Hillary Clinton: What happened

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JC29856
JC29856 Posts: 9,617
edited August 2017 in A Moving Train
Hillary has a new book coming out about her 2016 campaign and electron loss to trump. Some early excerpts are being pre released as America still wants to know what happened? 
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    This happened..

    From:huma@hrcoffice.com
    To: robbymook2015@gmail.com, john.podesta@gmail.com 
    Date: 2015-02-12 13:16 Subject: DWS

    Below is readout from the call with DWS this am. Separately, Nutter just called me to thank HRC for being a sounding board. He and Rendell will be co-chairs of the convention committee and David Cohen will be Senior Advisor to the convention and lead up fundraising.

    DWS: wanted to choose the city that was best prepared. Spoke with POTUS last night. Focused on logistics and money and the delegate has the best experience possible, Philadelphia was the strong leader. Wasn't even a close call. HRC: I know the last visit you had there, they had more $$ in the bank then expected DWS: They really did. Nutter called last night & mentioned another $1 million cash on hand. It really was about the delegate experience though and . No convention center, midtown manhattan, etc. Columbus was also very spread out. This is the setup that we want our delegates to have. HRC: do you have to tell BdB and Coleman? DWS: I do. HRC: Important to say you went over all this with the president. DWS: yes, met last night. Honestly, Philly was the most put together, best proposal by far, etc. HRC: capacity to raise the money? DWS: oh yes. Sat for an hour with David Cohen who will take a title with the host committee, benchmark fundraising will now be in the contract. I met with each mayor at the DNC and was firm about the money. HRC: who are you putting in charge of the convention? DWS: need to hire a CEO. Will run a process and determine that. If you have candidates that are good to look at, let me know and we'll be sure to let you know. HRC: congratulations on the process. If we plan it right, all the great, historical sites of Philadelphia will be great for us DWS: agreed, liberty bell, etc. It's great. Second thing, I've seen an uptick of negative stories about you in the press, I will gladly speak on your behalf. HRC: thank you. Biding my time for now and thank you for the offer. Who should we talk to about this? DWS: Tracey.


  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    then this....

    DWS call

    From:huma@hrcoffice.com
    To: Charlie.Baker@deweysquare.com, john.podesta@gmail.com, robbymook2015@gmail.com 
    Date: 2015-03-27 20:10 Subject: DWS call
    I just got a heads up call that Leah Daughtry has been selected as convention ceo. DWS wants to tell HRC personally and they are speaking shortly. They asked us not to share fyi.

  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    then this...

    The 2016 presidential campaign of Hillary Rodham Clinton was announced in a YouTube video, on April 12, 2015.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_presidential_campaign,_2016

  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Bern-stupid. Still holding out for lock her up? I can't wait for your posts of excerpts of her book.
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  • JC29856
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    Bern-stupid. Still holding out for lock her up? I can't wait for your posts of excerpts of her book.
    If you haven't been paying attention, I'm a big proponent of innocent until proof of intent
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,361
    JC29856 said:
    then this...

    The 2016 presidential campaign of Hillary Rodham Clinton was announced in a YouTube video, on April 12, 2015.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_presidential_campaign,_2016

    I honestly don't know what your point is. Is there a single person who belongs to (or even knows about the existence of) the DNC that don't know that from the get-go, Clinton was preferred by party officials? This isn't news - it's been assumed and/or known for at least two years.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    CaJC29856 said:
    Bern-stupid. Still holding out for lock her up? I can't wait for your posts of excerpts of her book.
    If you haven't been paying attention, I'm a big proponent of innocent until proof of intent
    care to enumerate the "intent?"
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    benjs said:
    JC29856 said:
    then this...

    The 2016 presidential campaign of Hillary Rodham Clinton was announced in a YouTube video, on April 12, 2015.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_presidential_campaign,_2016

    I honestly don't know what your point is. Is there a single person who belongs to (or even knows about the existence of) the DNC that don't know that from the get-go, Clinton was preferred by party officials? This isn't news - it's been assumed and/or known for at least two years.
    Some are okay with being cheated, some are not.
    Maybe you haven"t read Section 4 of the DNC by-laws?
    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2989759-Impartiality-Clause-DNC-Charter-Bylaws-Art-5-Sec-4.html


  • Clinton is a goof. She was not fantastic in my mind, but infinitely more palatable than Trump. Let's be real about that.

    Watch this clip and look at orange gizzard neck stalk Clinton (he's repugnant):

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KD5h50cqJV8
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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,956
    I hope it's a good read; I'm looking forward to reading it. She's had time to analyze the events. :) She would have made a very good president, much better than what we have now....a president who divides us worse than we are. 

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  • JC29856
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    “In the past, for reasons I try to explain, I’ve often felt I had to be careful in public, like I was up on a wire without a net. Now I’m letting my guard down.” —Hillary Rodham Clinton, from the introduction of What Happened

    For the first time(what about the drunken rage on election night?), Hillary Rodham Clinton reveals what she was thinking (were all wondering) and feeling(robots dont have feelings) during one of the most controversial and unpredictable presidential elections in history(polls had it correct, thou). Now free from the constraints of running(donors), Hillary takes you inside the intense personal experience of becoming the first woman nominated(appointed) for president by a major party(theres only 2) in an election marked by rage, sexism, exhilarating highs and infuriating lows, stranger-than-fiction twists(grab them where?), Russian interference(still no proof), and an opponent who broke all the rules(who cheated?). This is her most personal memoir yet.

