cashing them checks I guess. I don't think the world really needs another Hillary Clinton book, and I doubt very much she is going to be any more open and honest here than she's ever been in the past. That's not because she is a liar, but it is because she is a lifelong politician. But hey, if some publisher is willing to pay and there's an audience for it, have at it.

Hillary was a deeply flawed candidate who secured the nomination of her party via an even more flawed process that began (and arguably ended) long before the Iowa caucuses. She would undoubtedly have made a better President than Donald Trump but so too would almost anyone else. That isn't the bar for being a great or even good President.

she might be more honest now knowing that her political run is over. 

Is it?

two failed presidential bids in a row? I'd say it is. now she's just going to cash in on the speech circuit to fund Chelsea's run for Senate. LOL