    In these pages, she describes what it was like to run against Donald Trump(Nazi), the mistakes she made(1,000,000,000 pages long), how she has coped(copious vino) with a shocking and devastating loss(the polls the polls), and how she found the strength(she was thrown in a van) to pick herself back up afterward. With humor(impossible) and candor(also impossible), she tells readers what it took to get back on her feet(helped by 3 men in suits)—the rituals(oh boy dont go there!), relationships(Huma DWS), and reading that got her through, and what the experience has taught her about life(go hiking and run into committee staff). She speaks about the challenges of being a strong woman(shes wobbly) in the public eye(never made those speeches public), the criticism over her voice(we came, we saw, he died, hahahahaha!) , age, and appearance, and the double standard(cant criticize) confronting women in politics.

    She lays out how the 2016 election was marked by an unprecedented assault on our democracy by a foreign adversary(say it enough and people will believe it). By analyzing the evidence(her emails and skippys too) and connecting the dots(1+1 billionaires = 2 billionaires), Hillary shows just how dangerous the forces(pepe the frog?) are that shaped the outcome(still havent accepted the outcome of the election), and why Americans need to understand them(were not stupid) to protect our values(bombing brown people 100,000 times) and our democracy(rigged primary) in the future.

    The election of 2016 was unprecedented(isnt it unpresedented) and historic. What Happened is the story of that campaign and its aftermath—both a deeply intimate account and a cautionary tale for the nation.
  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    Kat said:
    I hope it's a good read; I'm looking forward to reading it. She's had time to analyze the events. :) She would have made a very good president, much better than what we have now....a president who divides us worse than we are. 

    I am sorry to disagree with you Kat but she would not have been a very good president, she would have been a great president. 
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,361
    JC29856 said:
    benjs said:
    JC29856 said:
    then this...

    The 2016 presidential campaign of Hillary Rodham Clinton was announced in a YouTube video, on April 12, 2015.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_presidential_campaign,_2016

    I honestly don't know what your point is. Is there a single person who belongs to (or even knows about the existence of) the DNC that don't know that from the get-go, Clinton was preferred by party officials? This isn't news - it's been assumed and/or known for at least two years.
    Some are okay with being cheated, some are not.
    Maybe you haven"t read Section 4 of the DNC by-laws?
    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2989759-Impartiality-Clause-DNC-Charter-Bylaws-Art-5-Sec-4.html


    "Cheated"? DNC by-laws are not laws - they are regulations within the Party. 

    In the short-term future, there are two highly probable situations: first, the proportion of stupid/complacent/disengaged/naive/gullible/powerless (which ever term you feel best fits) in America will remain nearly equivalent to today at best. Second, the proportion of cunning/deceptive/opportunists in politics will remain nearly equivalent to today at best (and I suspect this will grow, not shrink, as the RNC has shown that if your lies become bolder - regardless of its transparency - your electability will increase). 

    There are two groups with the power to change the behaviour of the DNC: the politicians in it, and the voters. Do you refute my premise above, and feel that the politicians will grow more honest and/or the people will become powerful? 

    People here have called you a Leninist, but I don't think you are - I think you have pure intentions, but an impossibly high standard of ethics from a group of persons (politicians) who are bound to none. You are asking humans with power to stop being greedy - you are asking humans to stop being what they have been for their entire existence. I thought I was an idealist with my head in the clouds, but what you envision has no basis in reality. 
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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,956
    fife said:
    Kat said:
    I hope it's a good read; I'm looking forward to reading it. She's had time to analyze the events. :) She would have made a very good president, much better than what we have now....a president who divides us worse than we are. 

    I am sorry to disagree with you Kat but she would not have been a very good president, she would have been a great president. 
    Yea, I shouldn't have held back. :) I know we'd still have the respect of most of the world instead of the fear that's increasing now because of our lack of leadership. 
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  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    Clinton is a goof. She was not fantastic in my mind, but infinitely more palatable than Trump. Let's be real about that.

    Watch this clip and look at orange gizzard neck stalk Clinton (he's repugnant):

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KD5h50cqJV8
    you can call Hillary many things but a goof she is not.  I really do believe that she would have been a great president.
  • fife said:
    Clinton is a goof. She was not fantastic in my mind, but infinitely more palatable than Trump. Let's be real about that.

    Watch this clip and look at orange gizzard neck stalk Clinton (he's repugnant):

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KD5h50cqJV8
    you can call Hillary many things but a goof she is not.  I really do believe that she would have been a great president.
    I stand corrected on my terminology.

    She might have been good. Obviously way better than the current moron.
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Hillary is a DEMOCRAT. Bernie is an INDEPENDENT who ran as a DEMOCRAT for access to media and money. Why on earth would the DEMOCRATIC PARTY want an INDEPENDENT as their candidate?!? You never answer this question when presented to you.
    After the RNC took on an outsider as their nominee and now President, it's looking like a good idea to not bring in fringe outsiders that pull your platform to an extreme side. 
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    On paper, Hillary was the most qualified major party candidate, at the very least, the modern history of the country. Perhaps even longer. 
    She has the personality of a hammer though. If you can't connect (Dukakis, Dole, Gore, Kerry, Romney, Clinton), you're screwed. 
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    edited August 2017
    There needs to be a way for countries to consistently identify potential leaders and develop them as such. 

    Namesake, wealth and financial backing are not necessarily the greatest attributes in establishing qualified, selfless, and authentic leaders.
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